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Where the Good Jobs Are Going
Time Canada ^ | August 4, 2003 | Jyoti Thottam

Posted on 07/28/2003 11:01:09 AM PDT by Willie Green

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Forget sweatshops. U.S. companies are now shifting high-wage work overseas, especially to India

Little by little, sab maglione could feel his job slipping away. He worked for a large insurance firm in northern New Jersey, developing the software it uses to keep track of its agents. But in mid-2001, his employer introduced him to Tata Consultancy Services, India´s largest software company. About 120 Tata employees were brought in to help on a platform-conversion project. Maglione, 44, trained and managed a five-person Tata team. When one of them was named manager, he started to worry. By the end of last year, 70% of the project had been shifted to India and nearly all 20 U.S. workers, including Maglione, were laid off.

Since then, Maglione has been able to find only temporary work in his field, taking a pay cut of nearly 30% from his former salary of $77,000. For a family and mortgage, he says, “that doesn´t pay the bills.” Worried about utility costs, he runs after his two children, 11 and 7, to turn off the lights. And he has considered a new career as a house painter. “It doesn´t require that much skill, and I don´t have to go to school for it,” Maglione says. And houses, at least, can´t be painted from overseas.

Jobs that stay put are becoming a lot harder to find these days. U.S. companies are expected to send 3.3 million jobs overseas in the next 12 years, primarily to India, according to a study by Forrester Research. If you´ve ever called Dell about a sick PC or American Express about an error on your bill, you have already bumped the tip of this “offshore outsourcing” iceberg. The friendly voice that answered your questions was probably a customer-service rep in Bangalore or New Delhi. Those relatively low-skilled jobs were the first to go, starting in 1997.

But more and more of the jobs that are moving abroad today are highly skilled and highly paid—the type that U.S. workers assumed would always remain at home. Instead Maglione is one of thousands of Americans adjusting to the unsettling new reality of work. “If I can get another three years in this industry, I´ll be fortunate,” he says. Businesses are embracing offshore outsourcing in their drive to stay competitive, and almost any company, whether in manufacturing or services, can find some part of its work that can be done off site. By taking advantage of lower wages overseas, U.S. managers believe they can cut their overall costs 25% to 40% while building a more secure, more focused work force in the U.S. Labor leaders—and nonunion workers, who make up most of those being displaced—aren´t buying that rationale. “How can America be competitive in the long run sending over the very best jobs?” asks Marcus Courtney, president of the Seattle-based Washington Alliance of Technology Workers. “I don´t see how that helps the middle class.”

On the other side of the world, though, educated Indian workers are quickly adjusting to their new status as the world´s most sought-after employees. They have never been more confident and optimistic—as Americans usually like to think of themselves. For now, at least, in ways both tangible and emotional, educated Americans and Indians are trading places.

Uma Satheesh, 32, an employee of Wipro, one of India´s leading outsourcing companies, is among her country´s new élite. She manages 38 people who work for Hewlett-Packard´s enterprise-servers group doing maintenance, fixing defects and enhancing the networking software developed by HP for its clients. Her unit includes more than 300 people who work for HP, about 90 of whom were added last November when HP went through a round of cost-cutting.

“We´ve been associated with HP for a long time, so it was an emotional thing,” Satheesh says. “It was kind of a mixed feeling. But that is happening at all the companies, and it´s going to continue.” Satheesh says that five years ago, computer-science graduates had one career option in India: routine, mind-numbing computer programming. Anything more rewarding required emigrating. “Until three years ago, the first preference was to go overseas,” she says. Nowadays her colleagues are interested only in business trips to the U.S. “People are pretty comfortable with the jobs here and the pay here”—not to mention the cars and houses that once seemed out of reach. Employees in her group earn from $5,200 a year to $36,000 for the most experienced managers.

And as American companies have grown more familiar with their Indian outsourcing partners, they have steadily increased the complexity of work they are willing to hand over. Rajeshwari Rangarajan, 28, leads a team of seven Wipro workers enhancing the intranet site on which Lehman Brothers employees manage personal benefits like their 401(k) accounts. “I see myself growing with every project that I do here,” Rangarajan says. “I really don´t have any doubts about the growth of my career.”

Her experience with a leading brokerage will probably help. Financial-services companies in the U.S. are expected to move more than 500,000 jobs overseas in the next five years, according to a survey by management consultant A.T. Kearney, and India is by far the top destination. U.S. banks, insurance firms and mortgage companies have been using outsourcing to handle tech support for years. Now these firms are using Indian workers to handle the business operations—say, assessing loan applications and credit checks—that the technology supports. Kumar Mahadeva, CEO of the thriving outsourcing firm Cognizant, explains the appeal: “It becomes logical for them to say, ‘Hey, you know everything about the way we do claims processing. Why not take a piece of it?´”

The next logical step, says Andrea Bierce, a co-author of the A.T. Kearney study, is jobs that require more complex financial skills such as equity research and analysis or market research for developing new business. Evalueserve, a niche outsourcing company in Delhi, already performs research for patent attorneys and consulting firms in the U.S. In April, J.P. Morgan Chase said it would hire about 40 stock-research analysts in Bombay—about 5% of its total research staff. Novartis employs 40 statisticians in Bombay who process data from the drug company´s clinical research.

But as educated workers in India are finding new opportunities, those in the U.S. feel the doors closing. Last week Bernie Lantz drove 1,400 miles from his home in Plano, Texas, to begin a new life in Utah. He is 58 years old, a bachelor, and had lived in the Dallas area for 24 years. “I´m leaving all my friends,” he says with a sigh. “It´s quite an upheaval.” Lantz used to earn $80,000 a year as a troubleshooter for Sabre, a company based in Southlake, Texas, whose software powers airline-reservations systems. But over the past two years, Sabre has gradually standardized and has centralized its software service. As Sabre began to outsource its internal IT services, Lantz says, he became convinced that jobs like his were becoming endangered. He was laid off in December. (A company spokesman denies that Lantz´s firing was related to outsourcing.)

Discouraged by a depressed job market in Dallas, Lantz realized he would have to do something else. In the fall he will begin teaching computer science at Utah State University in Logan, and in the meantime he has learned a lesson of his own: “Find a job that requires direct hands-on work on site,” Lantz advises. “Anything that can be sent overseas is going to be sent overseas.”

Pat Fluno, 53, of Orlando, Florida, says she, like Maglione, had to train her replacement—a common practice in the domestic outsourcing industry—when her data-processing unit at Germany-based Siemens was outsourced to India´s Tata last year. “It´s extremely insulting,” she says. “The guy´s sitting there doing my old job.” After 10 months of looking, she is working again, but she had to take a $10,000 pay cut.

To protect domestic jobs, U.S. labor activists are pushing to limit the number of H-1B and L-1 visas granted to foreign workers. That would make it harder for offshore companies to have their employees working on site in the U.S. “Those programs were designed for a booming high-tech economy, not a busting high-tech economy,” says Courtney of the Washington Alliance of Technology Workers. Courtney and his allies are starting to get the attention of lawmakers. Several congressional committees have held hearings on the impact of offshore outsourcing on the U.S. economy, and lawmakers in five states have introduced bills that would limit or forbid filling government contracts through offshore outsourcing.

Stephanie Moore, a vice president of Forrester Research, says companies are concerned about the backlash but mainly because of the negative publicity. “The retail industry is very hush-hush about its offshoring,” she says. But within the boardroom, such outsourcing enjoys wide support. In a June survey of 1,000 firms by Gartner Research, 80% said the backlash would have no effect on their plans.

The advantages, businesses say, are just too great to ignore. They begin with cost but don´t end there. Jennifer Cotteleer, vice president of Phase Forward, a Waltham, Massachusetts, company that designs software for measuring clinical-trials data for drug companies, has for the past two years used offshore employees from Cognizant to customize the application for specific drug trials. Lately she has been relying on their expertise to develop even more-tailored programming. “I certainly couldn´t have grown this fast without them,” Cotteleer says. Her company is growing 30% annually, on track to reach $65 million in revenue this year. “What I´ve been able to do in very tough economic times is manage very directly to my margins,” she says. “I´m providing job security for the workers I do have.”

Creative use of offshore outsourcing, says Debashish Sinha of Gartner Research, offers benefits that outweigh the direct loss of jobs. In an economy that has shed 2 million jobs over two years, he contends, the 200,000 that have moved overseas are less significant than the potential for cost savings and strategic growth. But he concedes that “when you´re a laid-off employee who can´t find a job, that´s hard to understand.”

Perhaps some will follow the example of Dick Taggart, 41, of Old Greenwich, Connecticut. After 18 years in financial services, most recently at J.P. Morgan Chase, he now works for Progeon, an affiliate of the Indian outsourcing giant Infosys, as its man on Wall Street. One week out of every six or seven, he takes securities firms to India to show them the savings that are possible. He knows the transition is painful for the workers left behind, but he has seen it before. “It was the same thing when we moved from Wall Street to New Jersey and then to Dallas,” he says. “Guess what? This is next.”

 —With reporting by Sean Gregory/New York City


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: globalism; outsourcing
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Where have all the good jobs gone?
1 posted on 07/28/2003 11:01:09 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green; clamper1797; sarcasm; BrooklynGOP; A. Pole; Zorrito; GiovannaNicoletta; Caipirabob; ..
More on offshoring
2 posted on 07/28/2003 11:07:29 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Willie Green
Didn't Microsoft or somebody recently say that in the next decade they will shift 3 MILLION jobs overseas? Maybe we should arm Pakistan a little more so India will be in no shape to receive them?? *wink*
3 posted on 07/28/2003 11:11:18 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: need_a_screen_name
They'll come back. The first time some VP has to call for support, they'll drop it
4 posted on 07/28/2003 11:13:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Willie Green
If so many of the good jobs are disappearing, one might expect the hyperinflated housing market to find a new, lower level at some time. Alaska, Fairbanks in particular, is known for a boom-bust business cycle. It's been booming since Prudhoe, and one has to wonder if the economy will go bust again and if it will happen overnight. There are a lot of huge, upscale homes built recently. Maybe we who remain after the bust could move into 7000 square foot mansions a penny on the dollar.
5 posted on 07/28/2003 11:17:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Willie Green
Since then, Maglione has been able to find only temporary work in his field, taking a pay cut of nearly 30% from his former salary of $77,000. For a family and mortgage, he says, “that doesn´t pay the bills.” Worried about utility costs, he runs after his two children, 11 and 7, to turn off the lights. And he has considered a new career as a house painter. “It doesn´t require that much skill, and I don´t have to go to school for it,” Maglione says. And houses, at least, can´t be painted from overseas.

54K is still is good salary. His mortgage and bills should have been based on conservative assumptions, if he'd been more frugal with utilities etc in the first place, he'd have more savings now, and if he thinks he can make 54-77K house painting he's nuts. I know, I've done it.

Maybe the guy was misquoted, but he sounds like a real loser.

6 posted on 07/28/2003 11:20:54 AM PDT by Huck
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To: RightWhale
If so many of the good jobs are disappearing, one might expect the hyperinflated housing market to find a new, lower level at some time

U.S. mortgage demand falls in July 18 week-MBA
Layoffs Loom as Mortgage Boom Wanes

7 posted on 07/28/2003 11:23:47 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
bump
8 posted on 07/28/2003 11:25:31 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Willie Green
Sure. Just yesterday was a report that new housing starts are at an all-time high. Such is the dialectic of contradictions.
9 posted on 07/28/2003 11:29:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Willie Green
Follow the money on all India outsourcing.
They cover their tracks very poorly and kickbacks are easy to find.
10 posted on 07/28/2003 11:31:22 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Willie Green
If you're asked to train an H1B to "assist" you etc., you might as well start looking for other employment.
11 posted on 07/28/2003 11:34:15 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: RightWhale
Which is why all the real investors I know are waiting for said bust (predicted by PIMCO to be in the 2005-06 time frame) to occur before stepping into the real estate market.

They may not be right, but I've seen at least 3 major cycles since 1973 in the West. The East coast seems to be somewhat out of phase, but the swings are larger.

12 posted on 07/28/2003 11:37:16 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Willie Green
We outsourced the user-interface software for a project to Wipro. They had folks on-site and in India. It was a disaster. The programmers were border line incompetent, turn-around time on bug fixes was slow due to the time difference and frequent religious holidays and the resultant code so poorly written as to be unmaintainable.
Latent bugs discovered by a customer almost cost us a mjor contract. Now all our code is written and tested in house by folks who care about the quality of their work and have a stake in the success of our company.
13 posted on 07/28/2003 11:43:05 AM PDT by jrp
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To: RightWhale
Sure. Just yesterday was a report that new housing starts are at an all-time high.

I doubt if Alaska has many housing starts October thru March.

14 posted on 07/28/2003 11:44:06 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Most desk jobs can potentially be outsourced
15 posted on 07/28/2003 11:46:13 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Willie Green
I doubt if Alaska has many housing starts October thru March.

25% of housing starts are in that segment of the year. Peak is in April or May depending on time of breakup.

16 posted on 07/28/2003 11:49:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Willie Green
" Businesses are embracing offshore outsourcing in their drive to stay competitive..."

As others have written, outsourcing like this is a short-term fix for a long-term problem at the company and usually masks systemic problems that eventually do in the company anyway...

17 posted on 07/28/2003 11:53:40 AM PDT by sauropod ("Come over here and make me. I dare you. You little fruitcake, you little fruitcake.")
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To: Huck
BS. With our current tax burden, and the way it is skewed toward raping the middle class, your "conservative assumptions" crap is so much male bovine fecal effluvia.
18 posted on 07/28/2003 11:58:35 AM PDT by sauropod ("Come over here and make me. I dare you. You little fruitcake, you little fruitcake.")
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To: sauropod
With our current tax burden, and the way it is skewed toward raping the middle class, your "conservative assumptions" crap is so much male bovine fecal effluvia.

When a person is taking a mortgage, in your opinion, that person should or should not consider prevailing tax laws, expected income, savings, expenses, etc?

And a follow up--should that person, if they choose to consider such things, use rosy forecasts or conservative ones?

19 posted on 07/28/2003 12:03:38 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Willie Green
BTTT
20 posted on 07/28/2003 12:06:51 PM PDT by Marianne
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