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1 posted on 06/12/2003 8:28:12 PM PDT by mhking
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2 posted on 06/12/2003 8:28:32 PM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
"was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, indicating it was retreating when Flynn pulled the trigger"

"Yeah, but Sarge, I thought the bear was reaching for a gun."
3 posted on 06/12/2003 8:31:53 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: mhking
I didnt even know that there were Bears in New Jersy.
4 posted on 06/12/2003 8:33:35 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: mhking
When a 400 pound bear is in your yard it's not exactly like you're out there hunting illegally. Any wild beast that big is a danger to life and limb, even if it is walking away. It could turn and charge at any time, it could come back later and kill you, it could saunter over to a neighbor's yard and kill somebody else. What is this darn country coming to when you can't shoot a huge bear who decides to pay your property a little visit?
5 posted on 06/12/2003 8:35:03 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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The bear was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, indicating it was retreating when Flynn pulled the trigger

'Friend of Frank' ping.

6 posted on 06/12/2003 8:35:34 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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Evidently, next time we have to wait 'till it's in our living room

Or, shoot it on the lawn and then drag it inside.

7 posted on 06/12/2003 8:39:16 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: mhking
...was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, indicating that it was retreating when Flynn pulled the trigger.

That doesn't mean the bear would not circle round and perhaps come back when it perceived there was less of a threat -- like maybe when a child was playing alone in the yard while eating a hot-dog or something equally as palletable to a bear?

A black bear in my backyard? I'd have shot the beast coming or going, and called it self-defense out of fear it would come back when me or mine were less vigilant.

11 posted on 06/12/2003 8:53:03 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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The bear was shot in the rear at a range of about 15 yards, indicating it was retreating when Flynn pulled the trigger, DEP Commissioner Bradley Campbell said.

Close enough for me - front or ass end.

What do these clowns want, headlines like - "Bear terrorizes household - kills 2 pets, mauls son - in critical condition. But the bear is safe!"

I have killed two dogs - with my gun! - gulp!

Both times, walk out the front door and there is MR IMA BAD ASS dog - confrontation city.

The trusty 20 Ga. (00 load) was the quick and final "solution" to that issue. Cops had no problem -stray dog - attitude, etc.

I don't fault the home owner one bit. Wild animal = should not be here / my property / threatening behavior (defined as a bit more than 15 yards proximity to me) = BANG!

This guy is getting screwed by the enviro-nazi's.

LVM

12 posted on 06/12/2003 8:53:42 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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A homeowner who shot a large bear that was drawn to his house by the smell of sizzling pork chops


Too bad he didn't drop it, he already had the grill fired
up. Yum yum.
13 posted on 06/12/2003 9:04:23 PM PDT by DeepDish (Punctuationalist Alert: europe and france are not capitalized purposely, they don't rate it)
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A friend of mine that has a cabin in the Rockies in Colorado had a bear completely tear up his new jeep. I mean the seats , rag top and bit through two tires and ruined them. He went to complain to the fish and game and he told them he got a gun and some ammo and was going to kill the bear the next time he saw it. The F.& G said if he did they would arrest him and put him in jail with a stiff fine. They said don't kill the bear and we will pay for all the damages on your jeep. And guess what , they did. Your tax dollars at work in Colorado.
14 posted on 06/12/2003 9:09:38 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: mhking
Evidently, next time we have to wait 'till it's in our living room.

I'm not sure even that would get them off the hook.

Now - running the risk of sounding trigger happy........ My opinion (and not based in law in any form) is that if a 400lb bear comes into my year for any reason, other than I have intentionally drawn the bear there by baiting it in or feeding it regularly, should be a fair target. I don't care if the guy shot the bear in the butt or the head - it was 15 feet from him when he shot it - way too close - and IN HIS YARD. And from the sound of things - this is not the first time this or other bears have been in their yard. I belive there is another story posted about a bear actually breaking in to someone's kitchen....let me see.....A hungry black bear barges in to kitchen .

If the DNR wants to protect the bears, then they need to trap them and move 'em to where they have less chance of getting in someone's yard where they are very much NOT welcome.

21 posted on 06/12/2003 10:24:00 PM PDT by TheBattman (DCI--Art, Athleticism, and Music rolled into one jaw-dropping package!)
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To: mhking
''They say people can't go around just killing bears,'' Flynn's wife, Kristine said. ''That's not what we do; if we did, there would be 15 or 20 dead bears on our lawn. Evidently, next time we have to wait 'till it's in our living room.''

Actually, it's the kitchen.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/928135/posts. Blackbird.

23 posted on 06/13/2003 2:05:58 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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A hungry black bear barges in to kitchen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/928135/posts?page=1

Plan to Attend the May 22 Fish & Wildlife Hearing on Black Bear Hunting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/909379/posts
Bear Hunting In New Jersey
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/915469/posts
Bear swats Sparta, NJ toddler
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/915249/posts
Jersey Could End Bear Market (NJ lawmakers to give animal rights group $95,000 to end hunting)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/907309/posts
Bear Kills Infant In Upstate N.Y.
Bear Dragged 5-Month-Old Away From Summer Bungalow Colony
http://cbsnewyork.com/siteSearch/news_story_1364547158_html

God:

Genesis 9:3
Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.


Man:

Kill the humans (abortion) and save the Bears, the spotted owls and the whales and don't crack that turtle egg.

You can get fined up to $10,000 for messing with those eggs and baby-killing physicians get paid government and private money $$$ to kill humans! Go figure.

http://endangered.fws.gov/esa.html#Lnk11 http://endangered.fws.gov/wildlife.html#Species
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/785378/posts

http://endangered.fws.gov/

The Endangered Species Act of 1973
http://endangered.fws.gov/esaall.pdf

Page 4 Sec 3 (c)(8) don't crack those eggs, one might end the "life" of a bird, fish or turtle. I guess certain "mammals" (humans) do not apply.

http://profs.lp.findlaw.com/endanger/endanger_6.html

The Govt. recognizes that a fertilized egg from an animal is "alive" and protected by LAW (The Endangered Species Act of 1973) and when in a human, in God's image, it's just a blob of "unlive" protoplasm which can be aspirated if it's the mother's "choice" to do so with no protections under the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution.
26 posted on 06/13/2003 10:25:39 AM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?detach=1)
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"Although Flynn told authorities at the time that he shot the bear in self-defense"

There is his problem. He TOLD them. Thus, he obviously wants to play by THEIR rules. He should have just buried the thing instead of "notifying" someone "important" as if he had shot a human. Maybe next time he will just shoot first, bury, and forget. I do.

29 posted on 06/19/2003 4:59:43 AM PDT by Windsong
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