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House approves wait for abortions (Texas - 24 hours and shown picture of the fetus)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | 4/30/03 | Karen Brooks

Posted on 04/30/2003 2:29:59 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

A bill that would require women seeking an abortion to wait 24 hours and be given pictures of fetuses before getting the procedure won strong preliminary approval Tuesday in the Texas House.

House Bill 15, by state Rep. Frank Corte, R-San Antonio, passed 96-41 after two days of sometimes testy and emotional debate between Republican supporters and Democratic opponents.

Passage of the bill, which is expected to get final approval today and move on to the Senate, was a coup for abortion opponents who have been trying to get a so-called informed consent law passed for several legislative sessions. Capitol insiders said they believe that the bill has a good chance of winning Senate approval.

Corte's bill never made it past a House committee in previous Democratic-controlled Legislatures.

"It's a victory for Texas women. They will further be empowered to make informed decisions about their life-changing surgery," said Elizabeth Graham, a spokeswoman for Texas Right to Life.

The measure is one of several that groups like Graham's hope to push through this session. Among them is a bill by state Rep. Phil King, R-Weatherford, requiring physicians to obtain a parent's consent before performing an abortion on a minor. State law now only requires parental notification. That bill was approved by the House State Affairs Committee last week.

Others include a bill defining a child from the moment of fertilization, outlawing morning-after contraceptive medications, and requiring physicians to ask a woman who is at least 20-weeks pregnant whether she wants to lessen the amount of pain the fetus might feel during an abortion.

A leading abortion-rights advocate says the sound rejection of nearly 20 amendments proposed by Democrats -- such as changing the words "unborn child" to "fetus" and allowing an exception for rape and incest victims -- proves "just how anti-choice this Legislature is."

"These bills do nothing for a woman's health, they do nothing to decrease unwanted pregnancies -- which is the only cause of abortion -- and they put obstacles in the paths of women who choose abortion," said Kae McLaughlin, executive director of the Texas Abortion Rights Action League.

Corte's bill also requires women who seek an abortion after 16 weeks to have it performed at an ambulatory surgical center, not an abortion clinic or doctor's office. The bill expands the number of providers in Texas who will have to register as abortion providers.

Supporters of Corte's bill handily knocked down nearly 20 attempts by opponents to weaken or stop the bill, with Republicans often voting in lockstep with Corte to defeat several amendments.

But their resolve crumbled when state Rep. Senfronia Thompson, a Houston Democrat, managed to rally their support in requiring that information provided by the state in doctor's offices include emergency contraceptives.

The measure initially lost on a vote of 68-67, but after Thompson demanded a recount, Corte agreed to let the amendment be included in the bill.

Under the legislation, a woman must have information distributed by the Texas Department of Health for 24 hours before she can get an abortion. She can get the information over the telephone, in person or via the Internet.

She may also decline to view the materials, and the physician may choose to comment -- in agreement or disagreement -- on the information.

The information, part of which would come from the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, includes the risks associated with abortion and carrying the pregnancy to term and the woman's right to collect child support from the baby's father.

"If women are going to get this procedure, we need them to get information," Corte said. "We need to empower women and let women make decisions on their own."

Corte calls the bill the Women's Right to Know Act. Opponents of the measure call it the Women's Misinformation Act.

Opponents say the bill cuts off access to abortion for many women, particularly those in rural areas, and seeks to intimidate others into changing their minds.

The bill requires that women be told about reports of a connection between breast cancer and abortion, despite a recent study by the National Cancer Institute -- an affiliate of the federal National Institutes of Health -- debunking that connection.

It also prohibits the state from divulging information about abortion providers and affiliates, which opponents say will leave women with misleading information.

"This bill is an insult to women and doctors," said state Rep. Jessica Farrar, D-Houston. "When a woman makes up her mind, we should respect her decision and not force her to look at pictures and false information, as this patronizing bill demands."

Democrats failed repeatedly in attempts to weaken the bill. Farrar was unsuccessful in an effort to exclude rape and incest victims but won inclusion of statistics on child-support collection to balance out information on the rights of the mother to collect support from the baby's father.

State Rep. Dawnna Dukes, D-Austin, tried unsuccessfully to remove the 24-hour waiting period. She also criticized "crisis pregnancy centers" for holding themselves out as information centers but not dispensing information about abortion. Dukes failed to compel the centers to provide information on all options available to pregnant women.

Other Democrats tried to change "medical termination of pregnancy" to "abortion," raise the 16-week threshold to 23 weeks, and offer alternatives to women in their second and third trimesters who do not have access to ambulatory surgical centers.

Details of the bill

Under House Bill 15, which received preliminary approval Tuesday, the information that would be given to a pregnant woman seeking abortion includes:

• The risks associated with abortion, including reports of a connection to breast cancer and "the natural protective effect of a completed pregnancy in avoiding breast cancer." A recent national study suggests no link between abortion and increased risk of breast cancer.

• The probable gestational age of the fetus and illustrations of a fetus of the same age.

• The medical risks associated with carrying the child to term.

• Medical-assistance benefits that may be available for prenatal or neonatal care.

• The liability of the father for child support and the frequency with which child support is collected.

• Descriptions of crisis pregnancy centers that counsel alternatives to abortion.

The legislation prohibits dispensing information about abortion clinics and their affiliates.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; informedconsent; prolife; waitingperiod
This is only getting a vote because the TX legislature has shifted from Democrat to GOP control. There is still not a solid conservative majority in either chamber, anything passed still must get the support of those some would label as 'RINO's'.

So for all you perpetual doomsday, threaten to sit at home, "I'll never vote for anyone who doesn't vote X on my pet issue" types, please note. It is still not a 'purist' legislature, but real change is being implemented NOW.

1 posted on 04/30/2003 2:29:59 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: pro-life
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2 posted on 04/30/2003 2:30:22 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Thank you for posting this. There are so many women who never recover from the trauma of abortion, mentally, emotionally or physically. How horrible is it to kill your own child? How horrible to make that choice? Prayers to all, the would be mothers and their murdered children.
3 posted on 04/30/2003 2:35:50 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Pro abortion types protest as obscene the showing of "Silent Scream."

This movie should be required by anyone considering abortion.

There are still people who will insist on having one because their hearts are so hard but we would save many innocent lives if young women saw this movie.

4 posted on 04/30/2003 2:46:18 PM PDT by zerosix
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I respectfully disagree. Many young women make the choice to abort their children because they haven't the knowledge that the child is a sensient being. They think it is a blob of tissue, as NOW loves to proclaim.

Silent Scream is excellent viewing for these infortunate girls.
5 posted on 04/30/2003 2:49:06 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Pro-life bump - read later
6 posted on 04/30/2003 3:56:02 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: annyokie
I agree with you that the pro-abortion crowd has kept women and girls uninformed about the real nature of child development.

Many of these women and girls only learn the truth after they've had abortions and it multiplies their anguish. Others would change their minds if they knew help was available to them in what they perceive is an impossible situation.

If sex education is forced on our kids in our schools, I think an explicit course on fetal development should also be mandatory. If more boys and girls knew from early on exactly how human a fetus is, they might (I say MIGHT) reconsider the risks of getting pregnant in the first place.

The only pictures I ever saw of an unborn baby while in high school was a chart depicting the similarities between a human embryo and other embryos, such as pigs, dogs and chickens. This portrayal reduced the human embryo to "nothing of importance"...carefully omitting the major differences between them, that the human embryo becomes a human baby. With humanistic textbooks like this is it any wonder people regard this life as a "blob"?

7 posted on 04/30/2003 3:56:08 PM PDT by lsee
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I agree. The Democrat quoted in this argument whines that this bill does nothing to address preventing unwanted pregnancies, but--if we gave girls AND boys proper education in fetal development in early adolescence, and got graphic enough to make it REAL to them, that would do a lot right there.
8 posted on 04/30/2003 4:21:44 PM PDT by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I think the picture and the waiting time would be reasonable.
And if the woman decides to go ahead after that, the anti-choicers will leave her alone and shut the hell up. Unfortunately, these folks won't be satisfied until abortion is back where it belongs, in back alleys. This is just giving them another foothold.
9 posted on 04/30/2003 5:04:45 PM PDT by gcruse
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Imagine that. Giving a woman medical facts. How horrible of those mean Republicans.
10 posted on 04/30/2003 5:09:36 PM PDT by friendly
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Dear President Bush,
With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)

I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well

I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.

But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.

I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.

Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.

Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.
11 posted on 05/29/2003 8:21:24 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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