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AL GORE DELIVERS REMARKS AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY ON PRESIDENT BUSH'S IRAQ POLICY
DrudgeReport.com ^ | 8-7-03

Posted on 08/07/2003 8:55:56 AM PDT by Paul Atreides

Thu Aug 07 2003 11:48:22 ET Thank you. It's great to be here and I appreciate your presence. Thank you so much for being here and for what you do on a regular basis.

OK.

I want to especially thank MoveOn.org for sponsoring this event and NYU for letting us use this beautiful facility and the NYU College Democrats for co-hosting it, cosponsoring it. I appreciate it very much.

Thank you, Michael Phillips (ph) and Eli Pariser (ph). A special thanks to my former colleague John Brademas (ph). I appreciate your kind words and Tipper and I are delighted to be with you today.

Some of you may remember that the last time I talked formally on the topics that we're here to talk about today was a little less than a year ago in San Francisco, when I argued that the president's case for urgent and unilateral preemptive war in Iraq was less than convincing and needed to be challenged more effectively by the Congress.

In light of developments since then, you might assume that my purpose today is to revisit the manner in which we were led into war, and to some extent that will be the case, but only as part of a larger theme that I feel very strongly needs to be explored on an urgent basis.

The direction in which our nation is being led now is deeply troubling to me, not only in Iraq, but also here at home, on economic policy, social policy and environmental policy.

Millions of Americans now share a feeling that something pretty basic has gone wrong in our country and that some important American values are being placed at risk. And they want to set it right.

The way we went to war in Iraq illustrates this larger problem. Normally, we Americans lay the facts on the table and talk through the choices before us and make a decision. But that didn't really happen with this war, not the way it should have.

And as a result, too many of our soldiers are paying the highest price for the strategic miscalculations, serious misjudgments and historic mistakes that have put them and our nation in harm's way.

I'm convinced that one of the reasons we did not have a better public debate before the Iraq war started is because so many of the impressions that the majority of the country had back then turned out to have been completely wrong.

Now, leaving aside for the moment the question of how these false impressions got into the public's mind, I think it might be healthy to take a hard look at the ones that we now know were wrong and clear the air so we can better see exactly where we are now and what changes might need to be made.

In any case, what we now know to have been false impressions before the war, include the following.

Number one, Saddam Hussein was partly responsible for the attack against us on September 11th, 2001, so a good way to respond to that attack would be to invade his country and forcibly remove him from power.

Number two, Saddam was working closely with Osama bin Laden and was actively supporting members of the Al Qaida terrorist group by giving them weapons and money and bases and training, so launching a war against Iraq would be a good way to stop Al Qaida from attacking us again.

Number three, Saddam was about to give the terrorists poison gas and deadly germs that he had made into weapons which they could use to kill lots of Americans. Therefore, common sense alone seemed to dictate that we should send our military into Iraq in order to protect our loved ones and ourselves against a grave threat.

Number four, Saddam was on the verge of building nuclear bombs and giving them to the terrorists, and since the only thing then preventing Saddam from acquiring a nuclear arsenal was access to enriched uranium, once our spies found out that he had bought the enrichment technology he needed and was actively trying to buy uranium from Africa, it seemed like we had very little time left.

Therefore, it seemed imperative during last fall's election campaign to set aside less urgent issues like the economy, and instead focus on the congressional resolution approving the war in Iraq.

Number five, our GIs would be welcomed with open arms by cheering Iraqis who would help them quickly establish public safety, free markets and representative democracy, so there wouldn't be that much of a risk that U.S. soldiers would get bogged down in a guerrilla war.

Number six, even though the rest of the world was mostly opposed to the war, they would quickly fall in line after we won, and then contribute lots of money and soldiers to help out, so there wouldn't be that much risk that U.S. taxpayers would get stuck with a huge bill.

Now, of course, everybody knows that every single one of these impressions was just dead wrong.

For example, according to the just-released congressional investigation, Saddam had nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks of September 11th. Therefore, whatever other goals it served--and it did serve some other goals--the decision to invade Iraq made no sense as a way of exacting revenge for 9/11.

To the contrary, the U.S. pulled significant intelligence resources out of Pakistan and Afghanistan in order to get ready for the rushed invasion of Iraq, and that disrupted the search for Osama at a critical time. And the indifference that we showed to the rest of the world's opinion in the process undermined the global cooperation we need to win the war against terrorism.

In the same way, the evidence now shows clearly that Saddam did not want to work with Osama bin Laden at all, much less give him weapons of mass destruction, so our invasion of Iraq had no effect on Al Qaida other than to boost their recruiting efforts.

And on the nuclear issue, of course, it turned out that those documents were actually forged by somebody, though we don't know who.

And as for the cheering Iraqi crowds that we anticipated, unfortunately--very unfortunately--that did not pan out either, so now our troops are in an ugly and dangerous situation.

Moreover, the rest of the world certainly is not jumping in to help out very much, the way we expected, so U.S. taxpayers are now having to spend $1 billion every week.

In other words, when you put it all together it was just one mistaken impression after another, lots of them.

And it's not just in foreign policy, because the same thing has been happening in economic policy, where we've also now got another huge and threatening mess on our hands.

I'm convinced one reason we've had so many nasty surprises in our economy is that the country somehow got lots of false impressions about what we could expect from the big tax cuts that were enacted, including: one, the tax cuts would unleash a lot of new investment that would create lots of new jobs; two, we wouldn't have to worry about a return to big budget deficits, because all the new growth in the economy caused by the tax cuts would lead to a lot of new revenue; three, most of the benefits would go to average middle-income families not to the wealthy, as some partisans claimed.

Unfortunately, here, too, every single one of these impressions turned out to be wrong. Instead of creating jobs, for example, we are losing millions of jobs: three years in a row of net losses. That hasn't happened since the Great Depression.

As I've noted before, I was the first one laid off.

And you never forget something like that.

And it turns out that most of the benefits of the tax cuts actually are going to the highest-income Americans, who, unfortunately, are the least likely group to spend money in ways that create jobs during times when the economy is weak and unemployment is rising.

And, of course, the budget deficits are already the biggest ever, with the worst still due to hit us. As a percentage of our economy, we have had bigger deficits, but these are by far the most dangerous we've ever had for two reasons. First, they're not temporary; they're structural and long-term. Second, they're going to get even bigger just at the time when the big baby boomer retirement surge starts. Moreover, the global capital markets have begun to recognize the unprecedented size of this emerging fiscal catastrophe.

In truth, the current executive branch of the U.S. government is radically different from any since the McKinley administration 100 years ago.

The 2001 winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics, George Akerlof, went even further last week in Germany when he told Der Spiegel, and I quote, ``This is the worst government the U.S. has ever had in its more than 200 years of history.''

I didn't say that. That's the winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics.

He said, ``This is not normal policy.'' In describing the impact of the Bush policies on America's future, Akerlof added, quote, ``What we have here is a form of looting,'' end quote. Now again, that's the Nobel Prize winner in economics.

Ominously, the capital markets have just pushed U.S. long-term mortgage rates higher soon after the Federal Reserve Board once again reduced discount rates. Monetary policy loses some of its potency when fiscal policy just comes unglued, and after three years of rate cuts in a row, Alan Greenspan and his colleagues simply don't have much room left for further reductions.

This situation is particularly dangerous for our economy right now for several reasons. First, because home buying, fueled by low rates, along with car buying, also fueled by low rates, have been just about the only reliable engines that have been pulling the economy forward.

Secondly, so many Americans now have variable rate mortgages, so the increases hit people quickly and hard.

And third, it comes at a time when average personal debt is at an all-time record high. A lot of Americans are living on the economic edge.

It seems obvious to me that big and important issues, like the Bush economic policy and the first preemptive war in U.S. history, should have been debate more thoroughly in the Congress and covered more extensively in the news media and better presented to the American people before our nation made such fateful choices. But that didn't happen. And now in both cases, reality is turning out to be very different from the impressions that were given when the votes and the die were cast.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: algore; armchairpresidents; electionpresident; gore; iraq
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1 posted on 08/07/2003 8:55:56 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
There are so many untruths, unsusbstantiated bull, and downright lies in this pile of crap, it is breath-taking. Where did this "revenge for 911" come from? He sounded like a defender of Saddam, for goodness sake. What a maroon!
2 posted on 08/07/2003 9:00:14 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: Paul Atreides
There is an article in my most recent copy of National Review concerning Moveon.com.

I do not think that it is posted on line, but I could be wrong. Moveon.com is an abomination. Anyone who would support that site is obvioulsy subversive, IMHO! Oh, that was Al Gore thanking them, nuff said!
3 posted on 08/07/2003 9:01:05 AM PDT by Radix
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To: Paul Atreides
I very seldom ever go to Drudge. Does he put up the transcripts of the President and other Administration people when they speak? Or this is just for Gore?
4 posted on 08/07/2003 9:01:58 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: austingirl
I think I'll wait for Malkin and Coulter to disect this mess.
5 posted on 08/07/2003 9:03:18 AM PDT by Evil Inc
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To: Paul Atreides
And, of course, whoever wins a Nobel Prize is credible.
6 posted on 08/07/2003 9:03:25 AM PDT by biss5577
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To: Paul Atreides
Someday he'll be asked what he would do to save America.

I can't wait

7 posted on 08/07/2003 9:04:17 AM PDT by chachacha
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To: austingirl
I just reread the article. You certainly pegged it right. Gore is unbelievable. The dems are so completely lost, that there is likely no candidate that they could ever put up that would be a worthy challenge to any true conservative.
8 posted on 08/07/2003 9:05:02 AM PDT by Radix
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To: Paul Atreides
The more we hear Algore pontificate and drone on, the more the people of America realize just how thankful they should be that George W. Bush is the President.
9 posted on 08/07/2003 9:06:09 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Have you thanked God again today that George W. Bush is our President?!)
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To: Paul Atreides
If a tree falls in the forest....
10 posted on 08/07/2003 9:07:30 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: austingirl
"soundslike a defender" He is a defender of Sadam! He and the rest of the anti-American left.
11 posted on 08/07/2003 9:09:08 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (What would Scooby Do?)
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To: PhiKapMom
I think that Drudge puts up whatever is the most outrageous. He might have put up other speeches in the past but, if so, I don't remember them. I do remember that he put up the anti-war/Bush speech, given at the college graduation, by the slimy NYT reporter.
12 posted on 08/07/2003 9:10:02 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Thanks! I think that is great! I was just curious!
13 posted on 08/07/2003 9:11:55 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: Paul Atreides
Wednesday, 28 June, 2000, 00:32 GMT 01:32 UK

BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/809168.stm

Gore: Saddam must go

US Vice-President Al Gore has told Iraqi opposition politicians that the United States remains committed to the overthrow of President Saddam Hussein.

Meeting a delegation from the Iraqi National Congress (INC), he also reiterated the administration's view that the Iraqi leader should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The Clinton administration is trying to beef up the INC after nearly 10 years of sanctions on Iraq have brought the world no closer to bringing down the Iraqi leader.



14 posted on 08/07/2003 9:13:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MichiganCheese
It is truly unnerving that he is so pro-Saddam now, when the administration he was part of, bombed Saddam in 1998. He either has no memory or thinks the public doesn't.
15 posted on 08/07/2003 9:14:31 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: FairOpinion
Yeah, but he didn't mean by a Republican.
16 posted on 08/07/2003 9:14:40 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: austingirl
Let's put it this way: there was a reason why the Unibomber like his book.
17 posted on 08/07/2003 9:15:39 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Hmmmmm....

"I also support the President's stated goals in the next phases of the war against terrorism as he laid them out in the State of the Union. ... Even if we give first priority to the destruction of terrorist networks, and even if we succeed, there are still governments that could bring us great harm. And there is a clear case that one of these governments in particular represents a virulent threat in a class by itself: Iraq. As far as I am concerned, a final reckoning with that government should be on the table."

-Al Gore, in Feb. 12, 2002 speech to Council on Foreign Relations.

Source

Full Transcript of Feb 12, 2002 speech

On May 23,2000 vice president and presidential candidate Al Gore made the following remarks about Iraq:

"We have made it clear that it is our policy to see Saddam Hussein gone. We have sought coalitions of opponents to challenge his power from within or without. I have met with the Iraqi resistance, and I have invited them to meet with me again next month – when I will encourage them to further unite in their efforts against Saddam. We have maintained sanctions in the face of rising criticism, while improving the oil-to-food program to help the Iraqi people directly. We have used force when necessary. And we will not let up in our efforts to free Iraq from Saddam's rule. Should he think of challenging us, I would strongly advise against it. As a Senator, I voted for the use of force. As Vice President, I supported the use of force. And if entrusted with the Presidency, my resolve will never waver. "

Source

And just for grins because I am feeling feisty today...: )

"Gore's Gulf War Vote Hinged on Key TV Slot" by Senator Alan Simpson

18 posted on 08/07/2003 9:17:38 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Paul Atreides
And look what else I found:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924587/posts

Iraq Resumes WMD Activities, New York Times Reports [Carnegie - Jan. 22, 2001]


Press reports that Iraq has rebuilt chemical and biological weapons plants bombed by the United States in late 1998 present newly-inaugurated President George W. Bush with a serious non-proliferation challenge. A New York Times report that Iraq has rebuilt chemical and biological weapons-capable plants at Falluja demonstrates the continued threat posed to regional stability by Saddam Hussein.


The new intelligence estimates were mentioned, but without any such specific details, in a report on weapons threats released on Jan. 10 by the outgoing secretary of defense, William S. Cohen. It warned that Iraq had rebuilt at least its weapons infrastructure and may have begun covertly producing some chemical or biological agents.


19 posted on 08/07/2003 9:21:30 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Paul Atreides
"In light of developments since then, you might assume that my purpose today is to revisit the manner in which we were led into war, and to some extent that will be the case, but only as part of a larger theme that I feel very strongly needs to be explored on an urgent basis.

The direction in which our nation is being led now is deeply troubling to me, not only in Iraq, but also here at home, on economic policy, social policy and environmental policy.

Millions of Americans now share a feeling that something pretty basic has gone wrong in our country and that some important American values are being placed at risk. And they want to set it right.

The way we went to war in Iraq illustrates this larger problem. Normally, we Americans lay the facts on the table and talk through the choices before us and make a decision. But that didn't really happen with this war, not the way it should have. "


Stilted. Stiff. Passive tense. Confusing syntax. Dull. Lifeless. Uninspiring. Whining. Milquetoast. WRONG.

What ever made this guy think he was an orator?
20 posted on 08/07/2003 9:23:49 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (http://thetaoofthedow.blogspot.com)
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