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Australian troops show uranium sickness signs, claims expert
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | June 23 2003

Posted on 06/23/2003 6:51:11 AM PDT by dead

Australian servicemen and women who served in the recent Iraq war were reporting symptoms of uranium sickness, a United States nuclear weapons expert said today.

Dr Douglas Rokke is a former US Army nuclear health physicist and was formerly the Pentagon's expert on the health effects of depleted uranium ammunition.

Speaking in Melbourne today, Dr Rokke said Iraqi women and children and American and Iraqi military personnel had reported respiratory illnesses and rashes after the recent conflict, and he had also been told of Australian servicemen and women with similar symptoms.

"That's the reports I received from the US Army medical department. That's something that needs to be verified and looked into," he said.

"When American soldiers are sick and the Iraqis are sick there's nothing that says an Australian soldier is going to be isolated when he goes through those areas and he is not going to become ill.

During operation Desert Storm in 1991 Dr Rokke led a team assigned to clean up uranium contamination caused by friendly fire.

"What we saw can be described in only three words - Oh my God! The wounds were horrible, the contamination was extensive," he said.

"Although myself and my team members wore respiratory and skin protection, that protection we know today does not provide any adequate protection against the inhalation, the ingestion, the absorption of uranium compounds."

He said he now suffered rashes, respiratory problems, kidney problems and cataracts related to his exposure to uranium.

Dr Rokke is in Australia to speak against the use of depleted uranium weapons, which he describes as a crime against humanity, creating a toxicological nightmare.

He is campaigning for the outlawing of depleted uranium munitions, medical care for those who have been exposed to uranium and a clean-up of exposed environments.

He will speak at public meetings and meet government officials and returned service groups while in Australia.

"What I have learned from my work is that uranium munitions must be banned," Dr Rokke said.

"When we can no longer clean up the environment and we can no longer provide medical care for anybody that's exposed, then that weapon must never be used in conflict."

Jacob Grech, of the OzPeace Network, said while Australia did not use depleted uranium munitions, the country exported between 2500 and 3000 tonnes of uranium to the United States each year for energy.

"It's the waste energy products that is used in the manufacture of these munitions.

"From the very start, before they are even made, Australia and the Australian government is complicit in the production of these weapons."

"We'd like our government as a bare minimum to put Australian service veterans from the first and second Gulf wars, as well as Afghanistan, through rigorous testing to get a baseline study of exactly what the health effects are of depleted uranium and other chemical toxins ... and treat them," Mr Grech said.

"So far our government has been furphying, it's been releasing reports which parrot the Pentagon line six to 12 months later, it's been in a state of denial."

Mr Grech said he had not yet had reports of service personnel from the most recent conflict suffering uranium sickness, but there were a lot of veterans from the first Gulf war displaying symptoms.

"I think what we are going to see with Australian returned service people from the Gulf and Afghanistan is 20 years down the track exactly what happened with agent orange in Vietnam," Mr Grech said.

AAP


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; uranium

1 posted on 06/23/2003 6:51:11 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead
Couldn't be some of the nasty stuff Saddam had? Naaaaahhhhh.
2 posted on 06/23/2003 6:59:14 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: dead
It's called DEPLETED uranium for a reason, isn't it?

This stuff doesn't hang in the atmosphere for long, it falls to the ground fairly quickly. I used to have a bookmark for a site that had a very detailed report that did a decent job of documenting the rates and doses that one might encounter and how long it would take to get into ground water.

This isn't to deny heavy metal toxic exposure as one might get from lead or similar substances, but the idea that DU is an ionizing radiation hazard and causes a multitude of unrelated symptoms is far fetched.

3 posted on 06/23/2003 7:03:40 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye
It's called DEPLETED uranium for a reason, isn't it?

It's still radioactive - it simply has had almost all the U-235 removed, which decays at a faster rate than U-238.

4 posted on 06/23/2003 7:05:04 AM PDT by dirtboy (Not enough words in FR taglines to adequately describe the dimensions of Hillary's thunderous thighs)
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To: dead
Ahhhhhhhh Hell, here we go again....
5 posted on 06/23/2003 7:05:35 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: dead
I don't believe it, there aren't any WMD in Iraq! (/sarcasm off)
6 posted on 06/23/2003 7:16:48 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: dirtboy
But not much more than normal background radiation.

Heck, aren't some carbon isotopes radioactive?

8 posted on 06/23/2003 7:20:04 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: ohiofarmboy
Don't believe everything you read.
9 posted on 06/23/2003 7:21:14 AM PDT by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
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To: All
After seeing the dust storms that the troops endured for days on end is it
any surprise that there is an increase of respiratory problems? Some of
these guys and gals lived in the same clothes for a month and are you stunned
to hear that they have rashes on their skin?

As far as I know, DU ammunition was not used in Afghanistan, but if, if
troops who were in Af-stan are experiencing problems then would it make sense to
seek another cause for their medical condition. And if these are the same sort
of problems that the troops in Iraq face then it would rule out DU. It does no good
for the veterans to give them a false diagnosis, in fact it is the worst disservice
possible.

This ex general must have been posted at Area 51, where visiting aliens performed
experiments of a sexual nature on him.
10 posted on 06/23/2003 7:28:28 AM PDT by DeepDish
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To: ohiofarmboy
These 'DU made me sick' stories pop up every so often. Some people want to make DU the culprit for every malignancy, unexplained illness, cluster of illnesses, and birth defect that occurs in an area after military operations.

What they fail to accept is that toxins need a route of entry, a toxic dose exposure, and that toxins target organs or systems, not just general health. Also, birth defects require specific exposures at specific times in gestation, not just any exposure at any time.

IMO, this is just more DU hysteria.

11 posted on 06/23/2003 7:28:50 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: ohiofarmboy
Depleted Uranium in munitions is a HUGE advantage. Likely looking at a minimum of dozens more killed in the last war without it.

And like others have said, don't believe everything you read about it. It's become a hobby horse for anti-American groups and the media isn't exactly balanced in reporting on the science on it.

And, of course, as anyone who carefully researches the issue knows, there's no such thing as "Gulf War Syndrome" from the first Gulf War, hence DU couldn't have caused it.
12 posted on 06/23/2003 7:29:57 AM PDT by John H K
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To: John H K
Oops. I forgot to put quotes around ex general in my last post, sorry all.

The DU controversy is a side branch of the anti-nuclear movement. As anyone who
watches these people in action can see, careful adherence to the facts and
meticulous research are not options listed in their playbooks.
13 posted on 06/23/2003 7:43:20 AM PDT by DeepDish (I love DU threads, they're really good science fiction, and free)
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To: John H K
JHK, I agree with your position. Prior to the war in Iraq the soldiers in US Armored units spent a lot of time around depleted uranium and didn't have health problems.

As you said, it is likely the problems have stemmed from the fertile imaginations of the anti-US crowd.

14 posted on 06/23/2003 7:51:44 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Eagle Eye
These 'DU made me sick' stories pop up every so often.

Same credability group as 'global warming', freon base ozone depletion, etc.

15 posted on 06/23/2003 7:52:04 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: ohiofarmboy
Must insert my two kopeck's worth in here, Ohio farm lad.

You can make moral appeals until your tongue rots and falls out. The only argument that carries weight is self-interest. When the Powers That Be learn it's to their disadvantage ro utilize DU, it'll be dropped from their hands just as quickly as - well, like radioactive waste . . . ;-D
16 posted on 06/23/2003 9:22:33 AM PDT by NestorMakhno
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To: ohiofarmboy
Yes, I just hope a reasonable way can be found around the whole dilemma. Iran is too shaky right now to be much of a threat against anyone - unless backed into a corner.

Let's hope the hubris over Iraq doesn't taint the opportunities here.
18 posted on 06/27/2003 8:13:54 PM PDT by NestorMakhno
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