The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage
Posted on 07/02/2003 7:41:17 AM PDT by upchuck
I think the honus is on gay men. Public lewdness is not tolerable in our culture. People are for more tolerant I think of a quiet conservative homosexual couple, than an in your face hedonist who puts themself out on public display.
So much of "gay culture" is just crap. It is not innate. One does not wake up gay and feel a deep compulsion to dress in drag or with leather and chains. Once gays quit stereotyping themselves, perhaps people will stop stereotyping them as well. Just a thought.
It happens in prison. It happens to children of homosexual households at a rate nearly 7 times their “3%” population. What do you think a so-called ‘bisexual” is? And sometimes by choice.
Your post was great, and I agree with all of it, especially the statement above. It should be required reading for all gay people.
I know several gays that are HORRIFIED by the in-your-face flamer attitude of the Pride Parade type of gays. But when they try and say something about it they get shouted down and called homophobes even though they're gay!! It's ridiculous.
LQ
Prison rape occurs, depending on the prison, at a rate of 14-25% of the population.
A 1982 study of a medium-security prison in California found that 14 percent of inmates had been forced into oral or anal sex. If that figure applies to all jails and penal institutions, about one million males are raped behind bars each year. Wooden, Wayne S., and Parker, Jay. Men Behind Bars. New York: Plenum Press, 1982. The one million figure is based on the fact that about 8.6million males pass through jails and prisons each year, according to the Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, 1990, Tables 6.33, 6.63, 6.89, and 6.90.
In 1996, Cindy Struckman-Johnson of the University of South Dakota published a survey of the Nebraska prison system showing that almost 1 in 4 inmates had been "pressured or forced to have sexual contact against [their] will."Struckman-Johnson, Cindy, Ph.D., and Struckman-Johnson, David, Ph.D. "Men Pressured and Forced Into Sexual Experience." Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1 (1994), pp 93-114.
Consensual homosexuality on the other hand in prison runs at a rate between 41-70% and I’ve read as high as 78% in the Florida prison systems though I can’t put a finger on that cite at the moment.
In prisons, many males are involved in homosexual sex. Dr. Frank Rundle who …"believes that it's almost universal," involving "almost everybody at least sometime." Another professional gives a 70 percent estimate Rideau, W. and Sinclair, J (1982). Prison: The Sexual Jungle. in Scacco, Jr., Anthony M., Ed… 3-29.
Questionnaire responses from 13- to 17-year-old girls in four all-female and three coed institutions were used to determine rates and causes of institutional homosexuality. Rates were as high in coed as in single-sexed institutions. The overall rates of homosexuality for all seven institutions were 14% for "going with or being married" to another girl, 10% for passionately kissing, 10% for writing love letters, and 7% for having sex, beyond hugging and kissing, with another girl. The data suggest that previous homosexuality, often experienced in other correctional programs, explains much of the variance in institutional homosexuality. LESBIANISM IN FEMALE AND COED CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTIONS, ALICE M. PROPPER, JOURNAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY, 1978, VOL3(3), P265-274.
I don't know where you got the stats on children but the ones I've seen are lower than than (21 % of children of gays become gay themselves? Seems high).
I’ll look up the name of the study if you want, it’s been within the last year, although I may not find the cite for the 20%. Britt Hume interviewed the researcher and asked the question three or four times in a row before she answered, it was very obvious she didn’t want to give up the stat so I’m not sure I’ll find the reference to it.
I still am not getting how homos are going to turn the entire society gay if not checked.
You don’t think that if the culture changes to accept homosexuality without stigma the 20% of children now raised in homosexual households will increase even more? I’m not saying adults can change short of prison or that ALL of society will change and become homosexual but indoctrination at an early age, as this chosen behavior manifests now, will certainly bump the stats up from what it is now.
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