[Torie]

Then agitate to put employers in prison that hire them, and create an indentity card, and a data base, to make forgery very difficult. Absent that, illegals will always be with us. Every industrial democratic nation gives free schooling to all children who live within its bordies. To not do so, is close to a crime against humanity. I will not subscribe to that, and will strenuously oppose it. I will NOT favor any policy making children victims of culture wars, failed public policy, nativist fears, pinch pennies, or anything of that ilk, ever.

[Torie]

bordies

I like that. Very Cockney.

[101viking]

"Every industrial democratic nation gives free schooling to all children who live within its bordies."

In a utopian world, every child has the right to an education, and I am willing to conceed that "every industrial democratic nation gives free education to all children who live within it's borders," for arguements sake.

However, I am not aware of any great number of so-called "democratic industrialized nations" that have as poorly enforced immigration and border policies as the U.S. The situation here cannot obfuscated by saying..."gee them other guys do it so it makes it ok if we do too." This is the same arguement I get from my teenage daughter, and it is irrelevant.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I will NOT favor any policy making children victims of culture wars, failed public policy, nativist fears, pinch pennies, or anything of that ilk, ever."

Some "conservatives" will fight to the death for the right of a fetus to life, demanding that the government give legal status to the unborn, then turn right around and deny the children of immigrants any rights, including the right to an education, because of their legal status.

Is it me, or do we really not make sense sometimes?

Shouldn't we be fighting for the rights of children of any legal status?