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Blair Cooperating With Intelligence Probe [Iraqi WMDs]
Associated Press ^ | June 4, 2003 | Michael McDonough

Posted on 06/04/2003 5:18:21 AM PDT by AntiGuv

LONDON - Prime Minister Tony Blair, under fire from lawmakers over the failure to find Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, said Wednesday that the government will cooperate with a parliamentary probe into the intelligence on Iraqi arms that he used to justify war.

Blair said the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee had contacted the government early last month to conduct an inquiry into intelligence on Iraq.

"I welcome this," Blair told the House of Commons. "I can assure the House the government will cooperate fully with it."

Blair described as "completely and utterly untrue" a media report that his office had redrafted an intelligence service report to emphasize a claim that Iraq could deploy weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes.

The probe by the Intelligence and Security Committee is separate from the investigation announced late Tuesday by the influential House of Commons Foreign Relations Committee.

The Intelligence and Security Committee reports to Blair and its members are appointed by the prime minister. The Foreign Affairs Committee, however, holds most of its hearings in public and reports to Parliament.

Noting that, opposition Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith urged Blair to authorize an independent inquiry.

"The whole credibility of his government rests on clearing up these charges. And I simply say to the prime minister, these allegations are not going to go away," Duncan Smith said.

With no weapons of mass destruction yet found in Iraq, the government is under increasing pressure to explain claims in an intelligence dossier that supported Blair's main argument for military action — that the weapons presented a real threat.

The latest controversy about the weapons was fueled by a report on BBC Radio quoting an unidentified "senior British official" as saying that intelligence officers were unhappy about the inclusion in the dossier of evidence they regarded as unreliable — such as a claim that weapons could be activated within 45 minutes.

A senior member of Blair's Cabinet on Wednesday said "rogue" elements within the intelligence services were responsible for the BBC report.

"When I look at who is supposed to be the source of this according to the BBC's own reporter, it is one individual, unnamed, anonymous, uncorroborated official who is in some way connected with the intelligence service," the Leader of the House of Commons, John Reid, told BBC TV.

"It amazes me that serious organizations like the BBC should take the word of such obviously rogue isolated individuals."

"The allegation ... is that we are corrupt, we are dishonest, that we and the intelligence chiefs we work for allowed and knowingly put into the public domain ... misinformation in order to dupe colleagues in parliament and the public. That is the most serious of charges," he added.

In an interview with The Times of London published Wednesday, Reid said the BBC report was based on "uncorroborated briefings by a potentially rogue element — or indeed rogue elements — in the intelligence services."

"This is getting ridiculous. We have not found WMD (weapons of mass destruction) yet, but we have not found Saddam Hussein — and everyone knows he existed," Reid added.

Blair has denied his office doctored the intelligence dossier to exaggerate the threat posed by Iraq's weapons, which he says existed and will eventually be found by coalition forces.

Some legislators, including the leader of the opposition Liberal Democrat Party, have called for a public inquiry, but Blair's office has resisted.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; intelligence; iraq; wmd

1 posted on 06/04/2003 5:18:21 AM PDT by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv
Holy crap, did this many people REALLY think that we would find WMDs 5 seconds after we went into Iraq?
2 posted on 06/04/2003 5:28:33 AM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Terpfen
Holy crap, did this many people REALLY think that we would find WMDs 5 seconds after we went into Iraq?

Evidently, yes. It appears that most people were led - for whatever reason - to believe that Iraq was bristling with programs and weapons of mass destruction, which if not immediately evident upon occupation, would be divulged by officials & scientists no longer in fear of the Ba'athist regime. In fact, I would venture to say that a majority of people (polls bear this out) had the impression that Iraq not only had WMDs, but would use them against Israel and against our own forces (remember the notorious 'Red Line' around Baghdad).

3 posted on 06/04/2003 5:35:20 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Terpfen
As one Labour MP pointed out, Blair has been calling for patience on the issue of WMD but patience was shown when it came to giving the UN Inspectors more time.

Labour have always been critised for spin but these allegations could put Blair in a very difficult position.

Things are well past the "5 seconds" point now and people in the UK do have a right to question the decision to commit troops to the invasion of Iraq.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 5:37:55 AM PDT by jerej
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To: jerej
It wasn't an invasion; it was a liberation.
WMDs were only part of the reason to stop the madness of Saddam Hussein.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 5:43:35 AM PDT by Galtoid
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To: jerej
Labour have always been critised for spin but these allegations could put Blair in a very difficult position.

From what I've heard on this, his own party will head a closed door investigation. Take a miracle for anything actually damaging to come out of it.
6 posted on 06/04/2003 5:56:29 AM PDT by steve50
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To: jerej
As one Labour MP pointed out, Blair has been calling for patience on the issue of WMD but patience was shown when it came to giving the UN Inspectors more time.

The sole point of "giving the inspectors more time" was really to give Saddam more time to HIDE THE EVIDENCE.

7 posted on 06/04/2003 5:57:53 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: steve50
From what I've heard on this, his own party will head a closed door investigation. Take a miracle for anything actually damaging to come out of it.

As noted above & in the Financial Times, the Foreign Affairs Committee is launching a separate investigation with public hearings & reporting to Parliament.

8 posted on 06/04/2003 6:07:01 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: alnick
The sole point of "giving the inspectors more time" was really to give Saddam more time to HIDE THE EVIDENCE. So where did he hide the weapons then? Did he hide them in [insert country that is pissing US off here]? Is Wally in the wardrobe? I seem to remember Colin Powell presenting "evidence" to the UN of these weapons with Cuba Missile Crisis -esque aerial footage. But were are they? Your point is a typical US shoutdown of any criticism. At least the UK can discuss this. US democracy has been replaced with unquestioning patriotism which rejects every other standpoint as 'liberal'.
9 posted on 06/04/2003 6:09:31 AM PDT by jerej
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To: jerej
So where did he hide the weapons then?

You can't possibly be serious. I'll give you a hint: When something is hidden, it is not generally known where it is.

10 posted on 06/04/2003 6:14:08 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: alnick
I was posing that as a rhetorical question.

Blair is potentially in hot water on this issue. Anyone in the US who does not think that this is an important issue is deluded. No amount of "...it was never about WMDs, it was about liberating the iraqi people/stopping al queda/ousting Saddam" type circular argument will make it go away. Blair said that Saddam had a 45 minute strike capability in the House of Commons and in the Intelligence Dossier.

But then again, maybe when then look behind the couches in Saddam's Presidential Palaces, they'll find the WMDs there :p
11 posted on 06/04/2003 6:43:18 AM PDT by jerej
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To: jerej
Your point is a typical US shoutdown of any criticism.

Since when does, "How dare you criticize the criticizer!" - qualify as democracy or free speech? Your point reflects a typical anti-patriotic, anti-nationalism, globalistic cynicism which is the hallmark of 60s liberalism.

If your criticism is why haven't we, in 10 weeks, uncovered more of the unaccounted for WMD than two buried biological weapons labs, fine. I don't know, but I haven't run out of patience yet.

If your point is why, after 10 years of intelligence reporting by the US, Canada, UK, Germany, Isreal, etc. and inspections by the UN - all describing (and finding pieces of) Iraqi WMD programs - some partisan ideologues would so obviously run against history to attack Bush/Blair, it's simply because they believe you and others will not hold them responsible for being liars and reprobates.

Perhaps that is what you mean by an intelligent discussion in the UK?

12 posted on 06/04/2003 6:49:24 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: jerej
No amount of "...it was never about WMDs, it was about liberating the iraqi people/stopping al queda/ousting Saddam"

I haven't heard that argument from anyone. I've heard a lot of people try to explain that there were several reasons which Bush stated repeatedly for the war, WMD being one, liberation being another, terrorist ties being another.

13 posted on 06/04/2003 10:08:46 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: AntiGuv
Your sarcasm aside, there's a difference between having WMDs and having them in the open. Iraq had 12 years to learn how to hide the things, and at least 1 year to disperse them outside the country in the event of war. This is an investigation, and investigations take time.
14 posted on 06/04/2003 1:36:45 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: jerej
UN inspectors had 12 years. Coalition inspectors have had 2 months. There's a large difference there. The allegations would be deadly if they were based in logic and fact, which they really aren't. Plus there's the fact that UK polls showed support for Blair and the war in the mid-50s: the Labor members opening their mouths are looking pretty foolish.

As for the troops, yes, the people have a right to question the use of their military, but there's no point doing it if there isn't a basis for it. There really isn't one right now. Maybe in 2015, sure. But not right now.
15 posted on 06/04/2003 1:40:01 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Terpfen
I'm not being sarcastic. My remark was intended as completely matter-of-fact.
16 posted on 06/04/2003 1:44:07 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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