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Man wielding machete shot dead
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | May 10, 2003 | Michael Burge and Pauline Repard

Posted on 05/10/2003 8:59:41 AM PDT by Ipse Dixit

Ex-girlfriend was staying at new boyfriend's home.

VISTA – A man armed with a machete was shot to death yesterday while apparently invading a home where his ex-girlfriend was staying with another man, the Sheriff's Department said.

Homicide Lt. Terry Wisniewski said detectives were trying to determine whether Philip Carmine Stuckey, 45, killed the other man in self-defense, or whether he fired after any threat had passed.

"All the physical evidence supports his statements, at this point," Wisniewski said. Stuckey was not arrested.

The name of the 39-year-old deceased man was not released.

The shooting occurred about 6 a.m. on La Rueda Road, near Monte Vista Drive, on a rural property with two houses, a garage and a trailer.

Stuckey's girlfriend, Darlene Bechthold, 34, had moved into the guest house with him Thursday night. His parents live in the main house, Wisniewski said.

He said the man who was killed reportedly was upset over Bechthold's new relationship.

Wisniewski said it appears he came onto the property with a machete early yesterday and chased Stuckey into the house, yelling that he would kill Stuckey.

Stuckey grabbed a shotgun and shot the man once. When the man turned toward Bechthold while still holding the machete, Stuckey shot him again. Bechthold ran outside and Stuckey, thinking the man was chasing her, fired a third time.

A trail of blood showed where the wounded man ran across the property, dropped the machete in the grass, then climbed a fence and got into his parked car.

"He got in the car, his left foot still outside, and he died there," Wisniewski said.

Detectives interviewed Stuckey, Bechthold and Steven Edwards, who had accompanied the ex-boyfriend to the house but was found a short distance away. Edwards said he walked away before the confrontation but heard the gunshots.

"Everyone has been released," Wisniewski said last evening.

Investigators obtained a warrant late yesterday afternoon and began searching the property.

He said if evidence supports the residents' account of the incident, Stuckey might not face any charges.

"If somebody tries to break into your home, you have the right to defend yourself," Wisniewski said. "Once you're safe and the threat is neutralized, you can't continue the assault."

The slaying occurred within hours of a killing in San Diego involving an ex-boyfriend.

San Diego police said a Normal Heights woman was stabbed to death in her apartment late Thursday by an ex-boyfriend, who then tried to kill himself by cutting his wrists. He was in critical condition at a hospital.

The San Diego victim had recently obtained a restraining order against the ex-boyfriend, police said yesterday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: exgirlfriend; stupid
Taking a knife to a gunfight. Not smart.
1 posted on 05/10/2003 8:59:41 AM PDT by Ipse Dixit
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To: Ipse Dixit
Took three tries with a shotgun? This guy sure isn't a dove hunter.
2 posted on 05/10/2003 9:02:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (There's fast.... and then there's Slim fast....)
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To: Ipse Dixit
The guy with the machete would've been better off cutting his grass with it instead of taking it to a fight......
3 posted on 05/10/2003 9:02:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (Who the hell wants to hear actors talk? - H. M. Warner (1881-1958), Warner Brothers founder)
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To: Ipse Dixit
Didn't I see this scene in Indiana Jones?
4 posted on 05/10/2003 9:04:06 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Free Miguel and Priscilla!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Took three tries with a shotgun? This guy sure isn't a dove hunter.

Maybe he is! Maybe it took three shots because the gun was loaded with birdshot.

5 posted on 05/10/2003 9:08:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: Ipse Dixit
Love triangles are never smart.
6 posted on 05/10/2003 9:12:39 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: So Cal Rocket
Raiders of the Lost Ark, to be exact.
7 posted on 05/10/2003 9:13:02 AM PDT by RichInOC (...I hate snakes...)
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To: Ipse Dixit
Homicide Lt. Terry Wisniewski said detectives were trying to determine whether Philip Carmine Stuckey, 45, killed the other man in self-defense, or whether he fired after any threat had passed.

That's a stupid statement. That psycho is a constant threat. If my girlfriend's ex-hubby shows up on my doorstep with a machete and tries to break in, I'm not going to interview him to find out how willing he is to use that machete. Me and my .44 magnum are going to solve his problems permanently, and the determinations of his motives will be done post-mortem.

8 posted on 05/10/2003 9:19:24 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: FITZ
Give the guy a break, he might not have even known that this kind of situation existed. The jilted ex-boyfriend forced the confrontation and got exactly what he deserved.
9 posted on 05/10/2003 9:31:03 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Ipse Dixit
The shooting occurred about 6 a.m....

These things sure happen in the early morning hours a lot. These kind of confrontations very often happen when the jilted ex has been drinking heavily, so maybe this guy was drinking all night before this happened. He sure wasn't thinking straight.

10 posted on 05/10/2003 9:36:34 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Maybe it took three shots because the gun was loaded with birdshot.

At close range, even #8 shot should have done him in immediately. I'll bet the guy was a big, mean, and loaded up on something. Or the shooter was shooting at legs or something and trying not to kill him.

11 posted on 05/10/2003 9:42:34 AM PDT by templar
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'm not blaming the new boyfriend at all ---I just commented on the dangers of these love triangles --it's interesting how many turn deadly. Obviously the old boyfriend should have let go. A woman here was killed by a boyfriend she was trying to dump while her husband was off at work and her kids were playing outside ---she had found a new boyfriend and didn't want the old one around anymore ---it was a murder suicide. Luckily the kids still have their dad.
12 posted on 05/10/2003 10:08:55 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Ipse Dixit
That lady must have had some really good stuff if it was worth dying for. Life's a b!tch, then you die.
13 posted on 05/10/2003 10:09:12 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
you have the right to defend yourself...."Once you're safe... you can't continue the assault."

So defending yourself is assault, now.
Maybe we should change the DOD to
the Department of Assault.  Oh, what,
that would be DOA.  Never mind.  
14 posted on 05/10/2003 10:13:18 AM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: Ipse Dixit
Welcome to Kalifornia. Some psycho breaks into your pad and attacks you with a machete. You kill the lunatic and the local DA then expends every possible effort to prosecute you!

One of the hallmarks of a criminal government is its desire to ensure all its subjects are defenseless against criminals. If people are allowed to protect themselves against machete wielding nuts who knows what might happen? Some day these citizens might defend themselves against the criminals who run the cities and the DAs who exist mainly to protect government crime and keep the citizens in line.

15 posted on 05/10/2003 10:14:53 AM PDT by Seruzawa (commies- nuke 'em til they glow and shoot 'em in the dark.)
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To: Ipse Dixit
Here is how it is done:

Man shot several times at apartment identified
A man shot to death when a gunman kicked in the door of a north Houston apartment has been identified as Kirk Boris Jeffers, 27.

He was shot several times in the torso around 11 p.m. Wednesday at 1333 Gears.

Jeffers was visiting a woman who had recently broken up with her boyfriend, police said. The boyfriend knocked on the door, but the pair refused to answer. He then kicked in the door and opened fire before fleeing, police said.

Anyone with information is asked to call the police Homicide Division at 713-308-3600 or Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/1902590
16 posted on 05/10/2003 10:25:50 AM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: gcruse
It's interesting how the home defender becomes the perpetrator if he doesn't quite know the laws and can't consult a lawyer in the middle of a home-invasion. In our twisted society, intent means nothing and the smallest legal technicalities mean everything. The homeowner should be given wide latitude in these cases. Nothing would have happened if some crazy (and probably drunk) jilted ex-boyfriend hadn't showed up at the house swinging a machete in the commission of a home-invasion.
17 posted on 05/10/2003 10:55:34 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
That's a stupid statement.

You are very correct, sir. If the individual is trespassing on your property with a weapon, he is a threat until he leaves the premises. This S.O. Homicide Lt. should know that.

It sounds like he's building a case for the attorney of the decedent’s family.

18 posted on 05/10/2003 11:40:50 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Jagdgewehr
Right on. If a jilted ex-boyfriend is brazen enough to show up at your house wielding a machete while trying to break in, he's not there to drink coffee and socialize.

VERY VERY often, people that do this are under the influence, which makes it even more likely that they'll do something to hurt/kill somebody in your house. Having a 911 operator on the phone isn't going to help you at this point.

19 posted on 05/10/2003 1:23:30 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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