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Sen. Lieberman warns of dangers of offshore chip manufacturing
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Posted on 06/02/2003 9:34:12 PM PDT by maui_hawaii

WASHINGTON -- National security as well as high-tech jobs could be endangered if the U.S. doesn't stop an accelerating offshore shift of semiconductor manufacturing to East Asian countries, including China, warned U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) today in a report delivered to U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

A continuing migration of semiconductor manufacturing, along with the potential loss of research and design centers to Asian nations, poses "grave national security implications," the Democratic presidential candidate said.

If that trend continues, "the U.S. will lose the ability to reliably obtain high-end semiconductor integrated circuits from trusted sources," according to the report, titled "National Aspects of the Global Migration of the U.S. Semiconductor Industry."

In a letter to Rumsfeld that accompanied the 10-page report, Lieberman, who serves on the Senate's Armed Services Committee, said the offshore manufacturing shift is occurring "at a time when these components are becoming a crucial defense technology advantage" to the U.S.

The Chinese, in particular, are using tax incentives and subsidies to build their semiconductor production capability to help bring an end to the U.S. semiconductor industry, Lieberman said.

Reversing this trend will require a variety of actions, including the enforcement of trade rules to prevent China from discounting its chips, as well as the use of defense contracts to help build up the U.S. semiconductor industry, according to the report. It also recommends increasing research and development funding.

But Craig Casey, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke University in Durham, N.C., who has advised defense agencies on electronics issues, said the shift overseas "is more of an economic than military threat."

Casey said advanced development is still going on in this country and Japan, and the U.S. remains the leader in high-performance development. Intel Corp., Texas Instruments Inc. and IBM remain the leading producers, and "not until Intel pulls up its stakes and leaves California ... then it's another game," he said.

The Semiconductor Industry Association in San Jose said worldwide sales of semiconductors totaled $12.1 billion in April, unchanged from March, but a 9.7% increase from April 2002 revenue of $11.3 billion.

Domestically, the semiconductor industry employs 284,000.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: foreign; outsourcing
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1 posted on 06/02/2003 9:34:13 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
The one issue that demorats would have a chance too win on
Is keeping jobs in the U.S.
2 posted on 06/02/2003 9:43:50 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34
Agreed. I would vote for someone that would tell corporate America "No".
3 posted on 06/02/2003 9:47:51 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
gee, you mean we are effectively paying foreign countries to undermine our own people and industries? how very fresh... been happening since the 70's... why stop now? not like any of the members of congress want to do anything about it. After all, the H1B bill passed, even though a petition was presented with over 450,000 signatures against it. What more do they expect?

I mean really, why only flush the US partly down the toilet...

[/sarcasm]

4 posted on 06/02/2003 9:48:49 PM PDT by sten
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To: maui_hawaii
A good analysis. So how come I am hearing it from a Democrat instead of our president?
5 posted on 06/02/2003 9:54:04 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
Ever heard of the "Two-Party Cartel"?
6 posted on 06/02/2003 9:57:55 PM PDT by Digger
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To: maui_hawaii
Here we go. A "right-wing" Democrat who is taking on the issue of jobs being shipped overseas. Listen up, folks. If we don't take this bull by the horns it is going to "gore" us, so to speak, but instead of Gore it just might be Skeletor, er, Elmer Fudd, uh, Lieberman. Believe me now or believe me later. Remember when G.H.W. Bush was president? Remember a 91% approval rating? Remember "it's the economy, stupid"? Man oh man it's deja vu all over again. I need a drink....
7 posted on 06/02/2003 9:58:05 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: RLK
Well we both know the answer to that. What you get out of Bush is some folksy talk like "If people have money to spend, they're going to spend it." That was a welcome change from the "Definition of Is" president, but man is it getting to be shallow.
8 posted on 06/02/2003 10:01:26 PM PDT by lelio
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To: RLK
My post from another thread...

IMO its a two pronged thing. First its corporate America that stirs fears in the Adminstration. There are certain industries that are extremely agressive in promoting China in Washington.

Secondly if we really get to it, it will probably lead the collapse of the CCP and that would be a big crisis waiting to happen. The real deal is to tone down China but not to abandon them outright.

Most people talk about China...then they get elected and run into these two brick walls.

I hope we elect someone who will really anger corporate America and stick it in their faces. Bush though can't do that right now, primarily because the economy is his achilles heel.

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I also should mention the data of the last decade shows a solid economic shift towards Asia as a whole. There has been a significant shift.

Under Clinton there was a tide set off shifting to Asia, but the only problem is that it largely does not and won't produce major results. Everyone hopes it will, but fat chance.

Its akin right now to telling people in 1999 that Yahoo! was not such a hot investment.

In the end though Leiberman is talking trash. If he were to get elected he wouldn't do a damn thing. A few industry big shots will start complaining (and threatening) and hence Leiberman would cave in record time.

9 posted on 06/02/2003 10:03:13 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Billy_bob_bob
The good news is that the lefties who control the Rat party will not let Lieberman get the nomination. Most liberals want our standard of living to fall, they think we consume too much anyways, and they relish the thought that our standard of living will be brought down a peg or two. Of course they will never admit it publicly.
10 posted on 06/02/2003 10:04:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Skeletor
Sorry, the name Skeletor is copyright (c) Slade Gorton, Washington State Senator 1982-2000.
11 posted on 06/02/2003 10:06:52 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Billy_bob_bob
I am with you. I like Bush a whole lot, but Congress and Bush both (aka Republicans) need to put corporate America in its place. Whoever does that gets my vote.

I like Bush a whole lot, but if there are not 2 million new, high paying jobs HERE in the US within the next 2 years I will be glad to see him and the rest of them go.

The Senate recently voted also to end the 'buy American' provisions for US contracts... can you believe that? Its about the same as saying "I have confidence in the US worker...but then contracting out to the Chinese...

Apparently there is not that much confidence...

12 posted on 06/02/2003 10:10:27 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: dfwgator
The good news is that the lefties who control the Rat party will not let Lieberman get the nomination.

He's actually got a good shot at the nomination, and its all pure luck. All the lefties who control the party, are all split up between Dean, Kerry, Edwards and Gephardt, with a few kooks going to Graham. The other 2 kooks aren't doing so hot at all. With such a big split, and no united canidate. Holy Joe could pull of the nomination, you have to remember, all he needs is for them to keep splitting this up, the way they are now.

He would get murdered in the general election though, along with the rest of his party.

13 posted on 06/02/2003 10:13:20 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: maui_hawaii
I like Bush a whole lot, but if there are not 2 million new, high paying jobs HERE in the US within the next 2 years...
Compare this to the smug attitude that republicans have in saying that blacks are leaving the democratic plantation. Except that the republicans have their own plantation: the individual small business owner that always voted for the lesser government party that will help America prosper. But now their dream is slipping away as corporate America sees that they can make a buck (and keep it for themselves) by using communist Chinese labor.
I've voted Republican in every single election (well not for Dole as he was about 2 steps away from the senile home) but I'll switch over to the D side if things don't improve. Not that I think things will get better, they just won't get worse.
14 posted on 06/02/2003 10:18:39 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Maybe we should have a progressive tax on imports. Anything above and beyond equal trade with each country progressively gets higher.

If we sell $10 billion worth of goods to China they can sell $10 billion to us at normal rates. If we sell $10 billion to them, but they sell $30 billion to us...the excess $20 billion difference is taxed at a 100% rate.

We can apply that across the board to everyone.

15 posted on 06/02/2003 10:21:01 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: lelio
I have never voted for a democrat in my whole life. Not one.

Choosing large corporate America over everyone else will change that. Workers are not tools of the corporation, or the state. Working people ARE the state. We are the life of every single corporation. We are not their sheep. But that is the way things operate.

When the average joe does good, the corporations do good. It should be a partnership. But its not.

16 posted on 06/02/2003 10:27:53 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: lelio
Corporate America should hire the people that actually purchases their stuff.
17 posted on 06/02/2003 10:30:37 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: RLK
Agree. And the problem is no just in the semiconductor field.
I've been on all the threads regarding the outsourcing/offshoring of high-tech (and the H-1B and L-1 visas), trying to make as much noise about national security as I can.
What incentive will our brightest minds have to create the next technology and keep our technological lead if they cannot get a job in high-tech?
Now our personal databases are being run by foreigners in their countries. That's your medical, financial, insurance and telecommunication info.
America's engineers and programmers are losing their jobs to foreigners at an amazingly fast rate.
Here's a link to a website with more links and info:
http://www.h1b.info/bookmarks.php

Write your congressmen and Homeland Security.
18 posted on 06/02/2003 10:32:37 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: All
As long as the semiconductors are not critical to our defense industry I say let the free market work. Put the plants wherever the companies need to be in order to maximize profits and compete globally. Don't regulate choices for the American or any other consumer.
19 posted on 06/02/2003 10:36:56 PM PDT by Registered ("Status Quo" is Latin for "the mess we're in")
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To: Registered
There is more too it than just that IMO. That is only two of the issues.

There are ways to balance things out. Giving it all to China is not the best way to serve the US, nor its consumers, nor serves the best interests of US companies.

I don't want to buy Chinese stuff. Where is MY choice?

The whole issue of 'choice' is bogus.

20 posted on 06/02/2003 10:42:29 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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