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Mysteries of the Amber Chamber - restoration of the 8th wonder of the world
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| 07/08/03
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Posted on 07/08/2003 11:14:34 AM PDT by bedolido
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:15:51 AM PDT
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To: strela; hchutch
You gentlemen may find this interesting.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:23:11 AM PDT
by
El Sordo
To: El Sordo; Poohbah
Thanks.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:27:51 AM PDT
by
hchutch
(The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
To: bedolido
A possible solution to the mystery of the loss of the Amber Room ...
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:28:44 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: BlueLancer
the solution.........?
Did it go down on the ship?
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:31:48 AM PDT
by
EggsAckley
( "Aspire to mediocracy"................new motto for publik skools.............)
To: EggsAckley
From what I understand, there were reports of a "last-minute" addition to the cargo ... a quantity of large heavy crates guarded by SS-troops, who were also placed aboard as guards. The rumors were handed down and persisted that inside the crates was the disassembled Amber Room.
Who knows ... it is one explanation. It seems strange that few (and then only very small) pieces of the room have ever come to light after the war.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:37:34 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: blam
FYI
To: John Beresford Tipton
Do you have a bigger picture of this chamber? It sounds interesting.
To: El Sordo; hchutch
An interesting article - thanks for pinging me to it.
Researchers managed to get negatives of amber chamber items. The problem was that the images were black-and-white. It was quite a problem to restore the color spectrum of the solar stone of which the amber chamber was made judging by the negatives. The researchers suggested a brilliant solution: they made up a scale of different amber shades and made a black-and-white picture of the scale. During the reconstruction works the scale of amber shades was compared with the negatives of amber chamber exhibits so that reconstructed items agreed the originals by color.
Brilliant indeed. Pound for pound, as proven in their space program and just in everyday life, Russians routinely prove themselves to be the best practical engineers on the planet. They seem to have something that the pioneers of the American West had, and something sadly that we seem to have lost.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:48:02 AM PDT
by
strela
("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
To: strela
You can praise Russians, but is it necessary to demean Americans?
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:50:25 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
((BUSH/CHENEY 2004))
To: msdrby
ping
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:53:59 AM PDT
by
Prof Engineer
(I'm a man, But I can change, If I have to, I guess)
To: Lost and Confused
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:54:36 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: OldFriend
You can praise Russians, but is it necessary to demean Americans? I honestly don't believe that I did. I was very careful to note that Americans had the capacity to do the same thing and had the same skills. Whether we still do is an arguable point, and one that I'd love to debate.
When you have nothing, being a good practical engineer is a survival skill, which I happen to believe that many Russians are. Say what you will, our society is rich and even the poorest among us live in conditions that many in the rest of the world would kill to have. (And that's a good thing, in my opinion). When was the last time that you saved tin foil? Or string? Or newspapers? When was the last time you had to?
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posted on
07/08/2003 12:11:08 PM PDT
by
strela
("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
To: Lost and Confused
You messaged me my mistake, I have no pictures.
To: John Beresford Tipton
Thanks, I'm slightly familiar with the Amber Chamber.
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posted on
07/08/2003 3:18:07 PM PDT
by
blam
To: strela
Brilliant indeed. Pound for pound, as proven in their space program and just in everyday life, Russians routinely prove themselves to be the best practical engineers on the planet.
Not all that brilliant. A densitometry reading of black and white amber colors
should yield up something like a color guide.
This is brilliance:::
At one time, black and white cameras were lofted on rockets
from the Alabama Rocket Center or whatever it was called.
The cameras took pictures of the stars above the atmosphere
or however high they went, then the camera was parachuted from
the rocket, retrieved, and the film developed.
On one mission, they recovered the film and developed it only
to find the camera F-stop setting had been set way too high,
that is, the aperture was too small, and the black and white
negatives severely underexposed. Useless. So they gave the film
to an engineering student at Alabama and told her anything she
could do would be appreciated, but the mission was written off.
After some contemplation, the student had the film irradiated to
make is slightly radioactive, then made contact prints from the
negatives using only the radioactive silver molecules as source
of exposure. It worked, the mission was saved. Now that's
brilliance!
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:19:24 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: OldFriend
See #17.
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:20:03 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
Not all that brilliant. I beg to differ. The deed was done within the confines of a crushing dictatorship, with little or no money to back the research, and in a society that otherwise expects mediocrity. The idea described in the story was like seeing a sparkling 5-carat diamond in the middle of a cesspool.
As for your example in the US space program, it was brilliant as well. And nobody is disparaging the quality of the minds in US universities and in the US space program. But, where we can pretty much always afford to launch another spacecraft to garner the same data, Russians have to get creative to do the same thing in many cases.
I am an American, and I am proud to be one. But, I firmly believe in giving credit where credit is due. The fact that a country almost completely devastated by World War II, crippled by a horrible form of government, and suffering under institutional corruption that makes our occasional bad cop or public official look like the Knights of the Round Table missed beating us to the Moon by an eyelash in time is extraordinary. I have a firm respect for Russians in general and their intelligence and enterpreneurial spirit in particular.
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posted on
07/08/2003 11:47:10 PM PDT
by
strela
("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
To: strela
The point was not giving credit, it was taking that opportunity to disparage America.
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posted on
07/09/2003 4:34:51 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
((BUSH/CHENEY 2004))
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