He's Out With the In Crowd (Dowd alert)

The New York Times ^ | 04/27/03 | Maureen Dowd

[jackbill]

You're an old geezer?

Come on, you can handle it!

I'll give it a shot, After all, what a way to go.

[Rummyfan]

Well, that explains a lot. Circulation will have to fall a lot more before Raines and Dowd are shown the door.

[ontos-on]

Dowd's most favorite analysis is that it [whatever] is really just a bunch of boys acting as boys. Her blind feminist triumphalism is the main actuator of her mind. ust boys is her favorite refrain. After that, analysis stops and sh ejust repeats the best of her gang of fem friends and what they have to say.

[Howlin]

You have to look so you can understand "where Maureen is coming from!"

[Calvin Locke]

Presumbably the Sulzbergers approve of all this swinish behavior.

I do not travel in journalistic circles. However, I cannot for the life of me, understand why Howell Raines still has his job.

I heard that the NYT's local daily circulation was down 50K by early April, and directly attributed to the inaccurate
and biased reporting on the war.

Magically, after the numbers started to come in, they made a decided and noticible switch in editorial policy.

Michael Savage used to savage the now reigning Sulzberger as completely inept. To keep Raines on must mean they are
hunkering down (a la CBS, CNN, etc.) to appeal to the "in" crowd of Dims, both dead and dying, and watering, nay,
washing away their reputation as "the paper of record".

[try phecta tom]

very good

[Carolinamom]

Nerviness, absolutism and smiling enemies are seductive.

Maureen, you oughta know....you've been seduced!

[Dog Gone]

And there are Powell people: Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, Bush 41, Ken Duberstein, Richard Armitage, Richard Haass, the Foreign Service, Joe Biden, Bob Woodward, the wet media elite, the planet.

She really does think that everyone agrees with her.

[SupplySider]

Oh, if only James Baker and Joe Biden were in charge lol.

[Calvin Locke]

....you've been seduced!

You know, there are a couple of ways that Mo could take that.

Probably more than I want to know, too.

[aculeus]

Maybe the problem isn't just Raines:

Quote:
the Times's new publisher, Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr ... was a sixties anti-war activist who famously declared that in a confrontation between an American and a North Vietnamese soldier he'd want to see the American get shot."
Unquote.
Stanley Kurtz (NRO on line, June 5, 2001)

[Calvin Locke]

Couldn't remember if it was "Pinch" or "Punch", and I wanted to be correct.

NPR should start to do biographies of publishers in non-Western style governments. That would get Pinch's attenion.

[aculeus]

Pinch is the son of Punch the former publisher. Punch is a Marine Corps (officer) veteran and the remark was made by son to father during the Vietnam War.

[martin_fierro]

Someone should tell MoDo the Dodo she should...

...get more.

[Southack]

"Dowd is a snotty b*tch who writes like and for the same people she shares penthouse cocktail parties with. In short, she's irrelevant, only she doesn't know it, yet."

To take your comment just a little bit further, Dowd seems to write as though she is mimicking the precise conversations that she hears while making the rounds of the Manhattan "coffee and tea" party circuit.

As in, what Dowd writes is probably a reasonable facsimile of the precise memes discussed (and rabidly agreed upon, as there is no disention in the coffee and tea circuit) by the "popular people" at these near-daily soirees.

Today's theme/meme would thus be the rehashed old piece of propaganda known as "the Administration is divided" routine, in which the Bush Administration is portrayed as being at war with itself (typically via Powell on one side and Rumsfield on the other).

Naturally, these themes/memes are tossed aside like a bad wine whenever they prove to be "inconvenient" (again, refer back to the fact that there can be no dissention at coffee and tea parties, so no one will ever say that so and so was wrong...rather, the old words are simply forgotten, 1984-style).

So, if you are interested in what the coffee and tea circuit is saying, simply read Dowd's column.

So there, at least I came up with a positive use for her spiel besides wiping my dog's muddy paws with her pages.

[Jorge]

Today's theme/meme would thus be the rehashed old piece of propaganda known as "the Administration is divided" routine, in which the Bush Administration is portrayed as being at war with itself (typically via Powell on one side and Rumsfield on the other).

I don't which is worse...Dowd's nauseating smug tone....or how predictable she's become.

[PJ-Comix]

Have you ever heard this bitch speak? Her voice is worse than fingernails on a blackboard. Several years ago she was the emcee for some sort of award ceremony, the only public appearance that I'm aware of her making. It was pathetic.

Does she have a thick NY accent?

[ladyinred]

This clash is epochal because it's beyond ego. It's about whether America will lead by fear, aggression and force of arms or by diplomacy, moderation and example.

I vote for the former over the latter thank you very much!

LOL, great idea putting Jones picture on the thread! Love it!

[Cicero]

Sigh. I hadn't heard about that particular angle, but I was vaguely aware that the Sulzberger family seems to go steadily from bad to worse. It's pretty obvious what Howell Raines is doing, and if the Sulzberger's didn't approve of it they would presumably have stepped in by now.

I attended a dinner with a bunch of Sulzbergers five or six years ago in connection with an academic fundraiser, but I didn't venture to talk to them (having nothing useful to say) and I'm not sure which one was which.

[jackbill]

Does she have a thick NY accent?

No. She was born and raised in Washington, DC and graduated from Catholic Univ. there and worked for the Washington Star until it went belly-up. I suspect that she might still live there.