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Carly Simon to reveal just who was 'so vain'
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 08/02/03 | Michael Paterson

Posted on 08/01/2003 5:29:14 PM PDT by Pokey78

It is one of the great unsolved mysteries of the 1970s, along with the identity of the Watergate source Deep Throat, but now Carly Simon is to reveal who You're So Vain was about.

For 31 years the song has taunted listeners with the chorus: "You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you."

Rock writers have put forward many celebrities who might be the target of the lyric. They include former lovers of Simon, such as Warren Beatty, Mick Jagger (who sang backing vocals), Cat Stevens and Kris Kristofferson.

Simon, now 58, has only ever ruled out her then husband, James Taylor.

She will disclose the identity next week to the highest bidder at a charity auction in Martha's Vineyard, the Massachusetts island where she lives. But there is a catch.

The successful bidder will have to sign a confidentiality clause and can never pass on the information. The Daily Telegraph's rock critic, Neil McCormick, thought Simon could be making a tactical mistake.

"Once one person knows, I'm sure it will become public," he said.

"But maybe we'd be better not knowing. What if it's some guy we've never heard of? Carly's had ample opportunity to make it public in the past, so I suspect she's after a bit of publicity."

Simon joked recently that she feared that if she gave away the secret "no one would have anything to talk to me about".

In 1983, she told an interviewer: "It certainly sounds like it was about Warren Beatty. He certainly thought it was about him - he called me and said, 'Thanks for the song'."

She has teased interviewers mercilessly, at one point hinting it might be based on a composite of three men from her time as a young woman in Los Angeles.

According to the lyrics, the vain man wore a tilted hat and apricot-coloured scarf, went to horse racing in Saratoga and took a private Lear jet to watch a solar eclipse in Nova Scotia. He also spent time with a spy and the wife of a close friend.

After that hit song, Simon had a second huge seller, with the James Bond theme Nobody Does It Better. In recent years her appeal has, in rock parlance, become more selective.

Her latest songs feature on the soundtrack to the children's cartoon Piglet's Big Picture.


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1 posted on 08/01/2003 5:29:15 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I always thought it was James Taylor....?
2 posted on 08/01/2003 5:30:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Pokey78
Ah the superficial vanities of the idle rich liberals!
Whomever pays big bucks for this would vote for Hillary.
3 posted on 08/01/2003 5:31:41 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: Pokey78
Carly Simon time-traveled 20 years into the future, returned and wrote the song about Bill Clinton.
4 posted on 08/01/2003 5:32:10 PM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: Pokey78
I always thought it was about me.
5 posted on 08/01/2003 5:32:15 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I'd bet on Beatty.
6 posted on 08/01/2003 5:32:49 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tag line produced using 100% post-consumer recycled ethernet packets,)
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To: Pokey78
Yawn.

Who gives a rat's ass who some leftie tw*t was b*ning.

OTOH, it might have been G. Gordon Liddy, but I'm sure he's too much of a gentleman to disclose it.
7 posted on 08/01/2003 5:33:32 PM PDT by x1stcav ( HOOAHH!)
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To: ladyinred
At least this wasn't a vanity post.
8 posted on 08/01/2003 5:33:36 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Pokey78
But maybe we'd be better not knowing...

Of the same vintage, who was Roberta Flack singing about in "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face?"

9 posted on 08/01/2003 5:34:16 PM PDT by Mudbug
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To: Pokey78; Howlin
Big time Clinton lover. FReeper Howlin gave me a heads up for a song contest about YOU'RE SO VAIN by the Weekly Standard. This got runner up.

MIDI - YOU'RE SO VAIN

You stormed into the White House like you thought you had just bought the place
When Secret Service would get too close to you, you swore at them in their face
You had planned this whole thing years ago…the White House you would debase
Given the chance you’d kill our Constitution, our Constitution

You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction
You’re profane…you have a plan for freedom’s destruction…don’t you, don’t you?

You stood by while Bill would plan assaults…on women he’d launch attacks
He’d be turning to you to clean up the mess…you did it with White House hacks
After he created victims, you’d be stabbing them in their backs
Given the chance you’d kill our Constitution, our Constitution

You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction
You’re profane…you have a plan for freedom’s destruction…don’t you, don’t you?

I had a dream you killed those who opposed you…those who opposed you

The travel staff you had wanted gone, especially Billy Dale
Just to lose his job wasn’t good enough…you tried to put him in jail
There is not a thing that you won’t do so that you’ll finally prevail

And I had a dream you killed those who opposed you…those who opposed you

You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction
You’re profane…you have a plan for freedom’s destruction…don’t you, don’t you?

You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction
You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction
You’re profane…an evil tyrant bent on destruction

10 posted on 08/01/2003 5:35:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (So, I guess Gray Davis won't be making that presidential run after all.)
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To: dead
You're wrong. It was about ME!
11 posted on 08/01/2003 5:35:20 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Pokey78
My girlfriend 20 plus years ago said it was about Mick jagger, for having an affair with David Bowie's wife.
12 posted on 08/01/2003 5:36:30 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Pokey78
My doctor said I have very close veins!---Henny Youngman
13 posted on 08/01/2003 5:37:03 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Keith in Iowa
I thought it was common knowledge that it was
Warren Beatty.
14 posted on 08/01/2003 5:38:45 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Mudbug
Of the same vintage, who was Roberta Flack singing about in "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face?"

The songwriter (not Flack) wrote it after seeing a Don McLean show.

15 posted on 08/01/2003 5:39:17 PM PDT by rond
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To: Williams
My girlfriend 20 plus years ago said it was about Mick jagger, for having an affair with David Bowie's wife.

Your girlfriend got a little confused. The truth is that David Bowie's wife walked in on her husband and Mick Jagger in bed together.

I don't think that instantaneously vomit-inducing incident had anything to do with this song though.

16 posted on 08/01/2003 5:40:20 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Williams
I thought Mick had the affair with David. Oh well!
17 posted on 08/01/2003 5:40:42 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Pokey78
I remember hearing years ago the subject was Wayne Newton. In fact, I once sang this song at a karaoke bar imitating Newton's familiar clownish whine, substituting ever "you" and "you're" with "I" and "I'm."

To wit: "I'm so vain/did you know that this song is about me?"

18 posted on 08/01/2003 5:42:44 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: dead
The truth is that David Bowie's wife walked in on her husband and Mick Jagger in bed together.

Wasn't that Angie . . . . . . . . . AAAAANNNNGIE.

19 posted on 08/01/2003 5:43:56 PM PDT by Pokey78
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Her name is Angie, but I did not know she is "Angie" of the song. Is she?

That whole sixties/seventies rock scene was nothing but an incestual circle-jerk.

I mean, Harrison's wife went to Clapton, Angie's husband went to Mick, Mick's wife went to Torricelli, Torricelli's job went to Lautenberg...

20 posted on 08/01/2003 5:49:59 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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