Tax evader called leech, gets 30 months in prison

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Friday, May 23, 2003 | Torsten Ove

[Willie Green]

Convicted tax protester Karl Frank Kleinpaste was sentenced today to 30 months in federal prison after the judge scolded him for willfully not paying taxes and filing 49 frivolous pre-trial motions designed to waste the government's time.

Kleinpaste, a former Carnegie Mellon University computer programmer, hasn't paid his federal income taxes for nine years. Last year a jury convicted him of 10 counts of failure to file taxes and making false loan applications by sending banks fake tax forms indicating he did pay.

[Willie Green]

SOB thinks he doesn't have to pay taxes like the rest of us. Let him rot.

[Rodney King]

Good post. I think that the IRS is evil, but if you don't pay your taxes you will go to jail. Unfortuntely there are a few people on FR reccomending that people do this sort of thing.

[MineralMan]

30 months, eh? I'd be interested in knowing how much taxes this scofflaw owed for those 9 years. 30 months might not be too bad if the amount was large enough.

It's amazing to me that there are still people trying to convince others that they need not pay their federal taxes. I hope those who are considering this take note of this prison sentence and do the right thing.

I, for one, am tired of paying these scofflaws' taxes for them. Let them pay their share of the burden or lock 'em up.

[blackdog]

He belonged to the DNC, voted consistently for liberal candidates who want to raise federal spending, and published monthly newsletters featured on the DU website highlighting greedy American corporations.

He was a true democrat. The only thing that kept him from working at the Clinton Whitehouse is that he did have a skill.

[blackdog]

I don't know about the prison deterent? I am 43 right now. When I'm 50, I think I might like not doing the wash, cooking, cleaning, farm chores, walking on eggshells around my family.

30 months might just be a break for me. Play cards with guys, sleep a lot, exercise, do a lot of reading I've been wanting to do, and such.

Can I just get the time off even without the crime conviction?

[MineralMan]

"30 months might just be a break for me. Play cards with guys, sleep a lot, exercise, do a lot of reading I've been wanting to do, and such. "

There ya go. Just one thing to consider. There's a lot of bad guys in prison, and they might have some other activities in mind that would involve you.

[xrp]

If there was a federal retail sales tax instead of income tax, he couldn't have evaded.

[Gunslingr3]

I, for one, am tired of paying these scofflaws' taxes for them. Let them pay their share of the burden or lock 'em up.

How high would taxes have to get before you balked and quit paying? Is there a limit? Or do you figure as long as your neighbors vote to take it away from you, it's ok, no matter how much, or how it's spent?

[Gunslingr3]

If there was a federal retail sales tax instead of income tax, he couldn't have evaded.

Yeah, what black marketeer would stoop to reaping 20%+ profit margins on his competitors...

[Willie Green]

If there was a federal retail sales tax instead of income tax, he couldn't have evaded.

The NRST would be a great stimulus for the underground economy.
The black market would flourish.

[MineralMan]

"How high would taxes have to get before you balked and quit paying? "

Uh, we have other alternatives, you see. We keep electing legislators who impose these taxes. If you want lower taxes, work to elect folks who will do that. Apparently, the taxes aren't high enough to get people to do that yet.

I do not break laws. Period. I work to change the ones I don't think are right. That, my friend, is the American way, and I'm an American who believes that our Constitution provides all the mechanisms we need to elect legislators to do what we want them to do.

So far, the real tax reformers haven't been getting elected, so you have your answer.

[DonQ]

The ironic thing is that, for the next two and half years or so, the quality of his living conditions - especially the menu - will be directly related to the willingness of other people to pay their taxes.

[MineralMan]

"The ironic thing is that, for the next two and half years or so, the quality of his living conditions - especially the menu - will be directly related to the willingness of other people to pay their taxes."

I guess that's right. Well, depending on which federal prison he gets sent to, he could have a nice 2 1/2 years, or a terrible one. I suspect he's not going to like it very much, and that's a good thing.

[blackdog]

My dad used to work in a maximum security prison for 20 years. I lived on the property joining the prison farm. As a kid, in addition to our farm I had about 5,000 acres of state prison grounds to ride horses, hunt, fish, and hang out with the farm inmates. A few would come to our house to celebrate Christmas dinner each year and during the summer for barbeque's.

Yes, there are some real societal maniacs in prison, but on the whole, they are kept under serious security. My dad taught us what to do and how to behave should we ever end up in prison for one day or for 30 months. Essentially, never-ever become indebted to anyone in prison right from the first 30 seconds you are there. Keep your mouth shut. Keep your mouth shut. Keep your mouth shut.

[MineralMan]

"The NRST would be a great stimulus for the underground economy.
The black market would flourish."

I think you're right about that. Even now, the underground economy flourishes. That's why, when I buy stock for my web site at shows, I insist on receipts which include the name and address of the dealer, even if I pay cash. A few times, I've been refused, and passed on the purchase. Without a receipt, I can't demonstrate that I've purchased the stock, so I can't show it as a part of cost of goods sold.

I know what's going on, of course. These guys are making cash sales, but not reporting the income. Oh well. They won't get any of my money without a good receipt.

[Goodlife]

Hm... 30 mo's... during two "good" business years, I could exchange $120,000 for 30 mo's in jail. But my son would have the money. It might be a good trade.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Do like we do. Buy the best home in the best area you can possibly afford, stay out of all extra debt, do not use credit cards etc, avoid buying crap you don't need, do not buy new cars, keep old ones and maintain them, and make as little money as possible, just enough to get by.

Works for us very well and we contribute as little as possible to the governments tax confiscation.

[Aquinasfan]

Give to Caesar what's Caesar's...

[freeeee]

The only legitimate taxes are user fees.

The real leeches are those who such up socialist benefits that they didn't pay for, and that's the vast majority of the federal budget.

[Willie Green]

Yeah, what black marketeer would stoop to reaping 20%+ profit margins on his competitors...

Good to see you included the "+" in your statement.
NRST flying monkeys are actually proposing a 23% "tax inclusive" rate.
This translates to a 30% "price + tax" rate the way normal people calculate it.

Yeah, 30% provides quite an incentive for wholesalers to get into the retail black market.
Of course they'd be competing with more traditional black marketers who obtain their goods below wholesale through smuggling and hijacking.

Hmmmmmmm....
NRST legislation was originally introduced to Congress by convicted felon Jim Traficant.
It makes me wonder if there's a Teamster Union / organized crime backing for the NRST initiative.
Sure would make sense with the black market angle.
And Traficant's former district of Youngstown Ohio has a notorious history of mafioso related corruption....