Near as I could tell this thread didn't have anything to do with libertarians until you brought them up. I gotta ask, was your mother frightened by a libertarian while you were in the womb? You are like the creationists trying to change every thread they can into an argument in favor of creationism (which btw is either the the third or fourth biggest pile of horse hocky known to modern society)
On one hand you libertarian bashers say that libertarians will never be able to do anything because of their numbers ie there are so few of them, and on the other you blame all of the ills of society on them. Which is it?
If the shoe pinches, wince.