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FBI Drains Pond as Part Anthrax Probe (Assorted New and Semi-New Info from Brian Ross)
ABC News ^ | June 9, 2003 | Brian Ross

Posted on 06/09/2003 7:07:25 PM PDT by John H K

As the FBI began draining an entire pond today in its 20-month-old anthrax probe, investigators remained focused on one man in the hunt for the perpetrator, ABCNEWS' World News Tonight reported.

And today's unusual move appears to be the FBI's last, best shot at proving what it so far has been unable to prove, that former government scientist Steven Hatfill was the anthrax killer.

Five people died and more than a dozen others were sickened in the rash of anthrax attacks targeting Congress and media outlets in the fall of 2001.

The decision to drain the pond in Maryland's Frederick Municipal Forest was based on what federal officials say is no more than a growing circumstantial case against Hatfill, federal law enforcement sources said.

The FBI's working theory, sources said, is that Hatfill, who lived eight miles away in Frederick, Md., next to U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases where he worked, used makeshift lab equipment to put finely powdered anthrax in envelopes, and then dumped the equipment in the pond. Hatfill has vehemently denied any involvement in the anthrax attacks, and his spokesman reiterated that today.

"They can drain the Pacific Ocean and they're not going to find any evidence that Steve Hatfill was the anthrax killer because he's had no involvement whatsoever," said Hatfill spokesman Pat Clawson.

The Sweater Box Mystery

But the circumstantial case is continuing to develop. The FBI was led to the pond last year by bloodhounds, including one named Tinkerbell, tracking the scent picked up from Hatfill and the anthrax letters, federal sources said.

Over the Christmas holiday, FBI divers recovered what they think was a piece of the makeshift equipment used to load the anthrax, a plastic sweater box with two hand-sized holes cut in it, sources said.

Other circumstantial evidence that has sources said has led the FBI to continue its focus on Hatfill includes his presence in Florida, around the time an anthrax-laced letter was mailed to the American Media Co. in Boca Raton, Fla.

Also, sources said, Hatfill made an admission to the FBI that he was taking the powerful antibiotic Cipro at the time of the anthrax attacks, which he reportedly said was for a nasal infection.

Cipro is the treatment prescribed for suspected anthrax poinsoning, and was given preventatively to thousands of people at the peak of the anthrax attacks.

Still, none of that circumstantial evidence has produced an arrest, leaving the FBI draining a 1-acre pond, a process that is expected to take three to four weeks and cost $250,000.

"If the FBI had any facts tying Steve Hatfill directly into the anthrax case, I don't think he'd be out walking the streets right now," said Clawson.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: anthrax; antraz; hatfill; pond; tinkerbell; tinkerbelle
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To: FairOpinion; Badabing Badaboom; jpl; pttttt; Fred Mertz; Mitchell
Agents also discovered vials and gloves wrapped in plastic. Tests for the presence of anthrax bacteria on the equipment are continuing, after two rounds of tests produced conflicting results.

Hmmm, let's see. They searched the ponds five months ago, but tests on the vials for anthrax are still ongoing. Why do I suspect we are being fed a bunch of bullsh*t here? And what could be the purpose of feeding us a bunch of bullsh*t about this "investigation"?

81 posted on 06/09/2003 11:28:13 PM PDT by The Great Satan ("Don’t bother to examine a folly – ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: The Great Satan
"Van Harp's retirement......priceless"

LOL

I do wonder how they will handle Hatfill AFTER Van Harp retires.
82 posted on 06/09/2003 11:37:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I do wonder how they will handle Hatfill AFTER Van Harp retires.

Oh, he'll probably get a big bonus.

83 posted on 06/09/2003 11:39:43 PM PDT by The Great Satan ("Don’t bother to examine a folly – ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: FairOpinion
Here's another reality check for you re the new WP article. From the Post:
In recent months, FBI agents visited Insight magazine writer Timothy Maier in Washington to discuss an article on Hatfill published in January 1998, along with a photograph that shows Hatfill, clothed in a homemade protective suit and gas mask, demonstrating how someone could concoct bioagents in a home laboratory. The article has attracted intense interest since the 2001 letter attacks, and Maier said he was surprised that it took agents so long to question him about it.

Maier said two agents interviewed him about the photograph, which Hatfill had provided the magazine. Agents seemed interested in examining details in the photo, such as a tiny magnet on a refrigerator, in an attempt to pinpoint the location where Hatfill had set up a makeshift lab to demonstrate his theory.

Now for the rest of the story, as detailed by Maier himself last April:
In 1998, to illustrate how easy it would be for a terrorist to produce anthrax, Hatfill donned a hazardous-materials suit at a makeshift lab in an undisclosed location and posed for a photographer as if he were making the deadly biological weapon. While Insight published that photo in 1998, it took nearly two years for the FBI to visit this magazine's office and inquire about the photo - which was in fact a National Institutes of Health file picture. The FBI had assumed that Insight photographers took the picture, even though the credit clearly was given on the photo caption.

Source: Did the FBI Make Rush to Judgment?


84 posted on 06/09/2003 11:52:57 PM PDT by The Great Satan ("Don’t bother to examine a folly – ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: swilhelm73
The letters in New Jersey were most likely mailed in Florida. There is still no evidence that anything was mailed in NJ, just that some of the letters were postmarked there. There are many, many ways a letter can arrive at the 010 operation without ever going through what the general public would recognize as a "mailbox".

Now, regarding "Greendale", recall our friends down in North Carolina going to college to learn all about engineering and pharmacology. If you do a www.google.com search of names significant in their lives, e.g. "greensboro", "greendale", "school", and also one of the targets, "brokaw", you will get a handful of results.

One such result is "www.beachcomber.com". This consists of a myriad of address files for all sorts of things all over the world. Once in the file. Search for Washington DC. Search for "schools". Search for "Schools and Instruction - Aircraft Flight Training".

Looks like we are getting hot!

Another one of your references was "Tom's Celebrity List". It pops right up with an Adobe list (which explains some of the peculiarities of the format we see in the destination addresses, e.g. "Building" set on its own line in the address block. Now, do a search in the PDF search engine to find "Brokaw".

Even hotter!

Tom may have other lists. I haven't looked for them. One can envision a list called "Congress ~ Leadership".

There has been an assumption that the material in the return address had something to do with the point of origin. It is much more likely those are simply code reference names used by AlQaida members to find sites on the internet containing information they required to do their jobs. When it came time to address the letters they simply combined those codes. Same with the ZIP Code in the return address. In reverse it's a town out on I-81 where they are or were persons of interest. It is coincidentally a NJ location before it's reversal.

All very interesting given the fact that some folks like to use I-81 to drive from Greensboro NC to locations in the North thereby avoiding the congestion on I-95 nearer the coast.

Now, who's going to take home all the fish those guys catch?

85 posted on 06/10/2003 5:23:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Great Satan; Fred Mertz; Shermy; Badabing Badaboom
This morning Washington Post story: Md. Pond Drained for Clues in Anthrax Probe : FBI's 'Forensic Searches' Seek Clothing and Equipment .
86 posted on 06/10/2003 5:35:55 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: muawiyah
No evidence they were mailed in NJ??? What about the Post Office they went out from being shut down? And our mail here is still being funneled through a separate offsite annex to be screened for radioactive and metal materials.
87 posted on 06/10/2003 8:01:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Calpernia; The Great Satan; Fred Mertz; Shermy; Badabing Badaboom
Hong Kong toddler dies from anthrax.
88 posted on 06/10/2003 8:07:03 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides; John H K
Thanks for that news link. I'm sure Johnny Hong Kong will have a reasoned explanation for this anthrax case.
89 posted on 06/10/2003 9:34:17 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Shermy; Nita Nupress
Well Shermy,

I'm not being too successful with finding the specific thread I was referencing. I think it was posted by MadIvan. It was about a British media source going through some of the boxes of files they have been finding in Iraq. This thread referenced one of the UK Parlimont representatives being exposed for being on 'Iraq payroll'. These files had lists of people of interest who could be swayed to be 'sympathetic to Iraq, or what ever false flag Iraq is a puppet for, needs. It is my theory only that the people here that received anthrax mailings were 'sympathetic' to interests outside of the USA. I see the mailings as a 'warning' to the recipients. A type of mafia threat. But the links below is good enough to reference the files that show evidence of 'sympathizers' or people 'easily swayed'.

Now, I know there are operatives here that look to accomplish what the need by looking for 'sympathizers' or people easily swayed. It seems to be a same training mindset.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908996/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/890894/posts
90 posted on 06/10/2003 10:13:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Really? Betcha can't find anybody who's been hauled up before that grand jury. Oh, BTW, if Clawson pops up and claims to have been before a grand jury, that doesn't count. He's a salesman, geddit?
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." -- Winston Churchill

92 posted on 06/10/2003 12:36:43 PM PDT by The Great Satan ("Don’t bother to examine a folly – ask yourself only what it accomplishes." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Now I can't help but wonder if Hatfill may have 'had a file' in Iraq....
93 posted on 06/10/2003 12:54:35 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom; okie01; Mitchell; Allan; Nita Nupress
Is that so?

I'll have to check out the article tomorrow when I'm less tired. Thanks muchly for the ping.
94 posted on 06/10/2003 7:51:46 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: aristeides
I still find it interesting that Frederick is where they caught up with the "snipers". It was shortly after that they became interested in the ponds. The snipers certainly would have made good "runners" for the Anthrax mailings. And Malvo, all of a sudden, left his Florida school the day after the AMI employee died (Oct 5th). Amazing coincidence?? He didn't arrive at the shelter in Tacoma for two weeks so he could have mailed the letters on the weekend nearest Oct 9th. I can find no account of his time during this two weeks or the type of transportation to Tacoma.
96 posted on 06/11/2003 2:32:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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