Psychiatric Association Debates Lifting Pedophilia Taboo

CNSNews.com ^ | 6/11/03 | Lawrence Morahan

[Qwerty]

"If I had known I was talking to a victim of SSAD, I wouldn't have engaged."

But here you are, continuing. And if you consider me a "victim", why the reluctance to speak with me?

but I am repelled and so are most people. "Don't find that credible, sorry."

You're free to believe whatever ridiculous garbage you like.

[dsc]

"And if you consider me a "victim", why the reluctance to speak with me?"

Oh, not to speak in general, but to attempt a rational discussion of this issue. As to why that:

There’s an anecdote that goes around psychology and psychiatry departments. A new clinical psychologist/psychiatric resident (depending on where you hear it) became fascinated with a case on his ward—a schizophrenic who suffered from the delusion that he was dead. The young doctor decided to have a go at talking him out of it.

“So, you’re dead, are you?”
“Yup. Dedderna doornail.”
“Well, tell me, do dead people bleed?”
“No, dead people don’t bleed.”

Thereupon, the young doctor whips out a needle, stabs the schizophrenic patient in the finger, and shows him the blood. The patient looks at it in puzzlement for a few seconds, then says in wonder, “Well, what do you know? Dead people do bleed.”

That’s why.

"You're free to believe whatever ridiculous garbage you like."

I'm also free to believe the evidence of my senses, no matter how desperately the agenda-driven insist otherwise.

[Qwerty]

"I'm also free to believe the evidence of my senses, no matter how desperately the agenda-driven insist otherwise."

The evidence of your senses tells you that lesbians are all interested in molesting children?

[dsc]

"The evidence of your senses tells you that lesbians are all interested in molesting children?"

Well, what do you know? Dead people do bleed.

I'm done here.

[Dimensio]

Also, plenty of adult homosexuals don't try to "nail" teens. I don't, for one.

I think that dcs has already addressed this. "Obviously" when you make this claim, you are lying as is any homosexual who makes a similar claim. We know this is true because the infallable dcs has made the proclamation, and it is "rude" to demand that he back up his universal libel with evidence.

[Qwerty]

"Well, what do you know? Dead people do bleed."

Your statement that all homosexuals are molesters is ridiculous.

[dsc]

And you continue to demonstrate why I wouldn't knowingly try to have a rational discussion on this issue with a SSAD sufferer.

Firstly, although only a male can "nail" anyone under any circumstances, and we are therefore clearly talking about male SSAD sufferers, you introduce the subject of lesbians in a dishonest and puerile attempt to discredit a statement about males.

Clearly, women molest in very small numbers.

Then you try to recast a wisecrack with a lot of truth in it into an extreme absolute that, as it is not subject to "proof" simply in the nature of things, can easily be denied and mocked.

By the standards applied by the malicious and dishonest, we can't even "prove" that all rattlesnakes are venomous without individually examining each snake. After all, they assert, there might be lots of non-venomous rattlers out there, and you don't know until a "scientific study" is performed.

The dishonesty with which SSAD sufferers invariably address this subject bears out St. Peter Damian:

According to Damian, the vice of sodomy "surpasses the enormity of all others," because: "Without fail, it brings death to the body and destruction to the soul. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the mind, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, and gives entrance to the devil, the stimulator of lust: It leads to error, totally removes truth from the deluded mind . . . It opens up Hell and closes the gates of Paradise . . . It is this vice that violates temperance, slays modesty, strangles chastity, and slaughters virginity . . . It defiles all things, sullies all things, pollutes all things . . . This utterly diseased queen of Sodom renders him who obeys the laws of her tyranny infamous to men and odious to God . . . She strips her knights of the armor of virtue, exposing them to be pierced by the spears of every vice. . . she defiles him in secret and dishonors him in public; she gnaws at his conscience like a worm and consumes his flesh like fire . . . this unfortunate man is deprived of all moral sense, his memory fails, and the mind's vision is darkened."

[dsc]

And you continue to demonstrate why I wouldn't knowingly try to have a rational discussion on this issue with a SSAD sufferer.

Firstly, although only a male can "nail" anyone under any circumstances, and we are therefore clearly talking about male SSAD sufferers, you introduce the subject of lesbians in a dishonest and puerile attempt to discredit a statement about males.

Clearly, women molest in very small numbers.

Then you try to recast a wisecrack with a lot of truth in it into an extreme absolute that, as it is not subject to "proof" simply in the nature of things, can easily be denied and mocked.

By the standards applied by the malicious and dishonest, we can't even "prove" that all rattlesnakes are venomous without individually examining each snake. After all, they assert, there might be lots of non-venomous rattlers out there, and you don't know until a "scientific study" is performed.

The dishonesty with which SSAD sufferers invariably address this subject bears out St. Peter Damian:

According to Damian, the vice of sodomy "surpasses the enormity of all others," because: "Without fail, it brings death to the body and destruction to the soul. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the mind, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, and gives entrance to the devil, the stimulator of lust: It leads to error, totally removes truth from the deluded mind . . . It opens up Hell and closes the gates of Paradise . . . It is this vice that violates temperance, slays modesty, strangles chastity, and slaughters virginity . . . It defiles all things, sullies all things, pollutes all things . . . This utterly diseased queen of Sodom renders him who obeys the laws of her tyranny infamous to men and odious to God . . . She strips her knights of the armor of virtue, exposing them to be pierced by the spears of every vice. . . she defiles him in secret and dishonors him in public; she gnaws at his conscience like a worm and consumes his flesh like fire . . . this unfortunate man is deprived of all moral sense, his memory fails, and the mind's vision is darkened."

[dsc]

"and it is "rude" to demand that he back up his universal libel with evidence."

Not "rude," maliciously dishonest. Just like your recasting of your demand for "proof" as a demand to back up with evidence, and your restatement of my answer as a claim that your demand was "rude," rather than unreasonable and dishonest.

I think I already provided some "evidence." Or maybe that was another thread.

Anyway, if you want evidence that SSAD sufferers act on their attraction to the young all out of proportion to their numbers, start with the fact that they commit around a third of all sex offenses involving minors.

The other 98 percent of the population is responsible for the other two thirds.

Let's just round off to one third and two thirds for the sake of discussion.

98-->66
02-->33

See any disproportion there?

And that's without even going into the question of under-reporting.

Now, I have really got to disengage from this tar baby.

[Dimensio]

I think I already provided some "evidence." Or maybe that was another thread.

Wherever it was, I didn't see it. Of course, you claimed earlier that much of your evidence amount to "observation", which would put it in conflict with someone whose "observation" has brought them to a different conclusion. Why should I believe you over them?

start with the fact that they commit around a third of all sex offenses involving minors.

Just out of curiousity, from where did you derive this stat?

[Dimensio]

By the standards applied by the malicious and dishonest, we can't even "prove" that all rattlesnakes are venomous without individually examining each snake. After all, they assert, there might be lots of non-venomous rattlers out there, and you don't know until a "scientific study" is performed.

Just like I said, it's "rude" to ask that he provide any real evidence for his universal libel. It should be assumed that all homosexuals, without exception, are child molester wannabes and that any who might not be should be considered a rare exception and only if their existence can be verified. Of course, then it breaks into a religious rant that has no meaning to someone who isn't a Christian.

[Qwerty]

"Just like I said, it's "rude" to ask that he provide any real evidence for his universal libel."

Actually, he provided some sort of story about a mental patient and his doctor... it sealed everything up nicely.

;-)

[Kevin Curry]

I'm sure the chickenhawks appreciate the cover you give them.

[gitmo]

I told you. One step closer.

[Dimensio]

I guess that a discussion like this wouldn't be complete without the coward Kevin Curry to come forth, shout out a proclamation of what everyone else "really" believes and then run off without defending it.