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An Open Letter to David Horowitz
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | Thursday, May 22 @ 09:33:20 CDT | Rev. Louis P. Sheldon

Posted on 05/22/2003 12:47:51 PM PDT by Remedy

By Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition

Dear Mr. Horowitz:

First off, I want to express my appreciation for the significant work you have done in exposing the anti-American Left in the United States. Your FrontPageMagazine web site and your Center for the Study of Popular Culture have been important educational tools for concerned citizens to use in fighting the "hate America" crowd.

However, your recent editorial, "Pride Before the Fall," published on May 20, 2003, deserves a careful response.

In it, you discuss a meeting I attended along with other religious leaders with Republican National Committee Chairman Marc Racicot. The meeting was to discover the reasoning behind Racicot’s recent meeting with members of the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), a leftist homosexual group based in Washington, DC.

You attacked our meeting with Racicot as an example of intolerance and suggested we might exercise a bit more humility in addressing the issue of homosexuality.

I believe your comments were based upon two inaccurate assumptions about homosexual activism and homosexuality in general.

In the first place, you seem to be basing your views about homosexuality upon the incorrect assumption that homosexuality is genetic and unchangeable. This is untrue. Even homosexual researchers have now admitted that there’s no such thing as a "gay gene" and that homosexuality is a behavior.

I would urge you to read some of these comments, which have been published by the National Association for the Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). Their comments are available in "The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Science: In Their Own Words: Gay Activists Speak About Science, Morality, Philosophy".

In addition, Exodus International, a national group of ex-homosexuals, has produced a good deal of material on the causes and cures of homosexuality. I would encourage you to access the Exodus International web site for details: Exodus International.

Traditional Values Coalition has published a number of Homosexual Urban Legends that explain various faulty information and assumptions presented by homosexual activists. I would encourage you to read these: Homosexual Urban Legends.

Second, homosexual activists are not content to be tolerant of Christians and other faith groups or of our beliefs about homosexuality as a sin and a sexual perversion. Homosexual groups like HRC are determined to silence any opposition to the homosexual agenda. They are working aggressively to impose restrictions on our freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion—in public, private, and religious organizations. These efforts are typically carried out by imposing speech codes in schools and by passing "hate crime" laws that punish speech and religious expression.

Homosexuals are intolerant of anyone who opposes their agenda. And what is this agenda? It has been spelled out repeatedly throughout the past thirty years.

For example, at the 1993 homosexual March on Washington, homosexual activists issued a detailed list of their demands and goals. Among those demands was the lowering of the age of sexual consent so that homosexuals can gain legal access to children; the abolition of any laws prohibiting sexual behavior between "consenting adults" (legalizing prostitution and sodomy); and the passage of laws prohibiting so-called "discrimination" against drag queens, transsexuals, or cross-dressers in public employment. The March on Washington demands are available here: 1993 March on Washington Demands.

In 1987, two homosexual activists outlined how they would "overhaul straight America" in an article published by Guide magazine. These strategists created a marketing strategy designed to vilify their opponents and to portray themselves as "victims" in a media blitz that has gone on for years. You will learn a great deal about the homosexual agenda by reading this article: "The Overhauling of Straight America."

As a former Communist, you are undoubtedly aware of the Marxist background of Harry Hay, who is considered the father of the modern-day homosexual "rights" movement. Hay formed the Mattachine Society and based it upon the Communist cell principle and revolutionary activism.

You are also undoubtedly aware of Leslie Feinberg, a radical Marxist and male-to-female transgender who is an editor with the Worker’s World Party. Feinberg is fueling both transgender activism (blurring the distinctions between male and female) as well as being a major influence in the anti-war efforts by ANSWER and other anti-American groups. Feinberg and others view homosexuality and transgenderism as "sexual liberation" from all social norms.

The Human Rights Campaign is now partnering with GenderPac, a transgender group based in Washington, DC. HRC has also sponsored a "Two Spirit" event with transgender groups. At this conference, sexually confused girls were shown how to have their breasts removed so they could become "men."

This is where the homosexual movement is headed—and this is why Traditional Values Coalition is so opposed to the normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism in our society. These sexually confused individuals need counseling, not societal approval or "tolerance."

It is my hope that you will carefully read the resources I’ve mentioned to you in this letter and that you will take a principled stand against the spread of sexual confusion in our nation. Our children deserve to be protected from the purveyors of sexual perversion and dysfunction. We do them a disservice by "tolerating" those who wish to prey upon our children and who wish to stifle free speech and religion.

Sincerely,
Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
Chairman
Traditional Values Coalition


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Poll finds Santorum's support remains steady In an interview with The Associated Press published in late April, Santorum said he believed states have a right to ban gay sex or other private behaviors "antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family."

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery," he said.

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Republicans Confident Gay Rights Issue Will Hurt DeanRichard White (search), a Republican state senator from Mississippi, said any candidate talking about gay rights might as well not even visit his state.

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SODOMY : Texas Phys.Resource Council, Christian Med. & Dental Association, Catholic Med.Association Sodomy is an efficient method of transmitting STDs. And regardless of the reason, same-sex sodomy is far more effective in spreading STDs than opposite-sex sodomy. Multiple studies have estimated that 40 percent or more of men who practice anal sex acquire STDs. In fact, same-sex sodomy has resulted in the transformation of diseases previously transmitted only through fecally contaminated food and water into sexually caused diseases primarily among those who practice same-sex sodomy.


Mr. Horowitz Owes Christians an Apology; Latest conservative to go pro-'gay'

Christian conservatives and Torah-believing Jews oppose homosexual activism for three basic reasons:

1) The Bible and God’s natural design say it is wrong;

2) homosexuality is extremely unhealthy and hurts individuals, families and communities; and

3) homosexual activism threatens our most cherished freedoms of religion, speech and association.


Is Horowitz a friend of Bill, too - Salon Newsreal | The mysteries of Bill Clinton "My only enemy is right-wing religious fundamentalism."

FrontPage magazine.com i'm a heterosexual man who believes that most gays are homosexual by nature.

Horowitz has become victimized by the propaganda he so often rails against.

  1. The Three Myths About Homosexuality
  2. Selling Homosexuality To America
  3. Gay Rights Strategies Involve Conscious Deception And Wholesale Manipulation of Public Opinion

Horowitz should read his own mag - The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror

 

 

1 posted on 05/22/2003 12:47:51 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
This is a great and civil response to Horowitz by Rev. Sheldon. He handled this situation in a real Christian way, unlike some posters on FR.
2 posted on 05/22/2003 12:49:51 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: scripter; George W. Bush; sinkspur; Hank Kerchief
Horowitz corrected again.
3 posted on 05/22/2003 12:50:43 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Polycarp; Clint N. Suhks; steve-b; Howlin
Another letter to David, ping
4 posted on 05/22/2003 12:56:36 PM PDT by Remedy
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Second, homosexual activists are not content to be tolerant of Christians and other faith groups or of our beliefs about homosexuality as a sin and a sexual perversion. Homosexual groups like HRC are determined to silence any opposition to the homosexual agenda. They are working aggressively to impose restrictions on our freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion—in public, private, and religious organizations. These efforts are typically carried out by imposing speech codes in schools and by passing "hate crime" laws that punish speech and religious expression.

Homosexuals are intolerant of anyone who opposes their agenda. And what is this agenda? It has been spelled out repeatedly throughout the past thirty years

Inoohr_org_index.htm This essay was printed in the February 15, 1987 issue of the homosexual newspaper Gay Community News by Michael Swift, and was reprinted in the February 15-21 1987 Congressional Record. EXCERPT

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.
If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.
There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you.
We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!

This Version was printed in "The Advocate"

Steve Warren seems to want to rewrite the Bible, what do you think?

Recently, homosexual author Steve Warren told Christians what gays expect of them. In The Advocate, the nation's largest and most mainstream homosexual publication, he says: "Here are some of the things you will be expected to affirm. ...

1. Henceforth, homosexuality will be spoken of in your churches and synagogues as an 'honorable estate.'

2. You can either let us marry people of the same sex, or better yet abolish marriage altogether. ...

3. You will be expected to offer ceremonies that bless our sexual arrangements. ... You will also instruct your people in homosexual as well as heterosexual behavior, and you will go out of your way to make certain that homosexual youths are allowed to date, attend religious functions together, openly display affection, and enjoy each other's sexuality without embarrassment or guilt.

4. If any of the older people in your midst object, you will deal with them sternly, making certain they renounce their ugly and ignorant homophobia or suffer public humiliation.

5. You will also make certain that ... laws are passed forbidding discrimination against homosexuals and heavy punishments are assessed. ...

6. Finally, we will in all likelihood want to expunge a number of passages from your Scriptures and rewrite others, eliminating preferential treatment of marriage and using words that will allow for homosexual interpretations of passages describing biblical lovers such as Ruth and Boaz or Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Warning: If all these things do not come to pass quickly, we will subject Orthodox Jews and Christians to the most sustained hatred and vilification in recent memory. We have captured the liberal establishment and the press. We have already beaten you on a number of battlefields. ... You have neither the faith nor the strength to fight us, so you might as well surrender now."


 

Romans 1: 28 - 32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Homosexuality and the Nazi PartyOne of the keys to understanding both the rise of Nazism and the later persecution of some homosexuals by the Nazis is found in this early history of the German "gay rights" movement. For it was the CS which created and shaped what would become the Nazi persona, and it was the loathing which these "Butches" held for effeminate homosexuals ("Femmes") which led to the internment of some of the latter in slave labor camps in the Third Reich.

More significantly, many of the guards and administrators responsible for the infamous concentration camp atrocities were homosexuals themselves, which negates the proposition that homosexuals in general were being persecuted and interned.

The enduring "Butch/Femme" conflict among German homosexuals clearly had a substantial bearing on the treatment of pink-triangle prisoners.

...While the neo-pagans were busy attacking from without, liberal theologians undermined Biblical authority from within the Christian church. The school of so-called "higher criticism," which began in Germany in the late 1800s, portrayed the miracles of God as myths; by implication making true believers (Jew and Christian alike) into fools. And since the Bible was no longer accepted as God's divine and inerrant guide, it could be ignored or reinterpreted. By the time the Nazis came to power, "Bible-believing" Christians, (the Confessing Church) were a small minority. As Grunberger asserts, Nazism itself was a "pseudo-religion" (ibid.:79) that competed, in a sense, with Christianity and Judaism.

From the early years, leading Nazis openly attacked Christianity. Joseph Goebbels declared that "Christianity has infused our erotic attitudes with dishonesty" (Taylor:20). It is in this campaign against Judeo- Christian morality that we find the reason for the German people's acceptance of Nazism's most extreme atrocities. Their religious foundations had been systematically eroded over a period of decades by powerful social forces. By the time the Nazis came to power, German culture was spiritually bankrupt. Too often, historians have largely ignored the spiritual element of Nazi history; but if we look closely at Hitler's campaign of extermination of the Jews, it becomes clear that his ostensive racial motive obscures a deeper and more primal hatred of the Jews as the "People of God."

The probable reason for Hitler's attack on Christianity was his perception that it alone had the moral authority to stop the Nazi movement. But Christians stumbled before the flood of evil. As Poliakov notes, "[W]hen moral barriers collapsed under the impact of Nazi preaching...the same anti-Semitic movement that led to the slaughter of the Jews gave scope and license to an obscene revolt against God and the moral law. An open and implacable war was declared on the Christian tradition...[which unleashed] a frenzied and unavowed hatred of Christ and the Ten Commandments" (Poliakov:300).

"The Nazi Master Plan: The Persecution Of The Christian Churches"

SODOMY : Communists And Homosexuals

5 posted on 05/22/2003 1:02:51 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Wonderful response by Sheldon to Horowitz.
6 posted on 05/22/2003 1:03:49 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Dataman; LiteKeeper; RAT Patrol
Horowitz set STRAIGHT.
7 posted on 05/22/2003 1:06:22 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Where does sodomy between consenting adults of separate genders fit into all of this? Is it sodomy or homosexuality that is issue?

I don't have a position either way here, I'm just genuinely curious about what seems to be a fluid equivalency between homosexuality and sodomy as core terms in this debate.
8 posted on 05/22/2003 1:07:52 PM PDT by Herodotus
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To: Remedy
Horowitz should read his own mag - The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror

You're right. I hadn't noticed it was published by him previously. Apparently, he can't connect the dots despite the fact that the two leaders of the 9/11 attacks were both sodomites.
9 posted on 05/22/2003 1:12:57 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Herodotus
SODOMY : Texas Phys.Resource Council, Christian Med. & Dental Association, Catholic Med.Association

II. THE P ROHIBITION OF SAME - SEX SODOMY IS RATIONALLY RELATED TO THE STATE ' S INTEREST IN PUBLIC HEALTH

A. The State Has a Legitimate Interest in Regulating Public Health

This Court has long recognized the validity of state regulation of public health and morality. 6 Railroad Co. v. Husen , 95 U.S. 465, 470-71 (1877) (state's police power "is generally said to extend to making regulations promotive of domestic order, morals, health and safety"). Soon after ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, this Court held that it did not affect a state's police power: But neither the [Fourteenth] amendmentbroad and comprehensive as it isnor any other amendment, was designed to interfere with the power of the state, some- times termed its police power, to prescribe regulations to promote the health, peace, morals, education, and good order of the people . . . .

Barbier v. Connolly , 113 U.S. 27, 31 (1884); see also L'Hote v. City of New Orleans , 177 U.S. 587, 596 (1900) ("It has been often said that the police power was not by the Federal Constitution transferred to the nation, but was reserved to the states, and that upon them rests the duty of so exercising it as to protect the public health and morals"). The Court has continued to recognize the valid exercise of police powers promoting public health and morality in recent years. City of Erie v. Pap's A.M. , 529 U.S. 277, 298 (2000) ("Erie's efforts to protect public health and safety are clearly within the city's police powers"); Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc. , 501 U.S. 560, 569 (1991) ("The traditional police power of the States is defined as the authority to provide for the public health, safety, and morals, and we have upheld such a basis for legislation").

C. Same-sex Sodomy Is More Harmful to the Public Health than Is Opposite-sex Sodomy

IV. RATIONALITY DOES NOT REQUIRE TEXAS TO TREAT SAME - SEX SODOMY LIKE OPPOSITE - SEX SODOMY

10 posted on 05/22/2003 1:13:57 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Pyro7480
I suppose The Lord's response to the sodomites of Sodom & Gomorrah wasnt too Christian either...
But wait ...Jesus is God
11 posted on 05/22/2003 1:15:33 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Herodotus

States with sodomy laws which apply to heterosexuals and homosexuals


12 posted on 05/22/2003 1:17:17 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: joesnuffy
I wasn't talking about that. The people of Sodom had it coming to them. I was talking about name-calling and rudeness of some who post to such threads.
13 posted on 05/22/2003 1:17:28 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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To: Remedy
Interesting post. Thanks, as always.

Sheldon's points well met.

14 posted on 05/22/2003 1:22:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: tpaine
READ ALL OF IT!
15 posted on 05/22/2003 1:22:55 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
No thanks
16 posted on 05/22/2003 1:24:35 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: tdadams
post #15
17 posted on 05/22/2003 1:27:59 PM PDT by Remedy
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Horowitz corrected.
18 posted on 05/22/2003 1:31:48 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: breakem; kegler4
post#17
19 posted on 05/22/2003 1:35:19 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Pyro7480
Name calling? Like what?
20 posted on 05/22/2003 1:38:14 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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