[joesnuffy]

Mainstream religous groups like the "National Council of Churches or the World Council of Churches"?

These "news releases" are often disinfo campaigns against Evangelicals of the "dispensationalist" persuasion...as there are no hard and fast rules here as to what that means exactly...or how that is germane in what one believes "what one must do in order to "be saved"

The common disinfo techinique has been to accuse Christians of being "Zionists" because they wish to "usher in" the return of Jesus...and believe they can...

Pretty far fetched..as no one I have read belives this is possible any more than the RoadMap could prevent Jesus from coming back..Or that Evangelicals of the "dispensationalist persuasion" believe that they have the power to manipulate God the Father or God the Son

He will return when He chooses to and was He promised ..not one second sooner or later...there is no one nor anything that man could possibly do to prevent delay or promote His return-a fact every Evangelical is accutely aware of ..or at least should be..

So the relationship between "dispensationalist" Evangelicals and Israel must be based upon something else entirely- imo

The promise made to Abraham ..I will bless those who bless thee and I will curse those who curse thee...for example

And the fact that God choose to become man through the Jewish/Hebrew/Israelite people
And that Jesus' concern for Jerusalem was so great He wept over her...for another example
there are many others-

Islam-imo- is a satanic religion that breeds terror...it is a death cult...to appease it to give in to it to reward it is simply wrong...for Christians to back The foolishness of trusting peace let alone keeping promises to terrorists is -imo- pure foolishness...

Perhaps to steal Israeli land and give it to terrorists seems like the ticket to peace..but the gross inequity the injustice of giving land to murderers rapists theives terrorists seems like a breach of promise to me..

I am reminded of the words of our president: "From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."
- President GW Bush

[lupie]

He will return when He chooses to and was He promised ..not one second sooner or later...there is no one nor anything that man could possibly do to prevent delay or promote His return-a fact every Evangelical is accutely aware of ..or at least should be..

How very true. The appointed time of His blessed return is already set and has been. Watching what is happening in the fight over the land given to Abrahm, Isaac and Jacob and how it is playing out is a sign to Evangelicals that the Messiah's coming is likely very soon, but we do not know when, nor can we change it.

In Jesus alone,
Andra

[NH Liberty]

"no one I have read belives this is possible any more than the RoadMap could prevent Jesus from coming back..Or that Evangelicals of the "dispensationalist persuasion" believe that they have the power to manipulate God the Father or God the Son He will return when He chooses to and was He promised ..not one second sooner or later...there is no one nor anything that man could possibly do to prevent delay or promote His return-a fact every Evangelical is accutely aware of ..or at least should be.. So the relationship between "dispensationalist" Evangelicals and Israel must be based upon something else entirely- imo The promise made to Abraham ..I will bless those who bless thee and I will curse those who curse thee...for example "

Well said, joesnufy. Some of the "information" that gets written by these secular liberals about [Bible-believing] Christians is astonishingly incorrect.

But your response (#6?) was a veddy good one.