[xrp]

Amazing that the loser Clark once served as a general in the United States Armed Forces.

United States FOUNDED on the principle of PROGRESSIVE TAXATION???

[joesnuffy]

He's just another globalist and third wayer
but then so is Newt G Bill C and Tony the B

[VoiceOfBruck]

That line struck me as sort of a throw-away speak-before-thinking line. If he actually thought about it, he'd realize how preposterous it is.

That having been said, I wouldn't want a president or VP who speaks before thinking.

[BOBTHENAILER]

I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation.”

Clark has as much chance of becoming Pres as does my dog Clancy.

[templar]

I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation.”

The sad thing is that many people will hear this statement and believe it. Americans have been pretty much conditioned to accept the statements of those high places as being based on truth.

[Blood of Tyrants]

The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.


2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".


3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.


4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.


5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).


6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) madated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.


7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.


8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920s, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.


9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.



10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call "public" schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education". Click here to learn how it all came about and here to see if YOU are a practicing Communist.

[AdmSmith]

Do you really mean that progressive taxation is communism?
(I would say that it is insanity but not communism) If you go back a few years time to the days of the Communist bloc you would be surprised to know that they actually did not pay any tax at all.

I have to add visible tax, asd the state stole their money before it was it was paid as a (low) salary.

Russia after the downfall of the communist party was a grab for free economy, with hardly no one, at least not the wealthiest paying any tax. The poor bastards that had to pay any tax was the one an the lowest level. (If they got any salary.)

It is a complicated world, today in Russia thay pay a flat rate of 13 % or something similar in income tax.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Rocket Scientist Russert let that remark slide by without a follow up like "Wesley, you moron, do you really believe the crap that comes out of your mouth?"

[zip]

..I have a little reading assignment for you. It’s a document written in 1848 by two characters named Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. It’s called the “Manifesto of the Communist Party.” “Communist Manifesto” for short.

I would suggest he read "The Constitution of the United States of America" since he apparently hasn't heard of it before.

[tdadams]

What a riot! This country was most certainly not founded on the principle of progressive taxation. Maybe he thinks he's in Sweden. This country didn't even have an income tax until early last century.

[hgro]

Clark is the shovel man in the weazel parade.

[stevio]

As a side bar, the military traditionally has conservative values. If it went to the dark side, as with so many other countries, it would be all over.

[Question_Assumptions]

Taxes should be progressive to some degree. All of the leading Flat Income Tax plans include a standard deduction and even some of the NRST plans include a poverty level tax rebate. This essentially makes all of these tax reform proposals "progresive", if you look at the real percentage in taxes that a person making (or spending, in the case of the NRST) $12,000, $50,000, or $100,000 pays, the higher number pays a higher percentage (the rate approaches the "flat" rate).

Why is this the case? Because the less surplus income a peson has, the less they are able to afford to pay taxes. But they key is to avoid brackets and to keep the rate increases moderate at all levels, so as not to punish success. Rebates and deductions are pretty ideal in this regard.

The big downside with letting the poor off the hook for taxes, however, is that they benefit from the taxes paid by others, which simply encourages them to want more entitlements. Sometimes, I think it is too bad that we've got an obsession with letting everyone vote, even if they don't understand anything about government, contribute nothing to its operation, and can't find their own country on a globe.

[Cicero]

The stated Communist principle is: From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.

[DoctorMichael]

Bump.

[Eternal_Bear]

Gee, I thought America was founded on the principles of a massive central government and affirmative action.

[OXENinFLA]

bump!

[jimbo123]

[yoe]

This PPP and FOB and Hill, is just what this country doesn't need, another limp wristed appeaser of terrorism. His life has been spent much like Kofie's giving and going to parties and on the welcoming committees at the right place at the right times. He is somewhat affected, i.e., fey in the theatrical sense; little starch in the spine; certainly not a leader - where does Mrs. Clinton fit into the equation?

[alrea]

Amazing that the loser Clark once served as a general in the United States Armed Forces. United States FOUNDED on the principle of PROGRESSIVE TAXATION???

The US military is a glorious organization that actually has principles so that the misguided can't cause disruptions or people getting shot.

So Kerry is going to turn control of the armed forces over to the United Nations. Hillary is going to turn the health care system over to your friendly local health inspector. Clark thinks the US was founded on the principle of Progressive taxation.

John Edwards believes that a large percentage of the US gross national product must be turned over to high school seniors, plaintiffs and their trial lawyers.

Al Sharpton is planning to turn over a percentage of the treasury to all Americans of at least 1/12 African descent.

The line forms at the rear folks.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt