THE ROAD ENDS FOR WMD ON WHEELS

New York Post ^ | 5/08/03 | NILES LATHEM

[kattracks]

May 8, 2003 -- WASHINGTON - A suspected mobile germ warfare factory has been seized by the U.S. military in northern Iraq - the first solid evidence that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, the Pentagon said yesterday.

American forces in Iraq are conducting a battery of tests on what they believe is a mobile biological-weapons lab that is similar to the descriptions of vehicles provided to U.S. intelligence agencies by Iraqi defectors before the war.

[NMFXSTC]

"A suspected mobile germ warfare factory has been seized by the U.S. military in northern Iraq - the first solid evidence that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction..."

Oh boy! "Solid" evidence? That suspected stuff is about as solid and concrete as it gets, huh? "No traces of biological agents were initially discovered because the trailer was wiped clean with some kind of bleach..."

Yep...probably some sort of "stealth/top secret" kinda Chlorox...ya can't trust those guys!

Another "credible" find...like our homeland defense color alerts? I am still trying to find out where that color thingy is posted each day...flags, a little thingy in the corner of the TV screen...where?)

[The Great Satan]

Speaking to Pentagon reporters via satellite up-link, Wallace added he believes that the Iraqis never used chemical or biological weapons during the war because they were so carefully hidden from U.N. inspectors that there simply wasn't time to deploy the weapons in the face of the quick advance. "Inspectors only left Baghdad a few days before the start of the campaign. Because they were so clever in disguising them and burying them so deep, they themselves had a problem getting to it," Wallace said.

You might get a few chuckles out of this.

[Imal]

Meanwhile, my trusty elephant-repelling ring still works. I haven't been attacked by an elephant yet!

[piasa]

I reckon you're the type who thinks these things are for "food testing?"

And who thinks that aluminum tubing toleranced to a mirror finish on the INSIDE was for "rocket fuselages."

And who thinks all that aerosil Iraq purchased was for "cosmetcs," even though it doesn't look like anyone over there has a clue on how to use them.

And who thinks those missiles Iraq had in violation of the cease fire terms were "just a mistake" caused by Iraqi engineers not converting their SI measurements to American standard correctly.

And who thinks those warheads Blix found in Iraq, including one which was filled, were really pinatas for multicultural children's parties.

And who thinks that Scott Ritter really wasn't bribed by Iraq through their agent in the US. (And Ritter did too know it was a cop he was conversing with!)

And who thinks that Galloway had an honest job as Iraq's public relations minister.

And who thinks that Abu Nidal really did commit suicide in Iraq and didn't have a thing to do with transactions between the Iraqi government and Palestinian groups backing suicide bombers.

And who thinks that leaving millions of US dollars lying about in old houses is an indicator of honest banking.

And who thinks that terorist training base was really just a college dorm.

And who thinks all those nuclear scientists in Iraq were studying nothing and working as ice cream slaesmen for lack of anything better to do.

And who thinks that Iraq filmed and blackmailed a UN inspector "for nothing."

And who thinks that Iraq bought Mercedes to give to journalists all over in order to obtain "fair and balanced coverage" during the inspections process.

And who thinks that Iraq decided to endure sanctions when it had nothing up its sleeve.

And who thinks that the folks at Halabja and 100 or more other villages were simultaneously scalded by teakettles and not chemicle warfare agents.

And who thinks that Iraq really didn't mean it when it admitted to aflatoxin research and development.

And who thinks Iraq had to smuggle capacitors through London because it had a real need for them in some booming Iraqi business as yet unexplained.

And who thinks that stocking schools and hospitals with RPGs and AK-47s is legitimate and perfectly normal.

And who thinks that the Tigris has natural deposits of mustard in it.

And who thinks that those memos in Baghdad asking for funding and also paying for lodging and transportation for an "al-Qaeda envoy" in Sudan - bin Laden- to visit Iraq was to converse with them on planning for the next Summer Olympics in Khartoum and Iraq really had no idea he was a terrorist.

And who thinks that Zarqawi was a loose cannon who stayed in Baghdad on his own, got medical care there, and then went on to arrange the murder of the US official Foley just for kicks and not because it was OK with Iraq.

And who thinks that Cynthia McKinney was there out of the goodness of her heart and not for monetary gain when she visited Iraq...

And who thiks that Iraq confiscated documents on chemical weapons from UN inspectors because those documents were really Hillary's Whitewater files and they were concerned for her.

And who thinks that call from the Abu Sayaff terrorists in the Philippines to the Iraqi embassy to announce their success had nothing to do with the death of a US Green Beret in a bombing there.

And when UNSCOM dismantled that German centrifuge they were in error- it was really an elaborate and harmless food processor.

And in May 2001 Iraq promoted their bioweapons scientist Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash to Baath Party regional command because she looked sexy in tight turtlenecks and it really didn't have a thing to do with her interest in deadly pathogens.

And who thinks that Iraqi state-run press article praising bin Laden was a type-o.

And Hussein's open letter read on Iraqi radio which glorified the use of bioterrorism... was just a moment of sneility and he was really thinking of poounding his enemies with powdered-sugar donuts.

And who thinks Iraq was shooting down drones (right up to, on, and through 9/11) because they might spot the secret Iraqi Ministry of Agriculture goat-breeding project.

[palmer]

And who thinks that aluminum tubing toleranced to a mirror finish on the INSIDE was for "rocket fuselages."

I reckon you're the type who thinks rocket fuselages should only be polished on the OUTSIDE.

[piasa]

And who thinks that it's perfectly routine for Iraqis to rush up to UN inspectors shouting "save me, save me!" before being hauled off by Iraqi police.

And who buys that story about Iraqi scientists not wanting to talk to UN inspectors until after a selected few had been taught to memerize their talking points, but were never trusted with talking to the UN in private.

And who thinks that claiming your nation is starving while there are storehouses full of grain was the result of an accounting error.

As was that little decades long misunderstanding with Iranian POWs, and that decade long deal with captured Kuwaitis- some 600 were "lost in the system," and didn't meet untimely deaths as trest subjects or anything. they will turn up at a "communistu center" one day... with their babysitter Capt. Speicher.

And Iraq just lost count of those missiles it had...owing to forgetting them after scattering them about in ditches, under chicken coops, and so on. You know how those Teamsters are- they get paid by the hour and without AC in their caps they have been known to park under trees for shade and nap.

And the army which bought cheap plastic helmets for its troops instead of decent ones was seriously convered about US bioweapons - enough to buy all the injectors they could possibly need - and none of that protection equipment they had was for protection against their own stuff, which of course they never had in spite of admitting to it over the years when pressed real hard.

And who thinks the infamous UN leakers had a desire to inform Iraq ahead of time so Iraq could hide what it didn't have...

And who thinks that Castro told Iraq to destroy what it didn't have the first week of March because Castro was part of a US plot to make the world think innocent Iraq was guilty.

And who thinks Iraq buried and airplane just for the fun of it - and not to hide anything.

Yeah, that's the ticket...!

[palmer]

And who thinks a huge laundry list of innuendo will hide the fact that no evidence of WMD have been found even though Iraq was alleged to have thousands of gallons of nerve agents, anthrax, etc, etc.

[piasa]

Do you polish the inside of a hand grenade or mortar shell so you can see Mr. Clean in the reflection? Nope- of course not..... unless you want to lob a $12,000 hand grenade. The ratio of cost to benefit for a rocket of the nature Iraq claimed to be designing with those tolerances wouldn't be even remotely favorable.

[highpockets]

Only those with security clearances higher than the Moon actually know about Iraqs WMD.

But it makes great spin for those who hate the president and can not stand Americas success.

[alnick]

Evidence of WMD:

The mobile lab just recovered.

Cyanide and mustard in the Euphrates.

Chem suits and atropine found in large quantities in Iraq.

A large amount of documentary evidence of a WMD program reported by Gen. Wallace.

[Cameron1]

Would love to be there when we take the evidence to ole Tariq Aziz and say I though you said this stuff didn't exist. No deal for you bud......you will now be held for war crimes.

[varon]

And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..And who thinks..............

There's a whole lot of thinkin' goin' on out theah ;-)

[guitfiddlist]

I find it very interesting...no...actually bloody typical, that the carping pinheads on the left refuse to go ON RECORD and say "There ARE no WMD's, there never WERE any WMD's, it was all a sham to get personal revenge on Saddam."

No, the cowards refuse to put themselves on the line. Instead, they snipe from the safety of the sidelines, with curious complaints, like "Well...it's taking really LONG to find those WMD's!" (The prissy little twits won't actually say there aren't any). Or "Our intelligence is really bad if we can't find 3 ounce vials of toxins in a country the size of California within a couple weeks of its defeat."

Come on critics! Have the courage of your "convictions". If you have any convictions beyond "Man, I like really hate Bush....and I'm gonna bitch and moan like a 2-year old about anything he does." Go on record. Put your money where that big, fat mouth of yours is. Tell us there are no WMD's. State it publicly and stick around for when your dung sandwiches are finally ready. We'll be happy to serve them...and force-feed you like Peking ducks.

[palmer]

Where's the thousands of gallons of stuff? It's essentially impossible to dispose of it. As I stated before the war, Iraq didn't represent a threat. Now it is becoming increasingly obvious that I was correct.

[piasa]

LOL

They keep saying there isn't any WMD because we haven't found this or that in 50 days (most of which is kind of occupied with pacification and shooting at hostiles)... Yet they all - and Iraq and Bliz and ElBaradei too- admit that Iraq bought and took delivery on thousands of aluminum tubes for this "prioeless" rocket program of theirs.

Problem is, we haven't found the aluminum tubes or the rocket program Iraq openly confessed to yet, either...

You'd think that would be easy... since everyone knows they were purchased, and they were paid for, and they were shipped. But it isn't. Iraq may have them inside the country hidden, or it may have them stored outside, as it has did before. (They stored some equipment in the Jordanian desert before, and elsewhere.)

They seem to think this stuff is going to be bar coded on a WalMart shelf somewhere in plain sight, and don't even pay attention to the most important part- eliminating the development of WMD, and eliminating the sort of regime which is hosts terrorists and is willing to use terrorists as proxies.

[palmer]

Secret knowledge of WMD is great spin for waging war against anybody, anytime, any reason. If it was in our interests to invade Iraq, then prove it.

[Mr_Slippery]

Of course, the Bush administration just doesn't realise that their "mobile bio-weapons lab" is simply the Iraqi version of a rolling vaccination program--the free health care dispensary for all Iraqi children...
..or, it's a high-tech "bookmobile", where young students of Dr. Germ and Mrs. Anthrax learn the fine points of gene splicing of military toxins.
--I'm tired

[palmer]

There are no WMD's (other than a few leftovers from the 80's).

[Night Hides Not]

Forgive me for not reading your posts in their entirety...I can't handle so much thinking this early in the morning.

Excellent analyis, piasa. Isn't it amazing that all these people wanted to give Hans Blix and his people another six months or more, but aren't willing to give our folks 30 days?

If the liberals were smart, they would have read Bush's book, A Charge to Keep. Dubya let everyone know who he really is with that book. I keep thinking of the movie Patton, where after he beat Rommel in battle, Patton triumphantly exalts:

ROMMEL, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD! I READ YOUR BOOK!

As I've stated before, George W. Bush is one man I would not want to play poker against.

Before the summer is out, I am confident that tons of WMD agents will be discovered.

[guitfiddlist]

There are no WMD's (other than a few leftovers from the 80's).

I appreciate your forthrightness. Of course, I would also expect that you will be available here to discuss any developments on this front in the future, as events do unfold (all eyes on the mobile lab at the moment).

[palmer]

I'll be here. I would like to be proven wrong and that our actions in Iraq were defensive. If it turns out that there are no WMD, I hope you are around in a few years to help evaluate the cost/benefit of nation building.

[barker]

Where's the thousands of gallons of stuff?

Are you my brother? You sound just like him. He's been on this rant ever since our troops took Baghdad.

[palmer]

Just tell him to shut up!

[piasa]

Iraq failed to account for what Iraq admitted it had.

Folks evidently are confused about how the inspections process worked.

Originally, Iraq was required to submit an accounting of its arsenal- and its equipment, and its R&D programs. (At least that which it had agreed to dispose of at the cease fire.)

Using Iraq's very own documents, the inspectors were sent to Iraq to verify that Iraq was telling the truth. If Iraq was found to be lying about what it said it had, it was in "material breach" and naturally, this should void the cease fire, just as a person who violates the term of his probation should immediately be taken into custody even if it means a fight. Failure to bring the miscreant to justice invites more crime and defiance.

As it did in our case- Bush 1's unwillingness to finish the war - and at the time he may or may not have been able to get congress to back the idea of finishing it- made the US look vulnerable politically, and this was confirmed since Hussein outlasted Bush when Bush lost the election. As soon as he lost, Hussein tested the new administration and found it wanting. It was unwillinging to force inspections with any degree of seriousness, preferring instead to drop bombs in the desert so as to look tough without risking civilian casualties. The administration was so leaky that it told the UN everything it was doing, endangering the lives of our personnel and effectively projecting every move we and the inspectors were making to the Iraqis so they could move things and hide things before inspections. Hussein dug in his heels.

Clinton's repeated failure to make Iraq comply over the years confirmed the Arab opinion that the US was weak and told Hussein that he could survive Clinton.

It also invited terrorism when Clinton only fired some cruise missiles at an abandoned training camp when Iraq tried to assassinate the former President. Then when Clinton ran like a beaten coydog, tail between his legs in Somalia, we looked perilously weak and like a very inviting target. And when he did nothing after the embassy bombings, Khobar Towers and the USS Cole, Hussein and bin Laden and anyone else out there who wanted a piece of us got a kick out of that. Hussein refused to cooperate. Bin Laden planned more ambitiously, believing that the utter destruction of the US was within reach.

If we played the weak game yet again then we would invite certain disaster. After years of this, Hussein or any other nutjob or hostile state out there would come to believe that we woould cower if he covertly used wmd on us. They seemed to believe just that before 911, or up to the invasion of Afghanistan. What reason would Iraq, Syria, North Korea,Cuba, or Iran have to believe we would go nuclear on them if we were attacked by a "stateless" terror group? None. Until 911, there was no reason to believe such a crime could not be carried out with impunity so long as it was carefully made to look as if the perps were "stateless," or like they were associated with another state.

One 911 was enough; twelve years of defiance and really, almost continuous defeats since 1979's iranian hostage crisis and the 80s Beirut- left us with no respect and nothing but dead to show for it. We should have enforced this "cease fire" long ago. We should have been bold enough a people to finish the job the first time.

WMD disarmament works when the country is willing to do as it agreed to do, because a willing country will provide an accurate accounting in the first place. Some countries are willing to give up WMD in exchange for trade benefits, etc. These provide accurate books and their books are easily verified and crosschecked when they allow free access to employees. Iraq was another matter; once it was clear we were not going to enforce the cease fire, they set out to obstruct the entire process.

Actually, they planned this from day one when they turned in their first dossier. It was innaccurate; receipts didn't match, known orders were not accounted for, etc. Inspectors trying to verify one of Iraq's claims stumbled onto orders for hiding other things; or onto dissidents whose words panned out, etc.

Eventually, after a few years, some inspectors found ways to trip up the Iraqis- and they did this by not giving information about their plans to the UN, which kept the UN from tipping off Iraq.

Iraq eventually got frustrated with being caught, so it kicked out inpectors, then let them back in after getting concessions from the UN, or buying time to hide everything again. Iraq tried blackmail and bribery to some success.

Iraq had it easy- all they ever had to do was list what they had. This would have been easily verified as no one need lie, and what went into Iraq could be accounted for, without those awkward discrepencies between what they said was used in civilian factories, usded in war or exercises, what they said was stored, and what was originally purchased.

The inspections process wasn't to find what the US said Iraq had... or to have the inspectors prove Iraq had things. It was Iraq's job to prove that its dossier was true. But after more than a decade, Iraq still wasn't even able to prove its own claims.

[ravingnutter]

Just tell him to shut up!

Okay...SHUT UP!

Seriously though...the UN had 5 month after Res. 1441 and the left wanted to give them another month. They should at least give Bush the same consideration. FWIW, they DID find banned weapons BEFORE the war, do you remember the Al Samoud II missiles they crushed? And what about the chemical warheads that Saddam failed to account for? Even Blix stated that they produced no "clear evidence" of the destruction of biological and chemical weapons and agents. IMHO, we already have the evidence...Bush is waiting until just the right moment to serve crow to the Dems. It's called strategery...

[palmer]

I'm not confused about the inspections process, I'm waiting to find out what the threat was from Iraq to see if that justified a defensive war. If Iraq covertly used WMD on us, then Congress should have looked at that evidence and declared war in retaliation.

[aSkeptic]

the carping pinheads on the left
Don't forget about the 'carping pinheads' on the right! We just want the government's feet held to the fire. Go ahead and hold the journalist's feet to the fire too, false reports are getting tiring. The find of the story is a good one but it is not enough. GB will not be reelected if the WMDs are not found to a satisfactory degree. What is satisfactory you ask? I will be satisfied when we have confiscated at least a ton of anthrax or a ton of one type of nerve agent before the election. Powell declared that Iraq has "8500 liters of anthrax" and by conservative estimates "between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent". I'm going to take Powell at his word.

I empathize with the difficulty of finding these materials. 1000 liters can fit into a cubic meter. A small fleet of ryder vans could transport their entire stockpile to any part of Iraq in a matter of days. If these materials are buried the only way we'll find them (in our lifetimes at least) is with the aid of former workers of the Baath regime. Loyalty to the Baath regime is surely fading quick. With their help our search will go much quicker.

In any case GB's deadline is 60 days before election.

It is imperative to the safety of the USA and the world that we secure those materials for all the reasons Powell described and more.

 

[palmer]

I hope you are right. A few pictures of WMD to help impress voters to vote for the better party, I'm all for it.

[joesbucks]

But I remember we were calling Blix Inspector Clouseau cause he was looking in the wrong places, cause we "knew" where they were but couldn't tell him cause it would have compromised our intelligence assets. I also remember us rushing to various sites where we "knew" where these weapons were stored only to find nothing. Nothing was said at that time about being hidden or in other countries, just Blix was an idiot and was looking in the wrong places and we knew where they were.

Certain of the facilities and weapons could be hidden. But especially the nukes and nuclear program can and could not be easily hidden or transported.

If we can clean up that trouble spot, then this effort was worth the trouble. I'm skeptical we can. But the effort was based on several reasons to clean out Sadam and his regime. But central and among the MOST IMPORTANT was his "active" weapons of mass destruction program.

Obviously we staked our reputation on terribly old or horrible mis-information which means that administratively we're fools OR about this part of the campaign, we as the public were intentionally mis-informed and leadership believed that something would be found to make cover for it.

[omegatoo]

Seriously, and not trying to be rude, what exactly are you waiting for?

Will finding one mobile lab that was used later than 1991 be enough? Or will you say that one lab is obviously not enough to be a real threat to us? Must the chemicals actually be in the lab?

Will finding evidence that Saddam provided ONE dollar to Osama be enough, or will you say that one dollar really didn't make a difference in what bin Laden did?

Exactly how many gallons of chemical or biological weapons is your threshold?

O2

[NMFXSTC]

piasa< I sure hope you cut and pasted there, because less than 10% of that rant has nothing to do with WMD.

No, I do not "think that, etc. etc. etc."...what I know is that the inspectors (which was our initial thrust into this thing, by the way...getting them reinserted) did not find any evidence of WMD, that each an every "news flash" (from Saddam being KIA to freeing the Iraqi masses) has proved bogus (including PFC Lynch and that heroine BS).

All of a sudden, we decide that, hey...maybe three times the inspection force is a good idea! Interesting, when we first said that tripling the number would make no difference.

I support the troops, but this constant barrage of "we found WMD....ooopps, no it wasn't" is a direct contradiction to what we were absolutely sure of...that the WMDs were there! (And maybe you think our military and CIA intel are so bad they couldn't have located any caches long before this "war" started?)

[palmer]

The goal posts can be moved easily, but I am looking for the type of threat that Colin Powell described in his speech to the U.N. Any chem or bio weapon with a viable delivery mechanism would be a sufficient threat to attack. Large stockpiles would be threat. Evidence of support for Osama would be enough especially if it could be shown how this supported 9/11.

[cibco]

I find it interesting that only pundits and news people are raising the questions about the WMD's. The Dem Rep's and Senators aren't saying too much...

[joesbucks]

I can't answer for Palmer, but finding a mobile lab used later than 1991 isn't enough. We were specifically told it was an ACTIVE WMD program, not something a dozen years ago.

Will one dollar to Osama be enough? Well I wonder if we went through all our governmental spending if we couldn't find a dollar or two that went to loyalists of Osama. Probably find many instances where that has happened. Would that mean that we have a tie and we have to bomb ourselves into submission?

[joesbucks]

Sometimes you hold your ammo. For now, I believe most politicians will give Bush the benefit of the doubt until it can be used more strategically. I would if I was running against him. IF the economy doesn't improve, then Bush will weaken. If our nation building troops that are policing the world (sorry, had to say it) suddenly start having casualities on a daily or weekly basis, however small, then Bush will weaken. When he is weak is when the WMD lack of finding stick. For now, the population is euphoric with the war win. When that wears off or starts to wear thin, and then no WMD's......then watch for it

[omegatoo]

A 'viable delivery system' is already proven. A few ounces of anthrax, a small quantity of sarin, either of these could be easily delivered by a single suicidal terrorist to a public event. Either could kill a large number of people.

Also, missiles with (empty)chemical warheads have already been found.

So by this reasoning, all we need to find is enough anthrax to fill an envelope or enough chemical to fill one warhead?

O2

[Solson]

If they destroyed all the gallons of recorded, documented manufacturing of these agents, why didn't they just tell the UN and point them to the location of their destruction??

Really...before looking for the boogey-man under the bed, look at the monster standing two feet away staring at you.

[cibco]

Congress gets intelligence briefings. They are going ballistic about Bush taking a jet ride right now. Why the pass on WMD's?

Iraq had time to bury MIG's. It doesn't make sense. I think it is time to just wait and give our people some time to look and verify.

[omegatoo]

What if we find half a ton?

And yes, anyone who gave Osama bin Laden (or any other terrorist) ONE dollar, with the intention of helping him perform terrorist acts, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

O2

[joesbucks]

Wasn't it just a week or two ago there was documents found where Iraq had reached out to Osama?

The more I pondered that and since there seemed to be no followup, I somewhat believe that it may be that Iraq did in fact attempt to forge a relationship with Osama and his minions. Both saw the US as common enemies.

But I wonder if Iraq was rebuffed. Seems Osama wasn't keen on Iraq either. It's possible.

Attempts to make a relationship and that relationship having been actually been forged are two quite different things.

[palmer]

Sounds like a hypothesis, not proof. How is it delivered, is there evidence of WMD in Mexico or Canada? Something like that would be reason to attack. As for the missiles, I'm not sure whether those are new or old. Certainly Saddam had WMD, used them and had delivery mechanisms. He was barely a threat then (e.g. 80's) yet much less contained then he was in the 90's

[alnick]

Where's the thousands of gallons of stuff?

It's glaringly obvious where it is: Dumped, hidden, and/or relocated to another country.

[joesbucks]

Dumped, hidden, and/or relocated to another country.

In any case our satellites would have seen these facilites moving, being dismantled, material being burned or dumped or whatever.

If they can trail a person doing anything, then why not these items?

[wayoverontheright]

But he added: "They have not found another plausible use for it."

Oh, but the democrats will.

We could have some fun with this.

Daschle: "The truck served as a mobile breakfast delivery vehicle for elementary schools, the vat was used to make pancakes".

[alnick]

Can they do that in the dead of night? I don't know. I don't think that the exact extent of what we can and cannot do is known. But if you choose to blind yourself to the ample evidence, available before and after the war, of what Saddam was up to, that's your choice.

[realpatriot71]

I'm with you. The only reason I and many other Americans got behind this war was because we were going to give the administration the benefit of the doubt on WMD. If Saddam, who is (was) a bad guy who hated America, had WMD and an ongoing WMD program, he probably would have sold at least some of these to terrorists - at least, we were told he was going to give these weapons to terrorists for use against us. Fine. People can get behind a preemptive military action even for pragmatic reasons when the WMD card is laid on the table. However, the evidence so far for WMD is pretty damn lame. Does it take time to find hidden WMD, and should the administration be given a proper amount of time? Of course. Unfortunately for Bush, if WMD are not found, he's going to be in trouble. I'd also like to know, if WMD are not found, who's asses our intelligence community has had their heads up.

Sad thing is, even if WMD are not found the bushbots will spin this until the day they die.

[realpatriot71]

It's glaringly obvious where it is: Dumped, hidden, and/or relocated to another country.

LOL - really? There no evidence for anything you've said, and it's not "glaringly obvious". What is "glaringly obvious" is that no serious evidence for WMD has been shown to date.

[omegatoo]

Not hypothesis.

A teaspoon of anthrax in an envelope has already killed. Here, in America.

There is your viable delivery system.

The warheads were just found. They may have been old, but they were functional. Warheads just need to be placed on missiles. We also know there were missiles that went farther than allowed by the UN....conveniently far enough to reach other countries.

Again, a reliable delivery system. Granted, these missiles could not reach the US, but they could reach other countries nearby. Must the delivery system be to the US?

The first part of your premise is already proven. There are reliable delivery systems. Just because they haven't been successful so far doesn't mean they don't exist. Can we really monitor every cropdusting plane forever?

So all we need to do now is find enough anthrax or other agent to be delivered, right. How many people must be able to be killed for the amount to qualify?

O2

[numberonepal]

What I find most interesting here is that this mobile bio-lab was confiscated on April 19th at a border check point. Why are we just now hearing about it? IMHO, Bush is waiting, waiting for the left and the rest of the pinheads of the world to get louder and louder. At the right time - boom - smoking guns. Boom - France helped out a lot. Boom - Germany help out some, too. Boom - Russia made a phone call or something (we're being soft on the Ruskies for some frickin' reason).

We have never heard "officially" from the military brass that anything supposedly found so far was real. The Brass are supporting this one. Just wait, were all in for surprises we didn't expect. I wouldn't want to play poker with GW either.