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Gays, lesbians lash out at (Catholic) church
The Boston Globe ^ | 5/31/03 | By Yvonne Abraham, Globe Staff

Posted on 06/01/2003 1:47:48 PM PDT by GrandMoM

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:09:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Gay and lesbian groups said yesterday that the Catholic Church, under siege for the clergy abuse scandal, lacks the moral authority to mobilize parishioners against same-sex marriage. They are urging parishioners to walk out of services if priests voice the church's opposition to same-sex unions and to boycott church collections.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; child; children; court; defense; deviant; doma; father; gay; gays; homeschool; homosexual; homosexualagenda; idolatry; marriage; mass; mother; prisoners; same; samesexmarriage; school; sex
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''Why do they perceive, and what evidence do they show, that a sustained committed relationship between gay and lesbian persons has such a devastating impact on the married state?'' ....how many times must this be explained?
1 posted on 06/01/2003 1:47:48 PM PDT by GrandMoM
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To: scripter
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2 posted on 06/01/2003 1:49:42 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM
It's not the Catholic church that says so. God says so. The dykes and fags will someday be really surprised.
3 posted on 06/01/2003 1:54:13 PM PDT by babylonian
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To: GrandMoM
This has about as much impact as the following headline:

SATAN CONDEMNS GOD WORSHIP

If they don't like Christianity nor want to follow their rules they are perfectly free to start their own religion.

4 posted on 06/01/2003 1:54:44 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GrandMoM
Gee, do you think maybe the queers don't like the Catholic Church??
5 posted on 06/01/2003 1:54:56 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: GrandMoM
So the ACLU has a problem with the Catholic Church publicly opposing gay marriage. Strange, the ACLU, in the past, had no problem with liberal churches publicly opposing the Iraqi War, campaigning for RAT candidates, and supporting tax increases for more gov't services.
6 posted on 06/01/2003 1:55:31 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: GrandMoM
I guess we Catholics must be doing something right then.
7 posted on 06/01/2003 1:57:42 PM PDT by 7 x 77 (w)
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They are urging parishioners to walk out of services if priests voice the church's opposition to same-sex unions

I think this a mute point, I've never heard a homily against homosexuality.

8 posted on 06/01/2003 1:59:03 PM PDT by 7 x 77 (w)
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To: GrandMoM
So much for balanced reporting. We have quote's from: "a Gay and Lesbian Political Caucus board member", a N.O.W,. member that "claims to have been raised Catholic (i guess she missed the part about "though shall not kill"), an ACLU board member, and a lay professor at a Jesuit school.

Amazing that they couldn't find a single person that supported the Church's right to free speech.

But then again it is Boston were talking about.
9 posted on 06/01/2003 1:59:37 PM PDT by Smogger
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10 posted on 06/01/2003 2:00:12 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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After a year in which the church was grappling with the sexual abuse crisis, the mobilization may signal an effort to reenter the arena of public policy.

I think that came when they defended Saddam.

11 posted on 06/01/2003 2:01:52 PM PDT by 7 x 77 (w)
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Its time for the Catholic Church to administer a little church discipline on these dissenters.
12 posted on 06/01/2003 2:04:04 PM PDT by Kuksool
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Smogger wrote

Amazing that they couldn't find a single person that supported the Church's right to free speech

Kuksoll wrote

Its time for the Catholic Church to administer a little church discipline on these dissenters

I hate to say this but in the interest of fairness I feel I must

While the Catholic Church has the full authority to make any statement they wish regarding any subject they wish, You simply can not talk about someones right to free speech when you telling anyone that disagrees with you to shut up.

I had hoped that the whole DC, Suzi S. debacle would have taught us that crying about free speech when we are trying to silence others is not an acceptable argument.

13 posted on 06/01/2003 2:13:21 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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If the Catholics let gay and lesbians become members of the clergy, the result will be more molested children. This is a part of making the Catholic Church less hospitable to gays, thus discouraging them from entering the priesthood.
14 posted on 06/01/2003 2:14:22 PM PDT by ikka
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To: GrandMoM; SuziQ
Granny

This issue is a no flier in this State, put this on the Ballot 68 to 32 against. Tommy "the commie" Birmingham our ex-President of the Senate, refused to bring this up during a Constitution Convention on override, Mass Law requires that that an Ammendment to the Constitution be be laid before the Great and General Court in two legislative sessions before it can go on the ballot. This is a requirement you cannot block a vote if it has the required signatures, he did, ran for Gov and lost.

There is a bill to eleminate the Governors Councils role in the appointment of judges, life tenure, and go to a system where the Gov appoints and you have a perodic up or down Vote on tenure, a good thing to my mind. We had 100,000 signatures more than we needed on this issue, the rats aare running scared.

15 posted on 06/01/2003 2:15:54 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: GrandMoM
With all the heterosexuals that lash out at the Catholic church, I didn't realize there was any oxygen left for lesbians and homosexuals to lash out. Goodness.
16 posted on 06/01/2003 2:16:19 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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Gee, do you think maybe the queers don't like the Catholic Church??....I think they are mad that they don't allow gays in the seminaries now!
17 posted on 06/01/2003 2:17:51 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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I think this a mute point,

At the very least, it's a series point. Hugh, even.

Just kidding. I think you meant "moot point."

18 posted on 06/01/2003 2:19:14 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GrandMoM
Wow! Fair and balanced reportage from the Boston Globe, grasping little sister to the NY times.
The gays and others quoted in this article have nothing to do with Catholicism except for claiming the designation. It sounds like they may have been to services held by the false priest the Rev. James Keenan who likes to testify in favor of same-sex marriage. What kind of priest do you suppose he is? Is Keenan part of the problem or part of the solution?
The article said, "Activists called the church's renewed focus on the issue an attempt to regain lost credibility..." Well, same-sex marriage is a damned good place to start reclaiming the moral highground.
It's nice to see that the winds of change reach even here in Massachusetts.
19 posted on 06/01/2003 2:19:34 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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