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Lawyers ponder US, UK 'war crimes'
Agence France-Presse via The News - Australia ^ | 4-15-03 | From correspondents at the United Nations

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:25:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

LAWYERS from British and US organisations are looking at the possibility of an international inquiry into war crimes that their governments might have committed in Iraq.

"We want to establish regular and impartial procedures to establish whether war crimes have been committed," said Phil Shiner, of the British group Public Interest Lawyers.

Shiner spoke at a news conference where Michael Ratner, president of the US Centre for Constitutional Rights, warned that the principle of "victor's justice" was legally unacceptable.

"It is not only Saddam's crimes that have to be examined," he said today.

The regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein collapsed under a fierce military onslaught led by the United States and Britain.

"We do not know if war crimes have been committed," Ratner said. But he added: "We should examine why so many people could have been killed on one side."

Shiner said the use of cluster bombs and ammunition containing depleted uranium in densely populated areas might breach the Geneva Convention and the UN Charter.

They and other instruments of international humanitarian law insisted on discrimination between military targets and civilians, he said.

Roger Normand, executive director of the Committee on Economic and Social Rights in New York, noted that under international law it was also "very clear that the United States has no legal basis to exploit Iraq's oil".

He recalled that the United States itself had reaffirmed that position when it did not allow Israel to extract oil from Sinai in eastern Egypt when it seized the peninsula.

Agence France-Presse


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ccr; irrelevant; lawyers; legal; michaelratner; un; warcrimes
Vermin.
1 posted on 04/14/2003 2:25:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ellen Ratner's little brother....surfaces.
2 posted on 04/14/2003 2:29:35 PM PDT by Dog
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3 posted on 04/14/2003 2:29:47 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I don't know about Britain, but here in America, these will be dismissed before ever seeing trial.

I'm fine with all of these seditious organizations wasting their money on a fruitless cause.

4 posted on 04/14/2003 2:30:06 PM PDT by Retrofire (Let's roll!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Michael Ratner = brother of the Botox babe herself, Ellen Ratner.
5 posted on 04/14/2003 2:31:15 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I wish we could gather all the lawyers in one place and bomb them.
6 posted on 04/14/2003 2:39:24 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
BAWWW WHAWWWW ! It's not fair !

Bush won, he must have cheated !

We are going to throw a tantrum and manufacture something for the pinko commies to gripe about because, right now, they aint got NUTHING !
7 posted on 04/14/2003 2:39:55 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Kill the lawyers. Problem solved.
8 posted on 04/14/2003 2:41:51 PM PDT by m18436572
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But he added: "We should examine why so many people could have been killed on one side."

I can answer this one for Rat Boy: SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!
9 posted on 04/14/2003 2:42:08 PM PDT by LeftiesBinWhinin
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To: Retrofire
It sure would be nice to box up these lawyers and accidently drop their butts from high altitude over Iraq or Syria about now.

Do you know what a Lawyer should do, a Goose can do and a duck won't do? Stick their bill up their butt!
10 posted on 04/14/2003 2:42:37 PM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"under international law it was also "very clear that the United States has no legal basis to exploit Iraq's oil". "

An "international law expert" who never heard of the Hague Conventions- why am I not surprised?

" Art. 49.
If, in addition to the taxes mentioned in the above article, the occupant levies other money contributions in the occupied territory, this shall only be for the needs of the army or of the administration of the territory in question.
...Art. 52.
Requisitions in kind and services shall not be demanded from municipalities or inhabitants except for the needs of the army of occupation. They shall be in proportion to the resources of the country, and of such a nature as not to involve the inhabitants in the obligation of taking part in military operations against their own country. Such requisitions and services shall only be demanded on the authority of the commander in the locality occupied. Contributions in kind shall as far as possible be paid for in cash; if not, a receipt shall be given and the payment of the amount due shall be made as soon as possible. "

The Hague Conventions protect the Iraqis from the humanity-hating nonsense of these fools.

11 posted on 04/14/2003 2:44:18 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"It is not only Saddam's crimes that have to be examined," he said today.

What this scum sucking POS dirt bag means, is that Saddam's crimes will not be investigated, or at least not by them. Maybe these POS SOBs are on his side.

12 posted on 04/14/2003 3:07:00 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Hey boys and ambulance just went by hurry hurry hurry.
13 posted on 04/14/2003 3:07:47 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Saddam's Hiding In Tikrit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But we were told that the ICC will never be politicized! /sarcasm
14 posted on 04/14/2003 3:13:00 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Dog
By the way, does anybody know what happened to Ellen Ratner?I remember reading something about her being there sent by Fox and she made some comments in favor of Sadam.
15 posted on 04/14/2003 3:15:37 PM PDT by SoAmerRepublican
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
US Centre for Constitutional Rights

Interesting they dont have a website as far as I can tell...

Not surprising that when you google a closed quote search on this you get a handful of socialist America hating crap....Including Indy Media

I wish these people would take their money and start adopting school rooms and medical clinics in some of the impoverished villages of Iraq...

Too bad they would rather clog the courts then get their hands dirty actually helping Iraqis.
16 posted on 04/14/2003 3:26:19 PM PDT by antaresequity (...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That law sheepskin better be about 14" thick.

For warmth, of course, against the coming cold winters.
17 posted on 04/14/2003 3:31:54 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Communists & Socialists: They only survive through lies.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I would love 5 minutes alone with these turds. Make that 10 minutes.
18 posted on 04/14/2003 3:51:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They can start with Saddam Hussein, and they can end with Saddam Hussein.
19 posted on 04/14/2003 4:04:38 PM PDT by chainsaw
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