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Democrats Split on Challenging Iraq Arms Hunt
The New York Times ^ | 06/14/03 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 06/13/2003 8:47:39 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, June 13 — The war in Iraq is once again dividing the Democratic Party, with Congressional leaders and presidential candidates struggling over how strongly to challenge President Bush about the failure so far to find biological or chemical weapons.

Many party leaders say they are hopeful that questions about the weapons can be turned into a powerful political issue. But others are concerned that it may backfire, given the strong public support for Mr. Bush's war policies, the public's apparent indifference to the absence of weapons and the prospect that such weapons could turn up any day.

Some Democrats asserted today that attacking Mr. Bush on the weapons question could undercut one of the president's greatest strengths going into next year's election, his success as commander in chief. Should no weapons be found, they said, Democrats could challenge Mr. Bush's credibility on issues beyond the Iraqi conflict.

One presidential candidate, Senator Bob Graham of Florida, went so far as to compare Mr. Bush and his fellow Republicans to Richard M. Nixon. After Republicans announced they would hold closed-door hearings on the weapons issue, Mr. Graham accused the administration of "another shameful and dangerous display of secrecy," and suggested it had manipulated intelligence "to sell the decision to go to war."

On Capitol Hill, Democrats who were largely silent during the war have begun to challenge Mr. Bush. Some, like Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, have suggested that administration officials may have embellished intelligence reports during the buildup to war in Iraq.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, said in an interview that "serious questions have been raised that need to be answered."

But other prominent Democrats, including such presidential contenders as Senators John Kerry of Massachusetts, John Edwards of North Carolina and Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, have struck a far more cautious tone, with their aides warning that such attacks could end up hurting the Democratic Party, depending on how events play out.

Several polls have indicated that the public remains largely supportive of the war, and that people are not particularly concerned that the weapons that Mr. Bush said would be found have not yet been located.

Some Democrats who supported the war, notably Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, said they still thought it was likely that weapons would be found.

"The right tone is one of serious concerns but no allegations," said a senior adviser to one of the presidential candidates who, given the sensitivity of the issue, spoke on the condition that he and his candidate not be named. "I think we do ourselves a disservice to start screaming conspiracy. Let's give them the time to search.

Of Mr. Bush, the adviser said that "if we take a run on this guy and they find them, he'll come up at us stronger than ever."

In Congress, Republicans gave Democrats an opening this week by announcing that an inquiry into the administration's Iraqi intelligence-gathering would be conducted largely behind closed doors. Some Democratic lawmakers pushed for open hearings that would, in a Washington tradition, create headlines during the slow months of July and August.

"Questions have arisen about who knew what, when and why," said Nancy Pelosi of California, the House Democratic leader, who was an outspoken opponent of the war. "In order for us to have what we need to make decisions, it is important that these questions be aired as publicly as possible."

These developments illustrate the way the war in Iraq, even with the formal conflict declared to be largely over, continues to bedevil the Democratic Party. Democrats said that at least two of their presidential candidates, Mr. Graham and Dr. Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont who built his campaign on a platform of opposing the war, have a lot riding on whether the administration, as both men have suggested, manipulated intelligence about biological and chemical weapons in Iraq.

At first, Dr. Dean aggressively challenged Mr. Bush's credibility on the issue. But he has since held back as pressure on the administration has built in Congress. "Howard Dean said for a long time that the president didn't make the case for war in Iraq," said Steve McMahon, one of Dr. Dean's senior advisers. "Now the question is, was the case the president made based on facts or ideology?"

Some of Dr. Dean's supporters said he would be vindicated if no weapons were found. At the same time, Mr. Graham, who is the latest entry into the presidential race, has attacked Mr. Bush's credibility with a directness that has startled some rivals, who argued that Mr. Graham would be in political difficulty if weapons were uncovered.

Nonetheless, a number of Democrats, including an adviser to Mr. Graham, said they believed that the uncertainty surrounding the weapons could fundamentally damage Mr. Bush.

"The administration's efforts to rally public support for the war at the front end led to the expectation that at the back end we would find weapons of mass destruction pretty quickly," said Geoffrey Garin, Mr. Graham's pollster. "So to some extent the administration is being hoisted on its own petard."

But the risks for the Democrats are high. Mr. Bush has dismissed suggestions that he manipulated information, and Republicans were quick to try to paint Democrats as unpatriotic for raising such questions.

In announcing the closed-door hearings, Senator Pat Roberts, the Kansas Republican who is chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused Democrats of using the war for political gain. And Senator Bill Frist, the Republican leader, said in an interview: "I think it's political posturing. Democrats are politicizing a very important issue."

Democrats, in keeping with tradition and fearing they would be labeled unpatriotic, refrained from criticizing the administration during the war. That has changed with most American forces out of harm's way.

Aides to several of the Democratic presidential candidates, as well as other Democrats, said the failure to find the weapons could provide opportunities to question Mr. Bush's integrity, which has been seen as one of his greatest strengths.

"There has been a frustration in the Democratic Party that this president doesn't seem to be held to the same standards that either his predecessor or his predecessor's vice president were held to," said Anita Dunn, a Democratic consultant.

In the months leading up to the war, administration officials said they had intelligence indicating that Iraq had ties to terrorism and had made efforts to develop biological and chemical weapons. This week Mr. Bush said he was "absolutely convinced" that proof would be found that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons programs, even as the Pentagon released a study suggesting that some intelligence analysts were uncertain about that.

Given the overwhelming public support of the war, even Democrats said it was hardly certain that opinions would turn against the administration if no weapons were found.

In March, before the invasion began, a joint survey by Democratic and Republican pollsters found that 41 percent of the public believed that the war would "mostly be a success" if Saddam Hussein were removed from office but no weapons were found. That sentiment has grown since Baghdad fell, in no small part because people believe the weapons will be found, said Jeremy Rosner, a Democratic pollster who helped conduct the survey.

Andrew Kohut, director of the nonpartisan Pew Research Center, said a majority of the public did not believe that the Bush administration had deliberately misled them. "There is really not a credibility issue at this point," Mr. Kohut said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: wmd

1 posted on 06/13/2003 8:47:40 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
If I am not mistaken, most Dems on the Intelligence Committee have never embraced this, period. Very telling.
2 posted on 06/13/2003 8:51:41 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Pokey78
The Demos would defend Hitler if it would get them elected.
3 posted on 06/13/2003 8:52:04 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Pokey78
The Democraps will always stick to their POLITICS of FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED! That is their very essence!
4 posted on 06/13/2003 8:54:00 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Pokey78
If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People:

Since we haven't found WMD in Iraq yet, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd (petrilli) are claiming that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The story being floated now is that Saddam had no WMD (or almost none) and that the Bush administration lied about the WMD threat.

Well, if the Bush administration lied, there sure are a lot of Democrats who told the same lies since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples of what I'm talking about...

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
5 posted on 06/13/2003 8:54:54 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40
To all the people demanding WMD in Iraq...
Get over it who cares lets help the kids in Iran next.
And help people in Israel.

It would be nice if the WMD people would focus on important things...

(not ment for anyone on FR but people still yapping about WMD such as CNN and other clowns...)

my 3c worth(inflation/deflation economy bump)
6 posted on 06/13/2003 9:07:37 PM PDT by Flavius (I)
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To: Pokey78
Not even the most vehemently opposed to war democrats ever even once said that they thought that there were no WMDs. This attack by the democrats is transparently partisan, and they will pay for it.

My hope is the democrats come even more at Bush, and then the weapons will be discovered and they will look even more so look like a party that is not trustworthy when it comes to the job of protecting this country.
7 posted on 06/13/2003 9:10:03 PM PDT by republicman
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To: Pokey78
Of Mr. Bush, the adviser said that "if we take a run on this guy and they find them, he'll come up at us stronger than ever."

Dag...they are learning. They are like monkeys, zap them 30 times when they do the same thing and then and only then will they finally realize their mistakes.

8 posted on 06/13/2003 9:10:04 PM PDT by smith288 (The government doesn't need to save me from myself. Im quite capable thank you.)
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To: South40
Great series of quotes, South40.
9 posted on 06/13/2003 9:21:30 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Pokey78
Nonetheless, a number of Democrats,...said they believed that the uncertainty surrounding the weapons could fundamentally damage Mr. Bush.

Their circus could fundamentally damage our ability to fight an enemy who wants to kill us in our own homes. Have a number of Democrats given any thought to this?

10 posted on 06/14/2003 7:26:33 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: South40
Terrific information. Thanks for posting these quotes.
11 posted on 06/14/2003 7:28:45 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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