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The U.N.'s flag-waving fan Congressman's position bucks the Bush administration
sfgate.com | May 26, 2003 | Edward Epstein

Posted on 05/27/2003 12:35:14 PM PDT by follow the money

The U.N.'s flag-waving fan Congressman's position bucks the Bush administration

Washington -- In the long corridors of Congress, the entrances to members' offices aren't fully dressed unless they are framed by the United States flag and that of the member's state.

Many also fly the black and white POW-MIA flag or the flag of their city or home county.

But only one of the 535 members of Congress, Rep. Sam Farr, D-Carmel, flies the blue and white United Nations flag. Farr started doing it only recently, just as President Bush's feud with such fellow U.N. Security Council members as France, Germany and Russia led the president to invade Iraq without the council's express backing.

"My God, we're flying all these flags around here, and I thought, 'Shouldn't the U.N. flag be flying here, too?' " Farr said recently as he stood in the corridor outside his office in the Longworth House Office Building. "If the U.N. didn't exist, we'd be inventing it right now."

Farr's display of support for the U.N. and his status as one of only a handful in Congress who is a dues-paying member of the United Nations Association, tells a lot about the love-hate relationship between the 191- nation international body and American politicians.

PUBLIC SUPPORTS U.N. For years, polls have shown overwhelming public support among Americans for the U.N., but for years, the organization has been bashed in Congress as a mismanaged, if not downright corrupt, place where dictatorships thwart the United States and other democracies.

It has been derided as a useless debating society that all too often can't move effectively to prevent or stop wars.

The situation got so bad that Washington fell more than $1 billion behind in its U.N. dues, a situation that has been only partly corrected in recent years. The United States even quit the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization in 1984, citing anti-U.S. bias and mismanagement, and didn't return until 2002.

The difficulties with the United Nations were compounded in recent months when the Bush administration failed to persuade the Security Council to pass a second resolution endorsing a possible invasion of Iraq, raising talk in Washington of the council flunking a historic test.

Farr voted against last October's congressional resolution authorizing Bush to take military action against Iraq. The president's view of the United Nations runs counter to Farr's lifetime of support for the international body.

FLYING FLAGS The 61-year-old, six-term Democrat traces his interest in the United Nations to 1955, when his parents took him to events in San Francisco commemorating the 10th anniversary of the U.N. Charter's signing in the city.

"I fell in love with all the flags flying in San Francisco from all the nations," said Farr, who later saw the world in the Merchant Marine and served as a Peace Corps volunteer in Colombia.

"We've got to do everything in our power to make the U.N. the leadership body it was intended to be," Farr said. "This president has no respect for the United Nations."

The administration says it is committed to multilateralism and to the United Nations. Its continued faith in the organization is shown by its return to the Security Council for a new resolution passed Thursday that allows the U. S.-led group to occupy Iraq, phase out sanctions against Iraq and use oil revenues to pay for the country's reconstruction, the White House says.

But, at the same time, the White House has slammed the United Nations for such decisions as re-electing Cuba to a position in the U.N. Human Rights Commission.

LONELY GESTURE Steven Dimoff, Washington vice president of the United Nations Association, said the group appreciates Farr's lonely gesture. "It's a consciousness- raising thing. I bet people are surprised by it.

"His point is that the U.N. is what you make of it. If you engage in it, you can have a big impact," Dimoff added.

Among many of Bush's fellow conservatives, however, the United Nations is a disaster.

"Reform of the U.N. is impossible. The U.N. and its agencies are fatally flawed," said Phyllis Kaminsky, a U.S. delegate to the Human Rights Commission and a Reagan administration official.

"There are two alternatives to immediate American withdrawal from the U.N.: selective rather than full participation in U.N. activities, and targeted financial contributions. The United States should start considering the creation of an alternative world organization open exclusively to democracies, " she said at a forum sponsored by the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

But Farr calls the United Nations "the only way to build up the infrastructure around the globe for the human rights, labor, environmental conditions that are fair and equitable."

E-mail Edward Epstein at eepstein@sfchronicle.com.


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1 posted on 05/27/2003 12:35:14 PM PDT by follow the money
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May 2003, pages 22, 24

United Nations Report

Inept Diplomacy and Blame to Spare on The March to a Predetermined War

http://www.wrmea.com/archives/may03/0305022.html
2 posted on 05/27/2003 12:38:17 PM PDT by follow the money
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Follow the money. All the UN fuctionaries don't want to see their cushy jobs disappear.
3 posted on 05/27/2003 12:39:18 PM PDT by jjm2111
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"We've got to do everything in our power to make the U.N. the leadership body it was intended to be," Farr said. "This president has no respect for the United Nations."

If that were true he wouldn't have bothered with them in the first place. In sorry he did, but he did. The UN is irreversibly dying a slow death.

4 posted on 05/27/2003 12:39:38 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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5 posted on 05/27/2003 12:46:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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US Flag Etiquette

The U.S. Code is more strict about some aspects of handling the flag than contemporary culture demands—it states, for example, that the flag should not be "printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard." Our society has interpreted some of the rules rather loosely because we're enthusiastic about displaying our national symbol. Nevertheless, some important rules of decorum should be followed.

Here are the basics:

Ideally, an American flag on your house should hang from a staff that angles out from the front wall, a windowsill, or balcony. It's a good idea to screw a bracket made for holding a flagstaff to the trim. Fasten it securely so it won't become soiled or damaged. Do not allow the flag to touch the ground, floor, water, or anything else beneath it. It's also appropriate to hang the flag from a horizontal staff.

Whether the flag hangs from an angled or horizontal staff, be sure the union or canton (the rectangle with the stars) is at the peak. (Hanging the flag with the union down signals extreme distress.) When our President declares the flag to be flown at half-staff, it is acceptable to hang the flag from a horizontal staff with the union down, though your neighbors may not understand why you're doing this.

When the flag is displayed horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be at the top and to your left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be hung so that the union is on the left when you see it from the street.

The American flag is meant to be a flag; don't use it for any other purpose. For example, don't use it as drapery, ceiling decoration, or as a bed spread. And never use it as a receptacle for carrying or holding anything.

Though it is customary to fly the flag from sunrise to sunset, the U.S. Code says that "when a patriotic effect is desired," you can display it around the clock. If you do, you should illuminate it with a light.

If you display the American flag next to other flags or pennants, place it on the right side of a single flag or at the center of a group and slightly higher than the other flags. If an American flag is on the same staff as other flags, it should always be at the top. The gist is that other flags should not be in positions of greater prominence or honor.

When displayed from a car, the flagstaff should be fixed or clamped firmly to the vehicle, ideally on the right side. The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back. The same holds true for a flag displayed on a float in a parade. Don't carry the flag flat or horizontally. And, because it is not meant to be apparel, do not wear a United States flag. If you wear a lapel flag, pin it on the left side, near your heart.

The gold trim is found on ceremonial flags, to be used indoors only. They originally were used on military flags. The fringe has no specific significance, but is considered completely within the guidelines of proper flag etiquette. There is nothing in the flag code indicating that the fringe is for federal government flags only. The Internet contains many sites that claim that the fringe indicates martial law or that the Constitution does not apply in that area. These are entirely unfounded and should be dismissed as urban legends.

Appropriate USA flag folding procedure:

Basically, fold the flag in half width-wise twice. Fold up a triangle, starting at the striped end ... and repeat ... until only the end of the union is exposed. Then fold down the square into a triangle and tuck inside the folds.

Why bother with flag etiquette when you're excited about flying the Stars and Stripes? Consider this - for more than two hundred years, our country's military, firemen, police, and other service personnel have practiced these measures faithfully, treating our flag with the highest esteem. This is one way we can show respect and meet the high standard they have set.

Flag Laws and Regulations:

By Executive Order, the flag flies 24 hours a day at the following locations:

The Betsy Ross House, Philadelphia PA The White House, Washington DC U.S. Capitol, Washington DC Washington Monument, Washington DC Iwo Jima Memorial to U.S. Marines, Arlington VA Battleground, Lexington MA (site of first shots in the Revolutionary War) Winter encampment cabins, Valley Forge PA Fort McHenry, Baltimore MD (a flag flying over Fort McHenry after a battle during the War of 1812 provided the inspiration for The Star-Spangled Banner The Star-Spangled Banner Flag House, Baltimore MD (site where the famed flag over Fort McHenry was sewn) Jenny Wade House, Gettysburg PA (Jenny Wade was the only civilian killed at the battle of Gettysburg) U.S.S. Arizona Memorial, Pearl Harbor HI All custom points and points of entry into the United States The following codification of existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America be, and it is hereby, established for the use of such civilians or civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments of the Government of the United States. The flag of the United States for the purpose of this chapter shall be defined according to title 4, United States Code, Chapter 1, Section 1 and Section 2 and Executive Order 10834 issued pursuant thereto.

Sec. 2. It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.

The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all-weather flag is displayed.

The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on

New Year's Day, January 1 Inauguration Day, January 20 Lincoln's Birthday, February 12 Washington's Birthday, third Monday in February Easter Sunday (variable) Mother's Day, second Sunday in May Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May Flag Day, June 14 Independence Day, July 4 Labor Day, first Monday in September Constitution Day, September 17 Columbus Day, second Monday in October Navy Day, October 27 Veterans Day, November 11 Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November Christmas Day, December 25 and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States the birthdays of States (date of admission) and on State holidays. The flag should be displayed daily on or near the main administration building of every public institution.

The flag should be displayed in or near every polling place on election days.

The flag should be displayed during school days in or near every schoolhouse.

Sec. 3. That the flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.

The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i).

The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy.

The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.

The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right.

When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.

When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.

When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.

When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.

The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.

The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff.

The flag shall be flown at half-staff thirty days from the death of the President or a former President; ten days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. As used in this subsection (1) the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff; (2) the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and (3) the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.

When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.

When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

Sec. 4. That no disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America -- the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

Sec. 5. During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

Sec. 6. During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.

Sec. 7. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all," should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute.

Sec. 8. Any rule or custom pertaining to the display of the flag of the United States of America, set forth herein, may be altered, modified, or repealed, or additional rules with respect thereto may be prescribed, by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, whenever he deems it to be appropriate or desirable; and any such alteration or additional rule shall be set forth in a proclamation.

No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof; Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

6 posted on 05/27/2003 12:49:55 PM PDT by follow the money
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....for years, the organization has been bashed in Congress as a mismanaged, if not downright corrupt, place where dictatorships thwart the United States and other democracies.

It has been derided as a useless debating society that all too often can't move effectively to prevent or stop wars.
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Yeah, all true, clymer.

7 posted on 05/27/2003 12:51:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Condi in '08!)
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To: DoughtyOne
check out post 6
8 posted on 05/27/2003 12:51:41 PM PDT by follow the money
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The UN has become a sinkhole for US money. It would be best to form a new organisation with "willing" participants instead of third world warlords who like to be paid to remain peaceful.
9 posted on 05/27/2003 12:53:53 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: MD_Willington_1976
lol
11 posted on 05/27/2003 12:58:54 PM PDT by follow the money
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To: Bigg Red
The Democrats, the party of socialism, have so inidated the United Nations in this country that the United Nations touches everything in this country.

From taxes to regulations. It's time we get out of it . It is destroying us.

Just look at the civil rights panel in this nation. They can enter any time they want to without any paper work.

If you would just check all their agencies they have and their NGO's.

There is not one thing they do not touch in this country.

Including our schools, universities, high schools, and elementary schools.

12 posted on 05/27/2003 1:04:18 PM PDT by follow the money
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what I've thought funny was that Iraq was on the UN Committee for Disarmament...

As a sidebar did anyone else hear the report on the Congo and little reported sport of Pygmy-hunting? Similiar to the awful excesses of Americans shooting buffalo 150 years ago but practiced today by tribes in Africa...stalking and shooting Pygmies for sport! Where's the outrage? hmm? the only thing the UN is good for is to keep the spies all in one place so we don't have to fly all over the world installing listening devices...
13 posted on 05/27/2003 1:08:33 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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Sam Farr....DEMOCRAT from California...figures
14 posted on 05/27/2003 1:08:57 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("It's the same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friend")
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"PUBLIC SUPPORTS U.N. For years, polls have shown overwhelming public support among Americans for the U.N...."

Proof the brainwashing may be taking in that respect.

"...but for years, the organization has been bashed in Congress as a mismanaged, if not downright corrupt, place where dictatorships thwart the United States and other democracies."

It is. From Saddam to Kim to Castro to Chavez, etc., etc., it IS exactly that.

"It has been derided as a useless debating society that all too often can't move effectively to prevent or stop wars"

Forget the innumerable atrocities of Iraq...the what's been happening in the entire continent of Africa mean anything to thinking Americans? WHAT crisis, exactly, has the UN EVER solved??

15 posted on 05/27/2003 1:09:10 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Xagon
Liberal Republicans are just as, if not more immoral than the anti-American grubby leftist who takes from our families to give to strangers
17 posted on 05/27/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by follow the money
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To: Xagon
I avoid clishees at all times.
18 posted on 05/27/2003 1:20:58 PM PDT by MEG33
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What As The U.N done in 5o years?
19 posted on 05/27/2003 1:21:15 PM PDT by follow the money
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Congressmen represent the American people and American interests. The US government serves the interests of the American people. If you wish to cheerlead for the UN, get off the people's payroll because you are not working for them. Any contributions beyond our borders by our government must be justified by benefits that somehow filter their way back to the American people; otherwise, all international charity and work should be carried out through private means.
20 posted on 05/27/2003 1:22:37 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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