Y Chromosomes Sketch New Outline of British History

NY Times ^ | May 27, 2003 | NICHOLAS WADE

[blam]

IMO the first Celts (proto) to arrive in Ireland were The Tuatha de Danann who made their way from Turkey (after the flood) via Iberia to Ireland where they encountered and fought the Fomorians who (IMO) were a seafaring black race.

The Tuatha de Danann may have been related to Noah and some believe they may even be members of the Tribe Of Dan

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I'd always understood the Celts moved to Wales from central Europe, about where Hungary is...

[blam]

English And Welsh Are Races Apart

[VOA]

the Celtic-speaking men, since genetically very close to the Basques, must also be
drawn from the original Paleolithic inhabitants of Europe, and probably represent
the first modern human inhabitants of Britain who settled the islands some 10,000 years ago,

This is just great...now I not only have to live with the knowledge that I'm
an Okie...I'm even an aborigine, no matter how white I am...
(OK, I'm laughing as I type this...)

[Eric in the Ozarks]

My dad's people were Welsh.

[Pharmboy]

We all come from aborigines, don't we now...just depends on where our people landed (or were chased to!)

[VOA]

We all come from aborigines, don't we now

Of course you are correct.
I've had a few laughs with friends from Australia...we talk about how Oklahoma
and Australia are alike: Home to outlaw Europeans and oppressed aborigines...

(well, not all the "aborigines" got the short end of the stick in Oklahoma...
at least the ones with oil wells and the good sense to spend the money well!)

[quebecois]

This is all beside the point, as in a few generations, all of the UK's Y chromosomes will be Pakistani or Jamaican

[Bedford Forrest]

"Well, it makes a good story. If the Romans had not had internal trouble they would have conquered the Picts and the Irish wouldn't have been far behind"

Come on. Hadrian built his little wall to keep out the Picts, who were as gnats compared to the Celts, in terms of the numbers and sheer ferocity of the latter. That is to say, the Picts seem to have disappeared and the Celts, as you well know, ye shall always have with you. BTW, 95% of the Brit histories on this issue [whether or not the Romans concluded that engaging the guys with the blue war paint was a bad career move] are total rubbish. What? You accuse me of bias? My seconds will be contacting you.

[BJB]

I'm afraid that Tribe of Dan scenario is quite impossible for the English's case. They are only of Syrian-Anatolian descent from the neolithic farmers who came to Europe from the Middle East around 10,000 years ago. They are not descended from any Jewish tribes that formed between only 3500 and 4500 years ago.

[BJB]

Farmboy, I don't get you. Most of the Vikings that came to Britain were men. The Viking-Celtic mixture in the British Isles would usually be Viking-Man and Celtic-Basque-Anatolian-(maybe)Germanic-Roman women.

[Savage Beast]

Maybe those babes were only half Scandinavian but nontheless yummy.

Ever notice how some of the scruffiest of men can have peachy daughters? It's an amazing trick of nature.

[blam]

GGG Ping

Let's really screw with things, er? (Read this)

The Relationship Between The Basque And Ainu

[blam]

Another.

Y Chromosomes Rewrite British History

[Thom Pain]

Which ones were responsible for the poor dental hygiene?

[Savage Beast]

Thanks, Blam. That was interesting. ~S

[Pharmboy]

Thanks...that is very interesting.

[SunkenCiv]

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[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Long live the Britons!

[marsh2]

If I recall correctly, the Vikings brought entire families and slaves with them and established farms.