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Couple to have first 'Internet baby'
Evening Standard ^ | 27 June 2003 | Elaine Galloway

Posted on 06/27/2003 8:54:31 AM PDT by jgrubbs

Couple to have first 'Internet baby' By Elaine Galloway, Evening Standard 27 June 2003

Britain's first known DIY internet baby will be born next month, it was revealed today. A married couple from the South-East conceived the child using sperm bought from a website.

After paying a fee to browse the site, they were able to check criteria such as race, eye colour, height and weight of prospective donors, as well as details about their background, educational history and artistic ability.

They were then sent a home ovulation kit. When the woman, who is in her twenties, was at her most fertile, the website was alerted. A sample was collected from the donor and rushed to their home by courier. The couple were then left to carry out the procedure themselves.

News of the impending birth is sure to cause controversy. Supporters say the site provides a vital service for women who need a sperm donor to conceive but don't wish to use a conventional clinic. Some clinics will not treat women who are single, above a certain age or in a lesbian relationship.

But critics say selling sperm for commercial gain is unacceptable as is denying the child the right to know its father.

The Standard can reveal that 16 women are currently carrying babies conceived with sperm bought on the site Man Not Included, which was launched 12 months ago. The birth will be the first and the couple have asked not to be identified.

But another couple who are also expecting a child after using the site have gone public.

Jamie, 26, from Liverpool, turned to the service after deciding she wanted children with her partner of four years, Sarah, and getting no help from her GP.

She said: "We had been thinking about having children for about two years, but I was starting to think it would never happen."

The couple registered immediately they discovered the website.

Jamie said: "It was fantastic. Everyone was really helpful and we found the whole process simple. Everything happened when they said it would and doing everything at home meant it was private and comfortable."

Jamie conceived on her first attempt and is expecting a child in January. She said: "It is amazing. I jumped around the house when I found out and Sarah just sat in shock.

"We know that some people will be against what we've done and they are entitled to their opinions. As long as our child is loved and does not want for anything, I can't see how it is wrong."

Sarah, 31, said: "We're so pleased we didn't have to go through a lot of trauma. We always knew we wanted to be a family and this means the world to us."

Jamie added: "We've got the support of both of our families and there will be plenty of men in its life so the baby will not be deprived of a male role model."

Man Not Included was launched in July 2002 and was initially intended for lesbians and single women, who are often excluded from fertility treatment.

Founder John Gonzales, a 40-year-old former City headhunter, said that more than 5,000 women have registered on the site since then and more than 800 men are listed as donors. About 60 women a month decide to go ahead with the service after registering.

The basic service costs £830. For £1,365, sperm from the donor can also be frozen to provide biological siblings in future years.

But Josephine Quintavalle from the campaign group Comment on Reproductive Ethics said: "A child has every right to know its father. Sperm donation has been going on for years but there is something incredibly crass and commercial about this. The rights of the children are being ignored in the interests of selfish adults."


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KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; internet; lesbians; sperm
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ManNotIncluded.com is the Sperm Donor Web site for Lesbian Couples and single women.

http://www.mannotincluded.com/

1 posted on 06/27/2003 8:54:32 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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" denying the child the right to know its father"

Who invented that "right"?

2 posted on 06/27/2003 8:58:56 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: jgrubbs
"there will be plenty of men in its life so the baby will not be deprived of a male role model"

I can just imagine. Do they mean Mark Morford and his party pals?

3 posted on 06/27/2003 9:00:36 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (What's the HTML command to delete automatically generated parentheses?)
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To: jgrubbs
MNI has become the UK’s first fertility organisation to accept gay donors.
4 posted on 06/27/2003 9:03:01 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
She said: "We had been thinking about having children for about two years,

Since when do two women say "WE" want to have children?

5 posted on 06/27/2003 9:14:27 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: jgrubbs
MNI has become the UK’s first fertility organisation to accept gay donors.

But I thought gayness was never genetic, always a learned behavior. Why should that matter?

6 posted on 06/27/2003 9:14:46 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: jgrubbs
"We're so pleased we didn't have to go through a lot of trauma.

I guess they mean it would be traumatic to have heterosexual sex in order to conceive.

7 posted on 06/27/2003 9:16:37 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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" denying the child the right to know its father"

>Who invented that "right"? <

Nature and Nature's author. Of course, in the animal kingdom the cubs sometimes don't know their father, and sometimes he might eat them.

8 posted on 06/27/2003 9:17:49 AM PDT by First Amendment
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"We're so pleased we didn't have to go through a lot of trauma...

(But we don't mind putting a child through 'a lot of' trauma -- for his whole life....)

9 posted on 06/27/2003 9:25:16 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (What's the HTML command to delete automatically generated parentheses?)
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To: jgrubbs
This article brings to mind one of my favorite Beavis and Butthead episodes -


"There's plenty more where that came from! Huh huh huh!!!!"
10 posted on 06/27/2003 9:27:17 AM PDT by adam_az
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Having a favorite Beavis and Butthead episode doesn't speak well for you.
11 posted on 06/27/2003 10:00:14 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: jgrubbs
I suggest they name the little bastard "Tralphast Papindowski Get'a . net" !
12 posted on 06/27/2003 10:05:53 AM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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And they will name it after the sperm donor...............Bill.
13 posted on 06/27/2003 10:42:09 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: jgrubbs
A sample was collected from the donor and rushed to their home by courier.

Ya know... I used to be a carrier myself!


The basic service costs £830.

Although MY services were a LOT cheaper than this!!!

14 posted on 06/27/2003 10:49:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Any misspellings are caused by a sticky keyboard!! [that darn ol' Coke!])
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To: pram
You owe me a new keyboard!!!!!!!!
15 posted on 06/27/2003 10:50:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Any misspellings are caused by a sticky keyboard!! [that darn ol' Coke!])
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OMG, I thought you were joking about the name of that site. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!

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16 posted on 06/27/2003 10:54:08 AM PDT by Jen (Have you seen a Spastic Lizard on the loose around here?)
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To: pram
Having a favorite Beavis and Butthead episode doesn't speak well for you.

Uhhhh.... Shut up, bunghole!
17 posted on 06/27/2003 10:54:10 AM PDT by adam_az
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To: jgrubbs
There have been a number of banks selling internationally over the Internet for several years -- used by infertile married couples working with fertility clinics, and everybody else. It seems highly unlikely that this will be the first such birth in Britain. I think MNI is just looking for some free advertising.
18 posted on 06/27/2003 2:40:02 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: adam_az
Adam how about infamous Great Corliono episode where Beavis had the sugar high after each that much candy

That classic or I remember Lizard baseball episode I go way back in da day on Beavis and Butthead
19 posted on 06/27/2003 3:16:30 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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" denying the child the right to know its father"

Who invented that "right"?

It doesn't exist. But what does exist is the right for a child or the mother, 18 or 19 years after the fact, to subpoena records in order to identify the father & then sue for 18 years of back child support. I would NEVER "donate" to such a scheme - too many things can go wrong.

20 posted on 06/27/2003 3:28:27 PM PDT by BearCub
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