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Avoid caveman politics, Solana urges US
EUObserver ^ | 4-8-03

Posted on 04/08/2003 2:48:46 PM PDT by mikenola

Avoid caveman politics, Solana urges US

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - A landmark speech by the EU's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, at Harvard University on Monday is set to spark off the debate on future relations between the US and the EU after the huge damage created by the American-led preventative war against Iraq.

Mr Solana picked up on many points laid out an article published last year that got policy tongues wagging on both sides of the Atlantic, Robert Kagan's 'Power and Weakness' in which he depicts Europeans as being from Venus and Americans from Mars.

"I am from Venus, which according to its detractors, is faint-hearted, soft-headed and militarily and politically weak. You are from Mars, which I am told is powerful, virile, dynamic: a land of moral clarity and resolute action," said Mr Solana before using the rest of the speech to stress how American and EU good relations are essential for the well-being of the whole world.

A new world order? Speaking of the Iraq war which, for many Europeans was the final straw after a series of American unilateral steps such as not signing up to the International Criminal Court or the Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change, the foreign policy chief said "it may be the first war of a new era."

This was a "dramatic display of American dominance" he said adding the current divisions have never before been so "sharp" and raise questions "about the new world order."

"Treat your friends like allies and they will behave like allies" Mr Solana suggested that both sides should commit themselves to four principles to "re-establish [a] sense of common purpose.

First, that the two sides are "allies and partners." "Treat your friends like allies and they will behave like allies," suggests Mr Solana

The second is that both sides should "make fair contributions." "Contribute like an ally and you will be treated like an ally." He acknowledged the American criticism of Europe for not doing much in defence, but said "real progress is being made."

But he defended Europe's peacekeeping approach. "How much additional security does an aircraft carrier bring? Is it more or less than spending the equivalent amount of money on peacekeeping or reconstruction of failed states?"

A world based on rules The third principle is that both sides must address the symptoms of problems too. "While not ignoring the capabilities of our enemies, we must also address the motivations that drive them to acquire those capabilities.

As his fourth principle, Mr Solana makes a plea for abiding by international law, which the Americans violated by taking preventive action against Iraq and by by-passing the United Nations.

Both sides should act together to "sustain and strengthen a world based on rules." He refuted the idea that there is some inherent opposition between power (the US method) and law (the EU method) and instead said "law and power are two sides of the same coin."

Politics of the caveman He urged the US away from a position of isolation which would be "a disaster" and said that American dominance through force would be a "return to the politics of the cave man."

Finally, he urged the US to treat the European Union as a whole. It would be a mistake for the US to "cherry-pick" from among its European allies. The EU has capacities that it individual members lack.

"It would be your loss and ours if we were to start quarrelling again," concluded the EU's High Representative for Common Foreign and Security policy.


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1 posted on 04/08/2003 2:48:46 PM PDT by mikenola
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To: mikenola
I am from Venus

I'm from Jupiter. I'm stupider.

2 posted on 04/08/2003 2:51:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts)
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To: mikenola
This was a "dramatic display of American dominance" he said adding the current divisions have never before been so "sharp" and raise questions "about the new world order."

GOOD, Punky. It's very good that you see the truth on this point - act in accordance with this reality, or pay a price for your dreams of avarice.
3 posted on 04/08/2003 2:52:51 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (Time is the fire in which we burn...)
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To: mikenola
I am from Venus, which according to its detractors, is faint-hearted, soft-headed and militarily and politically weak.

You are from someplace closer to Uranus.

4 posted on 04/08/2003 2:54:04 PM PDT by TheBigB (Is Hans Blix related to Helen Keller?)
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To: mikenola
Sounds like a lot of tired old worn-out blood trying to muster a up a heartbeat of an appeal to someone who has better things to do with their time.
5 posted on 04/08/2003 2:54:44 PM PDT by kimoajax
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6 posted on 04/08/2003 2:54:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: mikenola
Solana has one of the top Eurinal jobs. What do you figure, he makes about a million US$ a year in bribes, payoffs, and kickbacks?
7 posted on 04/08/2003 2:56:32 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: mikenola
I started to attack each of this little twerp's four points, but I can't because I want to choke the little fairy right on out of this world. My bp is way up right now.

But I will say that I would vote to make the EU the focus of our next preemptive military action.

8 posted on 04/08/2003 2:56:55 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: mikenola
This was a "dramatic display of American dominance" he said adding the current divisions have never before been so "sharp" and raise questions "about the new world order."

At least he got part of the lesson right. The other is leave us alone and don't threaten us or our true friends and we'll not blow your f&*^ing head off.

9 posted on 04/08/2003 2:57:51 PM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: mikenola
Tell Solana that we'll listen to him when he shows more concern that CAVEMEN like Hussein are persecuting people...
10 posted on 04/08/2003 2:58:57 PM PDT by IFly4Him
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To: mikenola
Finally, he urged the US to treat the European Union as a whole.

OK. Inasmuch as a majority of the governments in the European Union are supporting the U.S. military activities in Iraq, does that mean that France and Germany will go along with them?

Sure got quiet all of a sudden...

11 posted on 04/08/2003 2:59:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: mikenola
Treat EU as a whole? OK. How 'bout one representative to the UN, one vote? One vote on the Security Council.
12 posted on 04/08/2003 3:00:11 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: mikenola
We first told Europe to kiss our collective asses in 1776.

How many more hundreds of years is it going to take them to finally figure out that we couldn't possibly care less what they think of us.

Go screw yourselves you twonk-faced boobs.

13 posted on 04/08/2003 3:04:09 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: mikenola
Politics of the caveman He urged the US away from a position of isolation which would be "a disaster" and said that American dominance through force would be a "return to the politics of the cave man."

In other words, don't return to isolationism and stop protecting Europe. But only protect yourself if France says it's OK.

14 posted on 04/08/2003 3:05:23 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Timmy
Treat the EU as a hole? Done! It's already a stinking rathole of terrorism and appeasement.
15 posted on 04/08/2003 3:05:28 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I predict hysteria at the UN)
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To: mikenola
That's Cowboy's not Cavemen you EU inbred puke!

Good Cowboys bring peace when they come!

RERUNS WILL BE SEEN IN IRAN, SYRIA, AND NORTH KOREA IF THEIR DICTATORS ARE STILL IN POWER!

16 posted on 04/08/2003 3:06:02 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If you like a Strong Free Republic, become a monthly donor! Freedom isn't free!)
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To: kimoajax
Does anyone remember why most of the early settlers came to America? To get away from jerks like this who have kept working class people "in their place" even 250 years later. There are communities founded by germans and chechs in central Texas taht are the reuslt of religous persecution. They type that is practiced today in Germany. That don't use those words, they just look down their nose at people that believe in God.
18 posted on 04/08/2003 3:08:36 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: mikenola
Gee Whiz...do you think that it's something in the water over there?
19 posted on 04/08/2003 3:08:41 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: mikenola
"How much additional security does an aircraft carrier bring? Is it more or less than spending the equivalent amount of money on peacekeeping or reconstruction of failed states?"

A Heck of a lot more. (Then again, a single shot pistol in the hands of a free man provides more security than all the UN operations in the world combined.)

20 posted on 04/08/2003 3:10:28 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I predict hysteria at the UN)
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