Split Decision: Supreme court upholds grad policy, strikes Undergrad

MSNBC Live | 06-23-03

[arasina]

President Bush did NOT "wimp out on this one" --- he filed a whatchamacallit legal thingy (affidavit?) with the SCOTUS in SUPPORT OF THE SUIT against U of M Law School.

You see something bad in everything Dubya does. Why don't you see if you can get your idol to run against him in 2004?

[goldstategop]

Well I am opposed to preferences AND quotas. But that's me, I have a preference for setting it straight. Its all hair-splitting to me but then again I am a layman, not a lawyer. You should read Rabelais nonsenical language in Gargantua & Pantagruel. Things haven't changed that much among the pendants since the Middle Ages.

[ewing]

Where are Rita 'Schepcial Sauces' when we need them!

[dogbyte12]

They refuse to come out and state clearly whether racial preferences are constitutional.

They left it open to challenge in the middle. Basically, anything more radical than the U of M undergrad policy is void. Anything less radical than the U of M grad policy is acceptable. Anything in the middle is actually in the void.

It would be interesting to see a policy that fits between these two being taken to the court and hammered out. But logically speaking, these are just two outside boundary posts now, and not much else more, until we read the majority opinions. When they are available, somebody please link them.

[xrp]

My skin color is sorta amber-apricot.

[dixiechick2000]

Thanks for the ping!

I heard earlier about the law school decision. Bummer...

Good news about the undergrad program, though.

[Lysander]

I've considered becoming black. What if you just changed your racial categorization on all goobermintal forms and such? How could they prove you weren't 1/128th or some such?

Good issue! We will get racial purity testing next in response to that trick. Adolph would be proud of where America went.

[deport]

For once, shut up.

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Let him holler his little head off and show the world what he really is.... a fool with no core values as he has proclaimed that come May 2004 he will support President Bush for reelection.

He'll support someone he calls a Socialist, UN Man, BS, wimp, etc. What does that say about the little shows values? He has none.....

Let the world see.....

[TLBSHOW]

President Bush did NOT "wimp out on this one" --- he filed a whatchamacallit legal thingy (affidavit?) with the SCOTUS in SUPPORT OF THE SUIT against U of M Law School.

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Are you sure?

[ModernDayCato]

Showy,

Don't let the usual suspects get to you. As soon as I read that O'Connor wrote the majority opinion I knew we were screwed. I also read a while back (I believe it was in this forum) that the Bush justice department did a crappy job fighting this one, and Ted Olson wasn't giving it his all.

This is very depressing. Diversity is what is wiping out our culture and will lead to the destruction of this country. I came to to the conclusion that I'll probably die before it gets serious, but the generation after me is f--ked.

The Bushbots and other faces of the new Republican party remind me of the Vichy French. Hopefully someday they'll wise up, but it will most likely be too late.

On the other hand, this just means that there are going to be a bunch of dumber than average minority lawyers out there instead of plain dumb white folk lawyers.

The steady chipping away at the bedrock of this country's liberty is a catastrophe.

[Alberta's Child]

What a great day for America. The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down UM's undergraduate affirmative action program, and upholds a graduate school admission policy that enables more minorities and women to pursue careers in the least-respected profession in the country.

[finnman69]

Point system unconstitutional!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court issued a complex, split decision today on a pair of affirmative action cases involving the University of Michigan's admissions policy.

The high court upheld the university's use of race in law school admissions, but said the use of a point system which considers race in undergraduate admissions was unconstitutional.

[hchutch]

From what I understand, the important part was getting the undergrad preferences tossed. I mean 20 points for skin color/race and only 12 for a pefect SAT score. This was discriminating.

Burden of proof is on the accusers. In the case of the undergrad students, they had that proof. The law school complainants, IMHO, didn't really have that much proof.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I agree... shouldn't the decision be read fully, before we all start to claim that the sky is falling?

[sweetliberty]

"They struck down that points on the applications"

Well, thank God for that, but the whole idea of legalized discrimination against any race (even whites) is repugnant, regardless of the level. The whole notion of diversity as a good thing is a fallacy, in my opinion. I'm not saying that we should all be the same, but diversity should only go as far as natural inclination moves it. It should not be artificially acted on by an outside force. Imagine the outrage that would ensue if any white preson were to suggest (in any context) that we should get extra points for being white.

[aristeides]

So the court ruled that diversity is a compelling state interest. That is a giant step backwards.

[dogbyte12]

Let him holler his little head off and show the world what he really is.... a fool with no core values as he has proclaimed that come May 2004 he will support President Bush for reelection.

I think it has been obvious for several years now, but that is just me. Unless of course, you think "Weeper rat, Commie Traitor Bush sell out, RUSh Right" is a logical core value statement.

[Reagan Man]

To TLBSHOW, the glass is always half empty. PresBush and his supporters see the same glass as half full. This is a big victory for opponents of affirmative action. Conservatives should be overjoyed.

[Howlin]

Another ruling: SC ruled that Congress can rule that libraries CAN put filters on their computers!!!!!

[finnman69]

Also..point system IS unconstitutional.