***ARNOLD IS AGAINST GUN CONTROL***(Playboy Interview: "The running man")

Playboy ^ | Aug, 2003 | Playboy Interview

[FairOpinion]

ON GUN CONTROL: PLAYBOY: Although your movies have plenty of gore, they don't have much sex. And your character rarely has a love interest. Is that deliberate?

SCHWARZENEGGER: I have a love interest in every one of my films -- a gun. [Laughs] It doesn't always have to be a woman. That's boring. Besides, you have to understand: In most action movies, women are in the way.

PLAYBOY: What about the kinds of characters you play -- terminators, eliminators, commandos? Do you think the message they send is that violence is heroic?

SCHWARZENEGGER: No, because the bad guys do worse. My characters just defend themselves. The message that is sent is to be strong and to be smart and to rely on yourself to get out of danger, to save your own life.

Look, you've had assassinations before now. Presidents were shot before Reagan and Kennedy, before there was television or radio. You can't say what puts a crazy idea in a crazy mind. It's easy to blame a movie rather than to blame yourself. Which is what parents are doing.

Another thing about these reports that come out: They can be interpreted how you want. Many movies reflect what is happening in society and are taken from real stories. Maybe showing that is helpful, because it makes people know what can happen to them if they kill someone.

But the newspapers and news media are much more sensational. There was violence on the California freeways before, but now everyone's doing a story on it.

PLAYBOY: So you think the press is at fault?

SCHWARZENEGGER: In the case of the California freeway killers, I think the big mistake is that people keep guns in their glove compartments. The deal with that is, when you have a permit, you're always supposed to keep your ammunition and your gun separate, so if you get emotional, by the time you get your gun from the glove compartment and your ammunition out of your trunk, you have a chance to cool down.

But the bad thing about all this is that it makes people think that we have to eliminate guns.

PLAYBOY: And you don't think so?

SCHWARZENEGGER: Outlawing guns is not the right method of eliminating the problem. If you outlaw guns, people will still have them illegally. In Europe, they're outlawed everywhere. They have very strict gun control in Italy. Yet the Pope was shot. They have very strict gun control in Germany. Yet you see pimps shooting one another. Politicians have been shot in Sweden and Holland, where guns are outlawed.

I don't know how you handle this. I'm no expert.

[FairOpinion]

SCHWARZENEGGER: Outlawing guns is not the right method of eliminating the problem. If you outlaw guns, people will still have them illegally. In Europe, they're outlawed everywhere. They have very strict gun control in Italy. Yet the Pope was shot. They have very strict gun control in Germany. Yet you see pimps shooting one another. Politicians have been shot in Sweden and Holland, where guns are outlawed.

[Russell Scott]

Arnold never won an award for his acting. And so far he hasn't shown me anything to reward him with one of the biggest prizes in politics, especially his first time out. Tom McClintock has been fighting in the trenches for Californians for 20 years, and has earned the right to be Governor. While Tom was working his tail off for Californians, Arnold was off playing with toy guns, makeup artists, cigars, Humvees, and who knows what else, "for the children" of course, and getting paid huge sums of money to do it. At the same time, Tom toiled in the trenches of California, often with much opposition, on a meager public servant's salary. Sorry Arnie, but you are no Tom McClintock, and have a long way to go before you can even polish Tom's shoes. And tell Buffet to go back to the Land of Oz, and take his good friend, wicked witch Hillary, with him. We Californians have been burned long enough by political illusions.

[FairOpinion]

Is that all you can say, repeat the same post over and over and over again, regardless of the topic of the discussion?

[nickcarraway]

This contradicts what's he's said elsewhere.

[FairOpinion]

Ping

SCHWARZENEGGER: Outlawing guns is not the right method of eliminating the problem. If you outlaw guns, people will still have them illegally. In Europe, they're outlawed everywhere. They have very strict gun control in Italy. Yet the Pope was shot. They have very strict gun control in Germany. Yet you see pimps shooting one another. Politicians have been shot in Sweden and Holland, where guns are outlawed.

[nopardons]

You've been a memeber of FR long enough to know that what you're doing ( posting the same reply, to many threads ) is considered to be spaming, NOT looked favorably upon, and is proof that one has nothing much of value to add to the discussion.

[Roscoe]

"Gun controls should be stiffer." --Arnold Schwarzenegger

[FairOpinion]

This appears in the Aug. 2003 issue of Playboy, but the fine print says the article is excerpts from an interview from 1988 -- way before he had any thought of running for office. So these are his real opinions, not just something to say "win over conservatives".

http://www.playboy.com/features/features/arnold/

[xm177e2]

***ARNOLD IS AGAINST GUN CONTROL***

No, Arnold is against a complete gun ban.

And he has the friggin' nerve to say this:

In the case of the California freeway killers, I think the big mistake is that people keep guns in their glove compartments. The deal with that is, when you have a permit, you're always supposed to keep your ammunition and your gun separate, so if you get emotional, by the time you get your gun from the glove compartment and your ammunition out of your trunk, you have a chance to cool down.

Did the freeway killers have gun permits? I doubt it.

Have people in a situation like this with gun permits ever done what these killers have done?

[nickcarraway]

Oh, here is the disclosure. these were statements from 1988, when his opinions were far different from what they are now. His recent statements have been in favor of gun control. If the only thing matters is if he wins, why do his opinions matter at all? A vote for anyone but Arnold is a vote for Busttamente anyway, right? So who cares if he believes in socialized medicine or tripling taxes?

[FairOpinion]

"Gun controls should be stiffer." --Arnold Schwarzenegger
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That is probably taken out of context, or he wasn't asked or allowed to clarify.

Similar to a statement in an interview for Cigar Aficionado, where he expressed the government's responsibility to help the unfortunates, but all he means is those totally disabled, not the way the liberals mean it:

"Exposure to the Kennedys has even led him to moderate some of his "extreme" conservative views, Schwarzenegger says. He's now willing to acknowledge that "government has a responsibility...to provide things for the underdog."

But the only "underdogs" he cites as worthy of government assistance are people in wheelchairs--no mention of the government's obligation to help those who are poor, homeless, jobless and/or the victims of discrimination--and he's quick to say that he's still "a very strong Republican."

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People_Profile/0,2540,25,00.html

[nickcarraway]

How do you know what he believes? How do you know that all his inconvenient quotes are taken out of context? Are you a mind reader? It's so strange to me that you spend every waking post trying to push Schwarzenegger on people, even though we haven't even heard his opinions on the issues yet. Isn't it reasonable for him to win over the voters, instead of havinf a bunch of acolytes attrition us into voting for him? I haven't made up my mind how I'm going to vote in this election, but I intend to use my mind in the decision, not just base it on peer pressure. Why bother to have elections, otherwise? Personally, I don't think you are helping Schwarzenegger's chances, I think you are hurting. People don't like to be bullied about this sort of thing.

[Roscoe]

And for Republicans to the actor's right politically, the moderate Schwarzenegger could be a target for his social views. He has described himself as "very liberal" on social issues," noting that he favors legalized abortion, gay adoptions and "sensible gun controls," including a ban on assault weapons.

By ERICA WERNER
Associated Press Writer
August 7, 2003

[FairOpinion]

Who's bullying?

"We report, you decide".

[TERMINATTOR]

"Gun controls should be stiffer." -Arnold Schwarzenegger

"But in reality, I'm for gun control."

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Back during the campaign when Gray Davis was elected, we had these interminable arguments here about the Republican candidate and his stance on the Second. I can't even remember the guy's name now, but some Freepers dug up some statements he'd made against the ownership of AR-15s and used those quotes to call him a RINO and a gungrabber. This is back in the days before moderators, and the threads would go on and on viciously, with both sides settling in behind their barricades every night. The result was that any cohesive support FR could offer the GOP candidate was lost in a welter of bitterness.

I'm really hoping that some of our RKBA compadres here will learn from that prior episode of negativity and nihilism and realise that, in politics, you have to work with what you've got. The question is not whether Arnold is as pro-gun as we'd like- it's whether Electable Arnold is more pro-gun, than the alternative.

[George W. Bush]

Playboy is using an old interview to help 'sanitize' Arnie with the gunowners. Obviously, Playboy wants to help him get elected, a little suspicious in and of itself.

Personally, if Arnie stands by this interview and confirms it with some unambiguous statements about gun rights, he can probably be given a pass on the few stupid remarks he's made since.

If you look far enough for enough quotes, almost anyone entertains a few conflicting opinions over the course of time.

But merely because he said this in the Eighties doesn't mean he now gets a pass. He needs to say it again, now, publicly and unambiguously. Until then, he's still suspect because he's made other remarks since then against gun rights.

[goldstategop]

You can be sure The Doofus, DiFi, Babs and Large Breasts will demand to know why he is NOT for making it even tougher to own a gun.

[NittanyLion]

On what date was this interview conducted? I can't get to the source here at work.

[TeleStraightShooter]

The deal with that is, when you have a permit, you're always supposed to keep your ammunition and your gun separate, so if you get emotional, by the time you get your gun from the glove compartment and your ammunition out of your trunk, you have a chance to cool down.
???
not in CA...

I understand Arnold travels around alot, perhaps he's thinking of 3rd world country? france, nyc, chicago?