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I think the Democrats are being set up. (Why is everyone so worried?)
Pukin Dog

Posted on 07/13/2003 2:08:24 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

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To: Pukin Dog
If I am correct, (and I could go into this deeper but I wont) Bush will win such a big victory, that it will also cause a filibuster-majority in the Senate,

Pretty unlikely IMO. I think they'd have to get up to at least 58 seats for a filibuster-proof Senate. They don't seem to have strong candidates in several Democrat held states that tend to vote Republican for Pres. As for the more Democratic states, apparently there will be only a token challenge to Shumer in NY. Winning Boxer's seat in CA is a pipe dream.

For a pickup of 7 net seats, Bush probably has to run a more ideologically defined campaign where he goes on the attack. That might sacrifice the chance to pick up seats in the more Democratic states which the GOP probably won't get anyway, but increase the chances in the more conservative states. The indications are that he (actually Karl Rove) will instead repeat Reagan's mistake where he ran an issueless campaign in 84, won in a landslide and picked up next to nothing in Congress.

21 posted on 07/13/2003 2:25:54 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Pukin Dog
I like the way you laid this out. My husband and I have been speculating that we already have the proof because of the demeanor of Rumsfeld and Gen. Franks and Gen Myers. Of course, I know that all three of them are extremely strong men and I admire them tremendously. But there have been little hints here and there if you listen to what they say and the manner in which they speak. I've been saying since G.W. was elected Governor, "Don't ever play poker with W."
22 posted on 07/13/2003 2:31:07 PM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: nopardons
Regarding your last... could you please ping anyone who you think should read this?

Best wishes.
23 posted on 07/13/2003 2:34:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I think the administration has been secretly gathering data, to avoid contamination and doubt by those hoping nothing is ever found. I believe that when the evidence comes out, that it will be so voluminous and meticulous that no one will be able to dispute it.

Doubt it.

I would be happy if it were true, but I doubt it.

24 posted on 07/13/2003 2:34:43 PM PDT by RJCogburn ("All them Parmelees is teched. Harold's the worst.".....Lucky Ned Pepper)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good post. I agree with you on most. There has definitely been some major Bush bashing going on. The lefties here att work are salivating over the Niger story. I really hope you are right Bush nuking the dems and the media. Having said that; while I dont agree with some of what W is doing, he most certainly has my vote. I dont want it on my conscience that my voting away from W, third party or for a Dim, paved the way for Hillary or Kerry to get into the White House.
25 posted on 07/13/2003 2:35:10 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: RaceBannon
We have an ignorant populace, they will accuse Bush of fabricating the evidence because of the late time period it took to reveal the evidence.

The irony of that is that if Bush truely lied, he would have planted WMDs right away and not gone through all this. There is no way, if he were dishonest, he would have risked this. No, by the time this is let out, there will be so much documentation, so much evidence, that the liberal whine about "planting" will be recognized as total nonsense.

26 posted on 07/13/2003 2:35:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: billhilly; Pukin Dog
Your selection of a screen name is going to endear you to FR. Do you have orange or green hair?


Well, if you'd looked over at the Freeper Foxhole,you'd have seen the nick come from VF 143 . My guess is that Dog is fairly well groomed.... for a squid airplane driver.
27 posted on 07/13/2003 2:35:54 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday,today and tomorrow..........The United States Army)
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To: Pukin Dog
Welcome to FreeRepublic, and I agree with your assessment.
28 posted on 07/13/2003 2:36:14 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to FreeRepublic!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Based on the laying-low strategy of last summer, letting the Dems carp and moan about going to Congress and the UN for approval on Iraq and then sledge-hammering them with the speech at the U.N. and the vote in Congress just before mid-term elections, I've been thinking we have the same crescendo building right now. You'd think they'd learn -- but it seems the morally and intellectually bankrupt can't resist the bait.
29 posted on 07/13/2003 2:36:47 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Pukin Dog
I have a feeling the reluctance to produce the proof of he attempt to buy uranium (and no one ever asks but much more important) willingness to sell it, is due to the administrations desire to not expose the Europeans unless he has to. When the Dems push too hard they might be shown the hole cards and not like what they see.

Imagine what will happen between America and the EU if the evidence were to reflect that France, Germany, Canada, and a host of intermediaries from all over the world were selling Uranium for profit during a time they had agreed to a UN embargo. Niger is a French colony, and the number one source of income has been mining and sales of uranium, with the majority going to France and Japan. Chretian already sold Saddam 90%+ weapons grade uranium to start a electricplant that only needed 10% grade to get started, how far fetched is it to imagine France behind a sale for more?JMHO

George Jr. might be biting the bullet for the sake of the moneychangers.

30 posted on 07/13/2003 2:38:08 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Pukin Dog
I believe that Bush is going to release a huge amount of documented, cataloged, unassailable proof of WMD of every kind.

The dems seem to forget their own words on this issue...

Gore repeats that Saddam MUST GO - June 2000
Following Gore's meeting with the Iraqi opposition groups, the two sides released a joint statement reiterating the U.S. commitment to removing Saddam Husseyn from power and arguing that Saddam's removal "is the key to the positive transformation of Iraq's relationship to the international community." ---- "U.S. Vice President Al Gore told Iraqi opposition leaders that Saddam Husseyn "must be removed from power,"

The Democrats' Case Against Saddam Hussein (Dems nailed, yet again)
Senator Kerry: "Mr. President, we have every reason to believe that Saddam Hussein will continue to do everything in his power to further develop weapons of mass destruction and the ability to deliver those weapons, and that he will use those weapons without concern or pangs of conscience if ever and whenever his own calculations persuade him it is in his interests to do so. . . . I have spoken before this chamber on several occasions to state my belief that the United States must take every feasible step to lead the world to remove this unacceptable threat.

Headline Rundown and links on Iraq - Things the democrats have conviently forgot...
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: However, as you all know from the recent crisis that we had, that we are sensing more and more that Saddam Hussein only wants sanctions lifted and does not want to comply with what is absolutely essential, that is, that he not reacquire or redevelop his ability to have weapons of mass destruction, or threaten his neighbors, or threaten our forces in the region. And therefore, we have added to our policy, and are now at containment plus regime change.

Saddam Abused His Last Chance, Clinton -clear and present danger to safety of people everywhere 1998
Clinton: "Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said. The Iraqi dictator has used these weapons against his neighbors and his own people, he said, and "left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again."

What the democrats want you to forget
Clinton: Clinton detailed Hussein's lies and evasions since the end of the Gulf War. Under the agreement ending the war, Hussein had 15 days to report about his nuclear, chemical and biological arsenal. "Iraq has repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War," Clinton said.
U.N. inspectors have found proof time and again that Iraq lied about its nuclear program, Clinton said. The Iraqis simply amended their declaration to incorporate the discoveries.
"[Iraq] has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by [the U.N. Special Commission]," he said.

Iraq is a Regional Threat, capable of as much as 200 tons of VX nerve agent (1999 Clinton report)


31 posted on 07/13/2003 2:40:26 PM PDT by chance33_98 (http://home.frognet.net/~thowell/haunt/ ---->our ghosty page)
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To: sinkspur
Todd's banned again? I certainly haven't missed him.
32 posted on 07/13/2003 2:42:21 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: gatorbait
My guess is that Dog is fairly well groomed.... for a squid airplane driver.

Better than some Dudley Do-Right Air Force weenie. ;-)

33 posted on 07/13/2003 2:42:38 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
"We shall see. I think they will release it in a way that cannot be denied"


The only way they can do that is to roll some of the de-activated WMD's directly into the UN chambers where every-one gets a look at them. Just don't let on that they are "deactivated" at first!
34 posted on 07/13/2003 2:43:05 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: McGavin999
I agree with you. He is making sure that the Dems will have no excape.
35 posted on 07/13/2003 2:43:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: chance33_98
Good stuff. Thanks.
36 posted on 07/13/2003 2:44:12 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: RJCogburn
A close friend of mine has returned from Baghad and reports the presence hundreds of barrels of mustard and other constituents of WMD. He was sent specifically for his expertise in identifying them and flown this weekend for debriefing. Accusations of malfeasance levied against the president will soon become only so much rope...
37 posted on 07/13/2003 2:45:30 PM PDT by glaux
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To: Pukin Dog

You raise a good point. We saw this same thing all through the 12-month "headlong rush to war" in Iraq.

Bush would give a speech, support for going to war would go up into the mid-60's, and the media would promptly begin sanding it down. We all heard the litany a dozen times: it'll be a quagmire, the Arab street will explode, millions will die, yada yada.

After some months of this, the media would have a chest-beating orgasm as they announced that support for the war had dropped below 50%. "Majority opposes Bush. Yeah us!"

[Pretend the previous two paragraphs have now been repeated four or five times]

Around the time we're heading into the media orgasm, people around here start getting antsy. "Why won't he say anything? Why does he let this crap go unanswered? The sheeple are falling for it!"

Well no, the "sheeple," who aren't sheeple at all, aren't falling for a damned thing. The American public learned a long time ago how to jerk pollsters around by telling them what they want to hear. There's a reason that two consecutive newspaper headlines in 1980 were "Too Close To Call" and "Reagan Landslide". That was twenty years ago, and people have gotten better at it since.

I agree that this is the best Republican Administration I have ever seen — better than Reagan's — for twisting the media's panties into knots and making them look like arrogant twits. Some of those Rumsfeld press conferences could go into re-runs on pay-per-view.

I don't know if they're about to logroll them on the WMD's or not, but they sure did set them up on "Uraniumgate." The presses were already rolling on Time magazine's covers when Tenet popped the balloon at COB Friday. Then they hit the talk shows on Sunday to push the remaining little pieces of rubber down their throats, and Time hits the newsstand on Monday with a cover that makes them look like a DNC mouthpiece that didn't get the memo. Ya gotta love it.


38 posted on 07/13/2003 2:46:33 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: cmsgop
Old TLB is dating Susan Smith I hear....hahaha!
39 posted on 07/13/2003 2:52:28 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Pukin Dog
>>>>>>>I think with a little perspective; there is much room for optimism, instead of all the worrying and doubt that I see on other threads. If Bush is our man, why not have a little faith? I think it will be rewarded in due time. Thanks for reading my ‘vanity’ it won’t happen again, but I wanted to get this off my chest.>>>>>>>>>

Thank you for posting this. It has been concerning me the lack of support I am seeing on here to the point I think we have some opposition nibbling away.

I am with you on confidence in the Administration. The people I have worked with that have been hand selected by Bush are outstanding, dedicated and bright. We need to be patient and stand firmly behind them unless we want to loose our next critical election which I fear would have grave global repercussions.

I see a very clear plan on their global repositioning which I do not feel comfortable discussing on forum. They are wisely putting essentials in place to fight terrorism and when the time is right...

The "Art of War" has many wisdoms... one of my favorite books.







40 posted on 07/13/2003 2:52:40 PM PDT by Gabrielle Reilly
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