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To: D. Brian Carter
Amen! Someone made a good point awhile back about Joe. The ban was for life--his life is over so let him in. I know it might seem hollow, him being dead and all. But if the evidence means anything he did nothing to throw that Series.
4 posted on 08/12/2003 7:32:06 AM PDT by Ray Kinsella
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To: Ray Kinsella
I was actually being sarcastic... Pete Rose deserves at least the Shoeless Joe treatment, IMHO.
5 posted on 08/12/2003 7:33:00 AM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: Ray Kinsella
But if you're interested, go here: Shoeless Joe Jackson's Virtual Hall of Fame.
8 posted on 08/12/2003 7:34:01 AM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: Ray Kinsella
Not meaning to be contentious ... but Joe Jackson played left field for the White Sox. If I'm not mistaken ... this info comes from a Bill James Baseball Abstract that I have packed away ... there were two triples hit to left field by the Cincinnati Reds in key situations during the 1919 World Series. In normal circumstances, it is hard ... very hard ... to hit a triple to left field.

In this Abstract piece, James gave a very detailed account, with supporting evidence and documentation, of why Jackson was guilty. The thing about the triples was one of the reasons.

Personally, I think Joe Jackson probably should get a break after all these years ... especially if they let Rose back in. I've always figured that Joe Jackson, who had the intelligence of a retarded amoeba, got taken advantage of in a lot of ways, although bottom line one must take responsibility for his actions.

I just don't think it's accurate to say that he did nothing to throw that series, and if I can find which issue of the Abstract that piece by James is in I'll at least cite the year, there's no way I'm going to type in a three-page article.

24 posted on 08/12/2003 7:45:17 AM PDT by GB
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