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What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?
June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)



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As I recall, our forebears revolted over far less than we swallow regularly. Have we become so soft that we have no will to fight? Or if we fight, should we never be able to rest? I realize that we all want to believe that we are making a difference, and maybe in some small way we are, but how long will we be able to swim against the tide? What are the chances that we can turn it around? I don't mean to be fatalistic, but I am very discouraged. Perhaps there is something I have not considered. I fear for the future our children will inherit. How are you coping? What are you teaching your children? Where do you see the USA in 10 years? 20 years? What is the legacy of our generations?
1 posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
What brought this on?
2 posted on 06/30/2003 5:37:32 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: sweetliberty
"O Liberty! Liberty! how many crimes are committed in thy name!"--Madame Roland (1754–1793)
3 posted on 06/30/2003 5:37:37 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: sweetliberty
What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

Revolution.

4 posted on 06/30/2003 5:38:40 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: sweetliberty
At the risk of being perceived as a fanatic, I offer this:
 
 
 
Acts 2
37   Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

5 posted on 06/30/2003 5:41:01 PM PDT by Radix
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To: sweetliberty
If the 9th circus does this for real then I DECLARE THEM UNCONSTITUIONAL/NULL & VOID(of course I know about Jury Nullification...Nothing will piss off a "judge" more than those words in a "courtroom"
6 posted on 06/30/2003 5:41:01 PM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: wirestripper
"What brought this on?"

I suppose listening to one too many liberals talk s**t and seeing these degenerate faggots parading around the streets of every city in America celebrating yet another victory over the Constitution; while most of our lawmakers care little what the majority of us believe and continue to pander to the lowest common denominator.

7 posted on 06/30/2003 5:42:42 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: wirestripper
Hysteria, and a morbid obsession with the sex lives of other Americans.
8 posted on 06/30/2003 5:44:43 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (yes, that was my post that was deleted - I guess its OK to put up Fred Phelps queer bashes, though)
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To: brewcrew
"Revolution."

What do you think it would take to actually push most of us to that point?

9 posted on 06/30/2003 5:45:00 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Radix
What is fanatical about that?
10 posted on 06/30/2003 5:45:28 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Gun control might do it.
11 posted on 06/30/2003 5:46:41 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: sweetliberty
Here is the answer......I liked it from the first time I read it...I have dreamed for a long time of the Free and independent Republic of Texas....It was once....it can be again.

It's Time to Part Company

12 posted on 06/30/2003 5:46:52 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty
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To: ChefKeith
Well, I actually thought about modifying the cartoon to read "Supreme Court", but I am not comfortable with changing someone's copyrighted work. But the point is still the same. They're all different heads of the same beast.
13 posted on 06/30/2003 5:47:57 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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What do you think it would take to actually push most of us to that point?

I've entertained that question for most of the last decade, and I'm still not sure. I am becoming more sure that most people cannot be pushed to that point becasue they just don't care enough about anything.

But as a good friend once said: In the meantime, I'll practice my marksmanship.

14 posted on 06/30/2003 5:49:00 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: sweetliberty
An economic collapse would get most Americans to finally pull their heads out of their A$&, and social liberals and self proclaimed economic conservatives will have plenty to worry about when this happens.
15 posted on 06/30/2003 5:49:21 PM PDT by JNB
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To: sweetliberty
Oh!I see...........

Well, I don't think they have a darn thing to celebrate. The two guys who got off do, but I don't think the gay agenda was advanced. It was not hurt, but I cannot see any advance. They are misinterpreting what the majority of the justices on the winning side of the case were trying to get across.

Unfortunately they failed to be clear enough. There will be another case and I will watch that one with interest. A challenge will come that they want to judge and it will likely be next year.

16 posted on 06/30/2003 5:49:49 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: sweetliberty

You might try some ideologue fringe militia nutcase forum instead. Most of the FReepers who have given a lot of thought to sedition, survivalism, and despair are not posting here anymore.

17 posted on 06/30/2003 5:52:02 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere?

No. Keep your head down and have plenty of 500 rd. bricks of .22 L.R. on hand- The wampum of the post apocalypse.

18 posted on 06/30/2003 5:54:27 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: B.O. Plenty
I seem to recall reading that before. Seems at least a viable option, but the problem is that it would require secession, and besides the fact that many American patriots are resistant to ever considering it, there is also the fact that the remaining government would never stand for the loss of revenue that would ensue. I am not dismissing it, just pointing out that it would have serious ramifications. While the article talks about peaceful separation without secession, I think that would be impossible in the long run for the simple reason that we would still be bound by the increasingly unconstitutional tyranny of the federal courts.
19 posted on 06/30/2003 5:55:35 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: brewcrew
You are so right. This country has fought for independence and freedom before and probably would do so again.
20 posted on 06/30/2003 5:56:08 PM PDT by FloridaBoy
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