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A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....05-08-03...."What's so incredulous about all this"
JohnHuang2 and Dutchess and Billie | JohnHuang2

Posted on 05/08/2003 2:47:55 AM PDT by dutchess




A Few of FR's Finest.....
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A Few of FR's Finest November 11, 2001

So many people have written me since my original Veteran's Day Tribute, asking how they, or a loved one, could be included in that tribute. Since I can no longer add the photos to the body of the thread, I've been including them in additional posts as I received enough to make another collage.

Still that doesn't seem to be enough. I think there's never been a better nor more appropriate time to keep the faces of our own Veterans and Active Military in front of FReepers--every day! That's why I wanted to do yet another Daily Thread .....ABOUT FReepers .....and FOR FReepers. But not only about our Military FReepers; for all FReepers! Wouldn't it be nice to get to know a few of the other FReepers as well? That's why, in addition to seeing FR's Finest Military Personnel every day, I thought it might be fun to feature a different FReeper (or FReepers) each day. If you would like to be pictured, or know someone who would, please FReepmail me and we'll turn the spotlight - on YOU - for the day!

And do let me know if you'd like your picture added to the groups of Veterans/Active Military below. I will keep this page updated, and continue to add them to the comment section of the original Veteran's Day thread as well.

TOP: Logos, SwedeGirl's hubby, Neil E Wright, FallGuy, 1John, Sneakypete
MIDDLE:  T'wit, COB1, LadyX, Dick Bachert, 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
BOTTOM:  YankeeinSC, Delta21, JoeSixPack1



TOP:  Bosniajmc, AFVetGal, Archy, A Navy Vet
MIDDLE:  4TheFlag, Aeronaut, 68Grunt, Xinga
BOTTOM:  Codger, AAABest, Clinton's A Liar, Duke809, dcwusmc



TOP:  mc5cents, Norb2569, LBGA's son, VanJenerette
MIDDLE:  Jim Robinson, KJenerette, davidosborne, KG9Kid
BOTTOM:  gwmoore, Equality7-2521, SAMWolf



TOP:  porgygirl, Phil V., MudPuppy, NorCoGOP
MIDDLE:  RaceBannon, OneidaM, rdb3, jwTexian
BOTTOM:  USMC Vet, TheMayor, Vineyard, rhododogma



We now have eleven groups of veterans/active military; we will post each group of three or four twice a week, with thumbnail/links of the remaining seven or eight groups on each thread. Click on any of the thumbnails below to see the group full-size.

         

GROUP 5A: TOP:  spectr17, RightOnline, SERE_Doc, Tet68. MIDDLE:  FutureSnakeEater, RightOnline's wife, CIApilot, Clamper1797. BOTTOM:  usmcobra, onedoug, DiverDave, Joe6-pack.
GROUP 6A: TOP:  g'nad, AgThorn's son Justin, SLB, AgThorn's son Brett. MIDDLE:  fish70, razorback-bert, CheneyChick, Leroy S Mort, Mark17. BOTTOM:  Terry's Take, Taxman, DinkyDau.
GROUP 7A: TOP:  ValerieUSA's son Grant, SK1Thurman, kd5cts, RangerVetNam, dansangel and .45man's son-in-law Tony.BOTTOM:  rangerX, Old China Hand, Trish, Howlin's dad, Mustang.
GROUP 8A: TOP: ohioWfan's son, MamaBear's father-in-law, MamaBear's dad, ladtx. MIDDLE:  The Mayor's niece, M.Kehoe, Beach_Babe's son-in-law. BOTTOM:  deadhead's dad, HiJinx, Severa's hubby, viligantcitizen's granddad.
      

GROUP 9A: TOP: Q6-God, Scan59, Mama Bear and JKPhoto's son, ofMagog. MIDDLE:  Big'ol_freeper, JustAmy's great uncle, Prodigal Son. BOTTOM:  JustAmy's husband, JustAmy's brother-in-law, JustAmy's brother.
GROUP 10A: TOP: dakine's wife, MeeknMing's dad, Auntbee's nephew, MilitiaMan7, AlasBabylon. BOTTOM:  Joe Brower, Temple Owl, Temple Owl's wife, dutchess' dad, Aomagrat.
GROUP 11A: TOP: ladtx #2 son; DiverDave's twin Don; petuniasevan and husband poorman; Mustard; ladtx #1 son. BOTTOM: AlamoGirl's brother Floyd; AG's dad; AG's brother Jim (inset); WVNan's husband; ladtx' Aunt Eva.




                     











"What's so incredulous about all this?"

by JohnHuang2


Can anybody tell me what the heck is going on in Iraq? Has the politics over there gone completely nuts, or what?


First of all, Monday the AP headlines an article with this: Garner: Group of 9 Will Likely Lead Iraq.
"A council of up to nine Iraqis will probably lead the country's still unformed interim government through the coming months," reads the lead-off paragraph, citing retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner, U.S. civil administrator for Iraq, as the source.
Unsure of the AP story, I check other sources, just in case.
I run into this from WMUR: "The American civil administrator in Iraq says a group of as many as nine Iraqis will probably lead the country's government in the coming months," the station reports, again citing Lt. Gen. Garner as source.
What's so incredulous about all this?
Well, try this AP bombshell on for size: "The nine Iraqi candidates vying to lead their country clashed over the U.S.-led war against Iraq, health insurance and [Saddam's system of hand cuts (hand-chopping)] in an early debate in which they hope to distinguish themselves from the pack," writes Nedra Pickler from Baghdad Saturday.
"The recent conflict -- and the divisions among the candidates over the war -- were evident Saturday in the [debate's] opening questions," she adds.

The 90-minute debate, moderated by controversial host Gahayr "George" Stepoonawala, former political strategist for Saddam and lightning rod for criticism, was sponsored by Al-Jazeera Broadcasting Company (ABC), also at the center of controversy. The station's notoriously low standards for journalism puts it almost on a par with the New York Times and has made it fodder for late-night comedians like Jama "Jay" Lalenotfi, from a rival network.
"Moderator Stepoonawala focused initially on Bush's decision to order U.S. forces to lead a coalition to disarm Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein," Pickler notes. "He highlighted former [province] governor" and Ba'ath hardliner Hoque "Howard" Dhan's "statement earlier in the day that Saddam really wasn't much of a threat to the country."

Jaouni "Joe" Labiberman, member of Saddam's ousted rubber-stamp Parliament, "took issue with [Gov. Dhan's] assessment [that Saddam was not a threat] to the United States and, most particularly, to his neighbors."
Throughout the debate, the candidates' first face-to-face encounter, Labiberman -- Ba'ath Party loyalist on most issues -- took the U.S. side regarding the war. The doonybrook, at times intensely personal, signaled growing fissures among Iraqis post-Saddam and cheered leading proponents of Quagmirist theory.
"America did the right thing in fighting this fight, and the [Iraqi] people will be safer as a result of it," Labiberman declared.

"We could have disarmed Hussein by working with the United Nations," Allouh al-Sharpton shot back. Al-Sharpton, a flamboyant, bombastic, colorful, chichi scandal machine, worked in Saddam's Revolutionary Command Council, impersonating an Islamic Mullah. The RCC's close ties with al-Qaeda, revealed in captured documents found recently among the rubble at Iraq's spy headquarters, remains hotly denied by most Ba'ath Party loyalists -- Dahleh "Dan" Rawdah prominent among them.
The New York Times reports that al-Sharpton "urged an end to disputes that could hurt the [Ba'athists] in their attempt to win [back the palaces]."
"Republicans are watching," writes Adam Nagourney, quoting al-Sharpton, who added that "We should not have the bottom line tonight be that George Bush won because we were taking cheap shots at one another."
Boulos "Bob" Gharam, another ex-member of Parliament, sized up the debate, held on the campus of the world acclaimed Institute For The Production And Concealment Of WMD, somewhat differently. "We're not fighting each other. We're trying to select one of us to be the opponent of George Bush," he said.
Great. So we liberated Iraqis only so they could pick leaders vowing to oppose U.S. policy, right? Or am I missing something?

Al-Sharpton and Cala "Carol" Musa-Buwayh, yet another former Parliament Ba'athist and the only female hopeful, "focused on the expense of keeping U.S. forces in Iraq and the reconstruction of the war-torn nation," the AP reported.
Juwan Farouk Kerim "JFK", still another Ba'athist from Parliament, attacked Gov. Hoque "Howard" Dhan who attacked both Juwan Farouk Kerim and Jaouni "Joe" Labiberman, who attacked Juwan Farouk Kerim who attacked Dekel "Dick" Geber; al-Sharpton attacked Kerim and Geber and Labiberman, who also drew fire from Dinar "Dennis" Khehkashan who attacked Jaun "Ed" Waddah, still another ex-lawmaker, who attacked Kerim.
Hands-down, the heaviest exchange of the evening went to Kerim and Gov. Dhan, specifically on the question of fitness for high office. Gov. Dhan attacked Kerim for questioning his qualifications, while Kerim attacked Gov. Dhan as categorically unsuited for the job, noting Gov. Dhan had never served in the Republican Guard, as he -- Juwan Kerim -- had.

"Everyone respects [Juwan Kerim's] extraordinary, heroic service record, and I do as well," Gov. Dhan grudgingly acknowledged. Miffed, he added, however, that he'd "have preferred -- this is 30 years later -- I would have preferred, if [Kerim] had some concerns about my fitness to serve, that he speak to me directly about that rather than through his spokesman."
Kerim was having none of it: "I really think that anybody who has measured the tests that I think I have performed over the last years on any number of fights in [Saddam's Parliament], as well as my service in [Kuwait and Iran], that I don't need any lectures in courage from [Gov. Hoque Dhan]."
Kerim, with polls showing him the frontrunner in Baghdad, also drew fire from Labiberman, who accused Kerim of trying to have it both ways on the war.
"No [Ba'athist] will be elected...who is not strong on" freedom and national security, "and this war was a test of that." Failing that test, Labiberman added, "will not give the people confidence about our [Ba'ath] Party's willingness to make tough decisions to protect their [freedom] and security."
Host Gahayr "George" Stepoonwala then turned the discussion to healthcare, an issue the Geber campaign has seized recently with a proposal for universal coverage. The Geber plan forces all employers to insure their workers and pays for it by repealing Saddam's 'hand-cuts' -- notorious Iraqi torture methods used by the ousted regime against opponents. The heinous practice involved the chopping of hands ('hand-cuts'), pulling of tongues and electric shock treatment.
Jaun "Ed" Waddah attacked the plan as a sop to U.S. corporations, one which "takes hands directly out of the pockets of working people, and I know it gives it to corporations." Labiberman blasted the proposal as too expensive, another "big-spending [Ba'athist] idea of the past."
In defense, Geber said "If we're going to win this election, we cannot be [Saddam-lite]. We can't come along and say, 'Well, I'll keep half of [Saddam's program of hand-cuts]', or 'I'll keep three quarters of the [Saddam hand-cuts].' The [Saddam system of hand-cuts] have failed. They are not making the economy better, they are not helping people get jobs..."
Uh-oh...
I did it again, didn't I?
Don't tell me...please don't tell me...I screwed-up again.
Oh, no -- I did!
OMG.
This was the Democrat "debate" in South Carolina last Saturday...had nothing to do with a future government in Iraq -- thank Goodness!



"Questioning the motives of a 'desk-bound president who assumes the garb of a warrior,' Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd on Tuesday reproached President Bush for flying onto an aircraft carrier last week to declare an end of major fighting in Iraq," reports the AP.


Bush, in other words, should not have flown onto an aircraft carrier last week to declare an end to major fighting in Iraq. Byrd, who opposed the war, now supports the war, and doesn't want "an end of major fighting in Iraq" declared yet -- not so soon, right? Er, not quite.
"I am loath to think of an aircraft carrier being used as an advertising backdrop for a presidential political slogan, and yet that is what I saw," Byrd is quoted as saying.
Ah, so the problem was venue.
Look, I'm willing to cut old sheets some slack here.
Actually, I was kinda wondering what had happened to Byrd -- he seemed mighty quiet lately. Before the war, hardly a day would pass without the scintillating clod from West Virginia, who says he doesn't hate anybody unless *anybody* is black, Hispanic, Asian or Indian, babbling brilliance by the toilet bowl full on the Senate floor, 'weeping' sanctimoniously for his country -- Iraq.
But put yourself in his shoes for a moment. You think you're a *man of letters,* but the only letters people associate you with are KKK. Everything about this war has exposed you as a blithering idiot. You have a gift for getting things wrong. Your titillating Quagmire scenarios have come a cropper.
But, worst of all, you don't know if Saddam is dead or alive. You're worried. The betting is he's pushing up daises. Understandably, Byrd is hurt, angry, grief-stricken. Losing a loved one is never easy. There's a healing process and mustering the strength and courage to go on -- well, easier said than done. How about forming a grief support group, O Libs? Oops, they already have one. It's called the Democrat Party.
"Byrd contrasted [Bush's] speech with the 'simple dignity' of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address during Civil War," says the AP.


The Grand Kleagle praising Lincoln's Gettysburg Address?
How so much amnesia could fit into such tiny brains, I'll never know.

"Al-Qaeda may be rebuilding," screamed the Christian Science Monitor Monday. "Some intelligence sources and experts outside government believe that Al Qaeda has been quiet by choice, not because its plans have been disrupted," the paper boldly declares.
"There is also evidence," we're told, "that Al Qaeda's remaining leadership believes the war in Iraq will produce a new stream of recruits disenchanted with American actions, perhaps allowing Al Qaeda to create a new front of international jihad."
The terrorist are getting really, really, really mad at us, eh? Imagine that? And for what? Toppling Saddam? I thought there were no ties between Saddam and al-Qaeda? Go figure.
Bush is losing the War on Terror! A world without Saddam is more dangerous. A world with fewer governments willing to harbor terrorists lowers our security, you see.
Darn, Bush shoulda left Saddam alone, or lost the war. Then al-Qaeda would disappear, or wouldn't be mad at us, and we'd all live happily holding hands ever after.
Meanwhile....
"Spy Agencies' Optimism on Al Qaeda Is Growing: Lack of Attacks Thought to Show Group Is Nearly Crippled," says Tuesday's Washington Post.
"The failure of al-Qaeda to launch terrorist attacks against the United States or its allies during the war in Iraq has bolstered a growing belief among U.S. intelligence agencies that 19 months of worldwide counterterrorism operations and arrests have nearly crippled the organizations," writes Walter Pincus and Dana Priest.
"Intelligence officials" they add, "said the killings or capture of senior al Qaeda members, the interrogation of imprisoned figures, the elimination of Afghanistan as a base of operations, and the ongoing hunt for other al Qaeda adherents has disrupted the network's ability to communicate and made it much more difficult for it to plan large-scale attacks."


So much for the gloom and doom.
Anyway, that's...
My two cents






THIS WEEK'S THREADS

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1 posted on 05/08/2003 2:47:55 AM PDT by dutchess
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To: ST.LOUIE1; Billie; daisyscarlett; dansangel; dutchess; Mama_Bear; FreeTheHostages; .45MAN; ...
Welcome finest friends...it's Thursday and time for another view of current events through the eyes of our FINEST resident author, JohnHuang2!

2 posted on 05/08/2003 2:54:41 AM PDT by dutchess (One more day til TGIF!)
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3 posted on 05/08/2003 2:57:38 AM PDT by dutchess (One more day til TGIF!)
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Good Morning, (((Dutchess)))!

I'm present and accounted for! :O)

4 posted on 05/08/2003 3:13:27 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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Good Morning, (((JOHN)))!
5 posted on 05/08/2003 3:14:28 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: dutchess
Welcome finest friends...it's Thursday and time for another view of current events through the eyes of our FINEST resident author, JohnHuang2!

John is, too.

Although I appreciate that he has been publishing his works for free in our local venue, I think John deserves a promotion. He should be getting paid for what he writes, and his writings should be getting published someplace besides a "right-wing" public internet forum.

We should be quoting his articles here from out of a professional journal. Or something like that.

6 posted on 05/08/2003 3:28:37 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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Mornin', everybody ! Happy Thursday !

79 degrees as I post this, headin' for around 91 today . . .


Have a cup while you FReep !






For those who prefer hot chocolate.....






7 posted on 05/08/2003 3:46:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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Huh? I heard it looked more like this, John! . . .



8 posted on 05/08/2003 3:51:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: dutchess; JohnHuang2; Billie; daisyscarlett; Mama_Bear; ST.LOUIE1
I'm still chuckling! I never know what it's going to be about, but I know it's gonna be a "barn-burner" when I read it on Thursdays! Great satire (((((((((JH2))))))))))! You calls 'em as you sees 'em!

{{{{{{{{{dutchess}}}}}}}} - hope you have a great Thursday! We've had a couple of very bad days here in metro-Atlanta weather-wise. Just have to wait and see what comes up for today. Wasn't able to get on at all last evening (again!) because of all of the lightning.

{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}} to all of the sistahs and
[[[[[{{{{{(((((Louie_Wolfie_Man)))))}}}}}]]]]] to my fuzzy brothah!
9 posted on 05/08/2003 4:57:47 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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LOL and a *great* morning to you (((((Meekie)))))))
10 posted on 05/08/2003 4:59:48 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: Pippin
Good Morning (((((Pippin)))))))

Hope you have a great day!
11 posted on 05/08/2003 5:00:20 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: dutchess
Good morning Dutchess.


12 posted on 05/08/2003 5:08:14 AM PDT by Aeronaut (This space intentionally left blank.)
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To: MeeknMing
Morning ALL...another to the point article John. Meekie that 'wheel' is just so funny.


13 posted on 05/08/2003 5:15:03 AM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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Good morning ladies and John.
Tell me John, do you think Sheets would have been happier if it were President William Jefferson Clinton, clad in a white robe and hood landing on the Confederate Aircraft Carrier Bull Connor? He could have burned a cross.
14 posted on 05/08/2003 5:56:19 AM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: ST.LOUIE1; dansangel; dutchess; Pippin
According to the theory underlying today's calendar page, Wolfie is very rich.

15 posted on 05/08/2003 6:33:53 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: JohnHuang2
LOL, well done, King of Ping! Very enjoyable. Although you didn't trick me this time -- I was waiting for you.

"Tiny brains" indeed.
16 posted on 05/08/2003 6:37:07 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages
Howdy ((FREE)))!
17 posted on 05/08/2003 6:59:15 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: dansangel
Howdy, (((DANSY))))!
18 posted on 05/08/2003 6:59:57 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: The Other Harry; JohnHuang2
I agree!

I think John should have his writings published.

19 posted on 05/08/2003 7:01:27 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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To: MeeknMing
Howdy, (((MEEKIE)))!
20 posted on 05/08/2003 7:02:04 AM PDT by Pippin ( God bless President Bush)
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