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Family still wants to know why soldier died
(BIO weapons found in IRAQ?)
http://www.news-leader.com ^
| 7-29-03
| Eric Eckert
Posted on 07/31/2003 6:14:03 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
An hourlong phone call Monday afternoon with the U.S. Army Surgeon General's Office brought little closure to the parents of fallen soldier Spc. Joshua Neusche. Mark and Cynthia Neusche said they spoke with Col. Robert DeFraites, the office's senior preventive-medicine specialist. Throughout the conversation, the couple hoped to learn what exactly killed their oldest boy on July 12.
That answer never came.
"We didn't find out as much as we'd like to," Mark Neusche said after the teleconference at Fort Leonard Wood. "We learned a lot of stuff is still pending."
Josh Neusche a Missouri National Guardsman with the 203rd Engineer Battalion died in a German hospital after falling into a coma about 12 days earlier. The casualty report his parents received in the mail Monday says the 20-year-old college freshman succumbed to complications due to respiratory failure.
The colonel told the Neusches tissue samples taken from their son's liver, kidneys and lungs were sent for testing to the pathology lab at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. Mark Neusche said DeFraites advised it would take several weeks to learn of the test results.
Spc. Neusche, of Montreal, Mo., was among 12 soldiers in the Middle East who suffered pneumonia so severe they were placed on respirators, DeFraites said. All but one were treated at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany. Neusche and another unnamed soldier died after contracting the illness.
DeFraites told the News-Leader last week that two epidemiology teams had been deployed one to Landstuhl, the other to undisclosed areas of Iraq to study the cause of the pneumonia outbreak, which has afflicted dozens of troops since March 1.
"I think it's really positive that they're sending the crews," Mark Neusche said. "I'd like to get results a lot faster than what he told us, but apparently that's not possible. With them being overseas, it takes time."
The Neusches said Josh, a heavy-equipment operator, fell ill on June 30 after returning to his camp in Baghdad. He had just completed a mission that began four days earlier.
Cynthia Neusche said she's learned through firsthand accounts that Josh was complaining of a sore throat and had trouble breathing after returning to Baghdad. She said Josh talked with some friends before going to his tent to write letters one to his parents, the other to his girlfriend, Layne Clark.
That same night, Josh apparently left his tent and went to the camp's medical tent, where he fell into a coma, DeFraites told the Neusches.
The Neusches were told of their son's condition July 2. And after scrambling to acquire passports an effort expedited by U.S. Rep. Ike Skelton's office the couple flew to Landstuhl to be with Josh one day before he died.
"I don't see no reason for pneumonia to drop someone as healthy as Josh was," Mark Neusche said Monday, five days after burying his son.
Doctors in Landstuhl told the Neusches their son's organs had stopped functioning and he'd have to be transferred to a hospital in Hamburg, where he would be placed on dialysis. The soldier was dead by the time he arrived in Hamburg.
DeFraites said pneumonia can be brought on by bacteria and viruses, as well as fungus, parasites and noninfectious causes. Preliminary tests show the condition was not communicable, and investigators have ruled out severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.
In an earlier interview, DeFraites said the epidemiologist team will look at the victims' personal histories for smoking and medical ailments.
Cynthia Neusche said DeFraites asked her and her husband about Josh's habits. "He didn't smoke," she said. "He never had a broken bone. He was always healthy."
She did say, however, Josh was allergic to poison ivy. "That was about it."
While they'd like to know more, the Neusches said they're satisfied right now with the government's initiative.
(Excerpt) Read more at news-leader.com ...
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bio; wmd
This story was just point out to me in a local new site.
Any one else heard of this yet?
Could this be proof of Saddam's Bio-WMD's?
Here are a few more links about it.
http://www.lakesunleader.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article_lc.asp?storyid=44331
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:14:03 AM PDT
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
There are about 8 mystery illnesses.Pathology lab may give us something.
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:17:43 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: OXENinFLA; Shermy
Shermy more info here..
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:18:23 AM PDT
by
Dog
(Drove my Jagwire to the Quagmire but the Quagmire was DRY!!!)
To: OXENinFLA
This sounds similar to how the reports of the "Gulf War Syndrome" started out back in GW-I.
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:19:11 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: OXENinFLA
Col. Robert DeFraites, the surgeon general's senior preventative-medicine physician, said officials have not yet been able to identify a specific bacterium or virus that could have caused such severe cases of pneumonia.
"It's not entirely unheard of for this to happen," said DeFraites. He said that in the past five years, 17 soldiers have died of acute respiratory distress syndrome.
However, he said it is uncommon for pneumonia to cause a breakdown in organs other than the lungs.
Neusche's parents said that's what happened to their son. Mark and Cynthia Neusche said they were told their son's kidneys, liver and muscles began to deteriorate after he contracted the illness.
"The doctor said (Josh) got into some type of toxin that began degenerating his muscles," Mark Neusche said Friday.
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Now this is where it goes further than pneumonia.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/97607D5151F33ECC86256D71001BC190?OpenDocument&Headline=Death+of+soldier+from+Missouri+will+be+investigated+amid+spike+in+pneumonia+cases
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:21:05 AM PDT
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:28:53 AM PDT
by
boxerblues
(God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
To: boxerblues
sorry it post to soon
It is possiable to kick something up in the desert as he was a heavy equipment operator.
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:32:08 AM PDT
by
boxerblues
(God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
To: OXENinFLA
It was only very, very, very recently that armies started to have more deaths due to combat than to disease.
Go abroad and there are all sorts of (naturally occuring) nasty bugs one can catch. Extra-easy in a country where there's once been a war.
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:56:55 AM PDT
by
John H K
To: sc2_ct
This sounds similar to how the reports of the "Gulf War Syndrome" started out back in GW-I.
Actually, not the slightest similarity at all.
GWI reports did not begin with people IN COUNTRY dying rapidly of identifiable viruses/bacteria.
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posted on
07/31/2003 6:58:39 AM PDT
by
John H K
To: John H K; All
Could this have been anthrax? Might not want to disclose that, if it were so. Someone more up on inhaled anthrax might want to comment on that possibility.
I hope not.
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posted on
07/31/2003 7:07:34 AM PDT
by
jacquej
To: jacquej
With other organs affected, it could be bio-engineered anthrax.
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posted on
07/31/2003 7:29:11 AM PDT
by
Blueflag
(Res ipsa loquitor)
To: sc2_ct
This sounds similar to how the reports of the "Gulf War Syndrome" started out back in GW-ISource? Links? I am a "news junkie" and NEVER saw any articles on this type of rapid onset, organ destroying diseases during GW1.
A word of caution to newbies "Don't throw out leftist bs and expect to maintain any credibility on this site".
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posted on
07/31/2003 7:52:01 AM PDT
by
zip
(Lies repeated often enough become dimocRatic truths.)
To: OXENinFLA
Hm.
http://www.lakesunleader.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt 7 more cases of mystery illness
Military trying to identify malady that killed lake area soldier
By Marsha Paxson
Lake Sun
LAKE OF THE OZARKS -- Seven more soldiers in Iraq have contracted the same puzzling illness that has killed two soldiers, including one from the lake area.
The latest cases bring the number of affected troops to 19. All have been evacuated to the same Landstuhl, Germany, hospital where Spec. Josh Neusche, 20, of Montreal was treated before he died July 12.
It is believed Neusche contracted the illness, first thought to be pneumonia, while conducting cleanup operations with the 203rd Engineer Battalion in Baghdad.
"The Army Surgeon General confirmed that three or four of the soldier's in Josh's unit are among those who got sick," Sen. Ike Skelton told the Lake Sun Tuesday. "I know Josh was stationed in Baghdad when he got sick but I still do not know what unit the second soldier (who died of the mysterious
illness) was in, what his job was or where he was working when he became ill."
Skelton said he had not yet been told which units the sick soldiers were attached to or where they might have been before they fell ill. U.S. Army Surgeon General Lt. Gen. James Peake has ordered teams of medical experts and epidemiology specialists to retrace the soldiers' steps from the second they set foot in the Middle East.
"They are investigating everything it could possibly be," Skelton said. "I'm confident that with medical science and the technological advances we've made, we will get some positive answers."
Skelton, who serves as the ranking Democrat of the House Armed Services Committee, contacted top officials with the Department of the Army when he first learned of Neusche's case in late June.
Neusche's family could not afford to make the trip to Germany and was told he was in a coma, dying of a flu-like ailment.
Fellow soldiers chipped in for airfare and Skelton expedited their passports and paperwork to get them to Germany in time.
When Neusche's parents arrived in Germany on July 9, the illness had already begun ravaging his muscles, liver and kidneys. Neusche died in an ambulance on the way to another hospital for dialysis.
Cindi and Mark Neusche said that as they watched their son's health get worse, they noticed other soldiers were beginning to fill nearby hospital rooms.
Acute respiratory distress syndrome, which mimics some of the symptoms exhibited by the ailing soldiers usually targets the lungs and is not known to break down other organs.
Skelton said the surgeon general has completely ruled out severe acute respiratory distress syndrome, also known as SARS, as the cause.
"For some reason doctors have been able to eliminate SARS as a possible explanation for the soldier's deaths and sickness."
A month long study by doctors and scientists is expected to include a review of the soldiers' medical records and testing on blood and tissue samples in Germany. A separate team will conduct soil, water and air tests in Iraq and Kuwait to determine if a common denominator exists between the suspect cases.
Skelton says he's hanging on to hope for definitive answers -- and soon.
"The deaths of our American soldiers is a tragedy to start with," Skelton said. "They were just doing their duty to their country and to die of a unknown cause just makes it worse.
"It's heart-wrenching that two families have already buried their loved ones, not knowing what killed them. Closure is something we cannot give them until we get answers."
To: zip
I've been called many things including "Right-wing extremist", but never a leftist. I wasn't talking about the symptoms at all, but about how just a small number of people started suffering from mysterious illnesses after the war and there not being much coverage about it. In other words, the situation, not the specifics. By no means do I think that this is the same as the Gulf War Syndrome, nor did I ever indicate that this was a repeat of it - just that the scenario is similar to when the first reports started leaking out about it. I truely resent being called a leftist BTW.
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posted on
07/31/2003 10:47:48 AM PDT
by
sc2_ct
To: sc2_ct
I truely resent being called a leftist BTWThanks for clarifying your comments. I will apologize for a knee jerk reaction to your comments but I see so many of those that I do react.
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posted on
07/31/2003 11:09:32 AM PDT
by
zip
(Lies repeated often enough become dimocRatic truths.)
To: OXENinFLA; Dog; Calpernia; All
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posted on
07/31/2003 12:46:25 PM PDT
by
Shermy
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: zip
No problem. I understand. My post wasn't too clear I guess in hindsight.
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posted on
07/31/2003 8:58:00 PM PDT
by
sc2_ct
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