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I said this yesterday on a number of Threads and Rush is saying it today.........................

What a golden opportunity for Bush
to slam the Demon-cratic leftist-greenie-ELF-envirowacko--obstructionists who think we are going to "conserve our way out of an energy crisis".



Oh yea, the new tone in Washington, and all that crap.

More Windmills, anyone?

1 posted on 08/15/2003 9:37:43 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: DoctorMichael
Thanks for posting this.

By the time we really do have to face running out, we should have a much better grasp of chemistry and possess the capacity to synthesize and use more efficient energy sources anyway.
2 posted on 08/15/2003 9:40:20 AM PDT by ChemistCat (It's National I'm Being Discriminated Against By Someone Day.)
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To: DoctorMichael
He doesn't even include the immense amount of coal reserves. Hitler converted coal to oil at about $100/barrel. I beleive that current tech can do it at $75/barrel. By the time the energy sources listed above run out, we will probably be looking at being able to convert coal to oil at a viable price.
3 posted on 08/15/2003 9:43:02 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: farmfriend
PING
6 posted on 08/15/2003 9:49:28 AM PDT by uglybiker (I think I drink more beer than anything. Ever try to drink a case of Cokes?)
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To: DoctorMichael
Last week I saw a show on TV called "1900 House". In it a family was living in an old house just like they used to live in 1900. It was amazing how hard life was without electricity and oil. For example, in 1900, it used to take three days every week for the wife to do the laundry for the family.
8 posted on 08/15/2003 9:53:13 AM PDT by mjp
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To: DoctorMichael
Good article. Thanks for posting.
26 posted on 08/15/2003 11:06:09 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: DoctorMichael
Does this mean I don't have to trade my SUV for a hybrid?
27 posted on 08/15/2003 11:12:12 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: DoctorMichael; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ..
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

31 posted on 08/15/2003 11:33:27 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: DoctorMichael
It is hard to imagine how our grandparents and great-grandparents lived at the end of the 19th century. The United States was still largely a rural society, and the amenities we take for granted today were unknown then.

Most people lived on farms. Few Americans had running water, bathtubs, hot water, or flush toilets. Central heating, electricity and telephones were rare. There were no antibiotics. Infant mortality was high, and life expectancy was 30 years lower than it is today. For most people, educational opportunities were very limited. In 1890, only 5 percent of the eligible population attended high school.

Hell, some of my great-granparents, lived in a cave in Sperlinga, Sicily. That's right, I can prove I'm descended from cavemen, nothing to do with the theory of evolution one way or the other.

A caveman is a man who lives in a cave, nothing more nothing less. No stuff and nonsense about being sub-human or less evolved. Just poverty. But they came to America.

39 posted on 08/15/2003 12:03:22 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: DoctorMichael
The seminal event that transformed the United States into an industrial and technological powerhouse occurred on the morning of Jan. 10, 1901, near Beaumont, Texas.
Black gold! Welcome to "The Golden Triangle"!
47 posted on 08/15/2003 6:38:15 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: DoctorMichael
bump
49 posted on 08/15/2003 6:53:03 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: DoctorMichael

I read an amazing article about the latest upgrade in biomass conversion. This is dull stuff except that the newest generation technology brings the cost of converting sewage, municipal garbage, industrial and agricultural waste -- to oil down to $15@barrel. They do it by imitating and accelerating the process in the earth that by heat and pressure breaks down carbon compounds and converts any carbon based substance to oil. They say with some tweaking and economies of scale--they can do it for $8-12@barrel. According to the article, agriculture wastes alone would produce 4 billion barrels of oil annually. The US imported 4.2 billion barrels of oil in 2001. Put these biomass converters around every city in the US and then use the oil make electricity and voilla--you have a distributed power generation network.

Sound too good to be true? Read the article and look at the people and agencies in the government, business and scientific establishment who have put their names behind it.
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/940151.asp?0sl=-42
Here's a couple more articles on the same subject
http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030717/energy_garbage_1.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Air/2003/Burn-Turkey-Waste-Energy16may03.htm
This is the company website
http://www.changingworldtech.com/techfr.htm
Here's a press release from the website:
West Hempstead, NY, April 8, 2003 – Changing World Technologies, Inc. announces the first commercially successful application of thermal technology to convert organic waste into clean energy. Building on scientific research dating to the 1920s and human history extending from the Stone Age, CWT has patented, tested and deployed a technological process that has been awarded $12 million in grants from the US government and produced a joint venture with ConAgra Foods, Inc.

Utilizing low-value waste by-products such as tires, plastics, municipal sewage sludge, paper, animal and agricultural refuse as feedstocks, CWT's thermal technology provides a commercially viable solution for some of the earth’s gravest environmental challenges, including arresting global warming by reducing the use of fossil fuels, and reforming organic waste into a high-value resource. In addition, it has the potential to substantially reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil.

“If the process works as well as its creators claim, not only would most toxic waste problems become history, so would imported oil,” says Discover magazine, which features a full-length article on CWT's thermal process in the May 2003 issue.

“From the point of view of pollution and the point of view of energy production, this is a remarkable story. This technology offers all of us an opportunity someday to have a more peaceful and a freer world, a world that is not dependent on turbulence and chaos,” said R. James Woolsey, former Director of the US Central Intelligence Agency and a senior advisor to CWT.

Cornerstone Technology
Where earlier attempts at thermal conversion failed, CWT’s thermal process succeeds in breaking down long chains of organic polymers into their smallest units and reforming them into new combinations to produce clean solid, liquid and gaseous alternative fuels and specialty chemicals.

The conversion process emulates the earth’s natural geothermal activity, whereby organic material is converted into fossil fuel under conditions of extreme heat and pressure over millions of years. The cornerstone technology, called Thermal Depolymerization Process or TDP, mimics the earth’s system by using pipes and controlling temperature and pressure to reduce the bio-remediation process from millions of years to mere hours.

The process entails five steps:
(1) Pulping and slurrying the organic feed with water.
(2) Heating the slurry under pressure to the desired temperature.
(3) Flashing the slurry to a lower pressure to separate the mixture.
(4) Heating the slurry again (coking) to drive off water and produce light hydrocarbons.
(5) Separating the end products.

TDP is 85% energy efficient. The process has very low Btu requirements, due to the short residence times of materials at each stage and to the holding of water under pressure.
In addition, it generates its own energy, utilizes recycled water throughout, and uses the steam naturally created by the process to heat incoming feedstock, thereby recapturing expended energy. In addition, TDP produces no uncontrollable emissions and no secondary hazardous waste streams.

"This is not an incremental change. This is a big, new step," said Alf Andreassen, a principal of Paladin Capital Group and former Technical Advisor for Naval Warfare and Science Advisor to President George Bush. "In Europe, there are mountains of bones piling up" due to new

regulations for handling bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease, he says. "When recycling waste into feed stops in this country, it will change everything."

Plant Commercialization
To test and refine the technology, CWT established a Research & Development plant at the Philadelphia (Pennsylvania) Naval Yard in partnership with the Gas Research Institute, which opened in December 1999. There the company successfully applied its thermal conversion process to a range of feedstocks, including animal waste, tires, mixed plastics and paper.

“This project and the work that Changing World Technologies is doing in Philadelphia will revolutionize the way we deal with waste products on a broad commercial scale, the production of energy, and the reduction or elimination of waste by-products which enhances economic development… improving air quality, our quality of life as well as our environment,” says Denise Chamberlain, former Deputy Secretary for Air, Recycling & Radiation Protection for the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection.

"The Environmental Protection Agency doesn't even consider us waste handlers. We are permitted as manufacturers. Our process has undergone the scrutiny of an Environmental Assessment under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and received a Finding of No Significant Impact, or FONSI,” said Brian Appel, CWT Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "This process changes the whole industrial equation. Waste goes from a cost to a profit."

ConAgra Foods was one of the first enterprises to express early interest in the commercial application of CWT's thermal process. A joint venture between the companies was entered into in December 2000 for the first commercial application of the technology for the conversion of poultry offal at one of ConAgra's large Butterball Turkey plants. When it is commissioned later this month, the $20 million facility in Carthage, Missouri -- funded in part by a $5 million
grant from the US Environmental Protection Agency -- will process 200 tons per day of fats, bones, feathers, grease and oils.

“If the technology is successful, it could offer enormous opportunities to address farm waste problems in the Midwest. It could be applied to all sorts of other wastes. This looks extremely positive,” said William Rice, EPA Acting Regional Administrator.

According to Howard Buffett, who represents ConAgra's investment, "We've got a lot of confidence in this… We wouldn't be doing this if we didn't anticipate success."

“This is a remarkable opportunity to use new technology to turn a troublesome liability – waste – into a valuable asset – renewable energy,” said Senator Christopher (Kit) Bond of Missouri, when construction of the Carthage plant first began.

About CWT
Mr. Appel, formerly a principal of Atlantis International and Ticket World USA, has assembled a team of high level scientists, technologists and former government officials to lead the commercialization of CWT’s thermal process and related technologies. They include Alan L. Libshutz, President & Chief Operating Officer, a former Managing Director of the energy and finance groups at Salomon Brothers, Merrill Lynch and Bear Stearns; Franklin D. Kramer, Executive Vice President, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs; Terry N. Adams, Ph.D., Chief Technology Officer, a specialist in heat transfer, fluid flow and combustion and a former Technical Advisor to Weyerhaeuser R&D; James H. Freiss, PE, Vice President of Engineering, an agricultural engineer who was previously Director of Environmental Affairs for ContiGroup Companies, Inc.; and William Lange, Director of Engineering, an accomplished electromechanical, mechanical, electronics circuitry, and electromagnetic design specialist.


CWT is a holding company dedicated to identifying emerging technologies that address specific energy and environmental needs, and then developing them into viable business opportunities. It is currently commercializing its patented thermal technology, which converts hydrocarbons and organic materials into clean fuels and specialty chemicals. Founded in 1997, CWT’s subsidiaries and affiliated companies include Resource Recovery Corporation, Inc.; Thermo- Depolymerization Process, LLC; and Renewable Environmental Solutions, LLC, a joint venture with ConAgra Foods, Inc. established as the exclusive vehicle to apply CWT’s processes in the global agricultural sector.

For more information, visit CWT at www.changingworldtech.com or call (516) 486-0100.

Contact:
Julie Gross Gelfand
CWT Press Office
(516) 536-7258
jgelfand@hldcreative.com

50 posted on 08/15/2003 7:08:27 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: DoctorMichael
"In 1890, only 5 percent of the eligible population attended high school."

And yet, the average American at that time was twice as literate as the average BA grad is today!

Great article, thanks!

57 posted on 08/17/2003 6:01:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: DoctorMichael
bump
64 posted on 08/17/2003 8:01:59 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: DoctorMichael
Oil is by far the cheapest, most abundant, and cleanest source of energy we have.

And were it not for artificially high regulatory costs, nuclear energy would also be up there at the top for cheapest, most abundant, and cleanest. A greater reliance on nuclear would free up gas and oil for uses other than energy.
68 posted on 08/18/2003 4:15:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: DoctorMichael
Since there is so much oil, and we just took Iraq in war, why is not gas 65. cents a gallon. And this week it just keeps going up again.
77 posted on 08/18/2003 12:36:11 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: DoctorMichael
Yes we need more windmills, lots more windmills.
82 posted on 08/18/2003 12:45:19 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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