House Judiciary Questions Ashcroft

CNSNews ^ | April 3,2003 | Jeff Johnson

[cynicom]

The sheep are asleep because the shepard and his dog are easy to get along with.

[ninenot]

Sensen's pretty bright, although he doesn't SOUND that way over the air. If you really want to get the dope on the Patriot Act, go to the CNS story. About 1/2 way through there's a link to the Rutherford Institute's critique (95 pages in Acrobat.)

[anncoulteriscool]

Yeah that Ashcroft guy is dangerous..why he reads the Bible, prays and sings hymns...why that enough evidence to me to prove he's a facist nazi.......but i'll say one thing for you ashcroft-bashers: JUST LIKE THE MENTALLY ILL< YOU SURE ARE FUN TO WATCH! LOL!

[RJCogburn]

why he reads the Bible, prays and sings hymns

Bill Clinton did that too.

[ninenot]

Able to discuss things rationally AFTER you take your meds?

Then please take them.

Ashcroft's interpretation of the law (and the potential for un-Constitutional mis-interpretation AND enforcement) are subject to review by the Congress.

That's what the Congressmen are doing.

And if you think the Rutherford Institute is a bunch of atheist Ashcroft-haters, you are in need of a brain transplant, not just meds...

[cynicom]

Clinton carried a rather "large" bible into and out of church and the pastor WELCOMED him every sunday, gave him blessing.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Yeah that Ashcroft guy is dangerous..why he reads the Bible, prays and sings hymns...why that enough evidence to me to prove he's a facist nazi.......

John Whithead of the Rutherford Institute, a Christian civil liberties organisation, also reads the bible, prays and sings hymns. i suppose that makes him a liberal tin-foil-hat shrill because he and his organisation are concerned about the violation of civil rights?

BTW, i haven't seen anyone say a single word good or bad about Atty. Gen. Ashcroft's religious activities on this thread except you and now me.

but i'll say one thing for you ashcroft-bashers: JUST LIKE THE MENTALLY ILL< YOU SURE ARE FUN TO WATCH! LOL!

POT-KETTLE-BLACK or "Waaaaa they're persecuting us!"

[anncoulteriscool]

zzzzzzzzzz...your boring...LOL!

[ninenot]

Looks like AnnieCoulter has a VERY small vocabulary...

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

zzzzzzzzzz...your boring...LOL!

TRANSLATION:

"i just got stumped when they proved i have no idea what i'm talking about."

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Looks like AnnieCoulter has a VERY small vocabulary...

She (?) also needs to work on those grammar skills, your = you're

[mrsmith]

"Sensen's pretty bright" ... and he doesn't think Ashcroft is Hitler!
But seriously, it was Conyer's input that I figured would result in a lot of stupid loaded questions in the letter.

Whitehead is an "Ashcroft-hater"- but more intelligent and honest than most.
I'm a big Ashcroft fan. AG is a very tough job these days.

That critique is old, they should write something that reflects the FISA appeals court ruling- which addresses many misunderstandings people have about the Act.

I recommmend the Federalist Society's critique.

[anncoulteriscool]

Simply saying that NUTS like you have not proven anything you've just made outrageous accusation. When you actually prove something we'll chat....until then let then, as Rush said today, enjoy your times at the 2-inch club meetings! LOL!

[anncoulteriscool]

I agree with you...he seems ok with me.

[duk]

When Ashcroft came into the office I had high hopes, integrity,honor,faith. This whole matter of the Patriot/Homeland laws have turned me 180 degrees. What really puts me in a fighting mood is the fact that the AG secretly had his people put together draft legislation and secretly pass it on to select congressman. Patriot act II if passed will be the "flat line" of this nation. Not only will we not be a Republic, we won't even be a democracy!!

[cynicom]

This where partisan politics overrules common sense. If Janet Reno had tried any such "rights" grab, the republicans would have been storming the gates of DC.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Simply saying that NUTS like you have not proven anything you've just made outrageous accusation. When you actually prove something we'll chat....until then let then, as Rush said today, enjoy your times at the 2-inch club meetings! LOL!

You need to work on your reading skills too.

Personally, i always thought Laura Ingraham was smarter.

[ninenot]

I think the end-game for Sensenbrenner is heading off HRC at the pass.

It is fairly clear that HRC's campaign strategy rests on a few elements, among them gaining VERY solid support with all the public-service unions: AFSCME, Firefighters, Police Ass'ns (not to mention NEA, AFL, etc., etc.)

In order to win their support, HRC is agitating ferociously for more Fed bucks to go to police/fire departments nationally (although she's using NYC as the lead dog on the sled team.) In effect, she is purchasing the support of the unions with tax dollars, a well-worn and highly successful path to High Office. It doesn't hurt in the least that the OTHER principal beneficiaries in this scheme are the big-city Mayors.

HRC is using the Patriot Act's provisions (and a few other misguided Federal laws) to clear the path for Federal money. Thus, Sensenbrenner must find a way to curb the flow.

Beyond that, the Patriot Act has some very questionable elements. Rational people agree that Ashcroft is NOT the problem--but his successors might be.

The Act points out the truth in the old saw that 'hard cases make bad law.' Something HAD to be DONE!!!! Well, they did it, aggrandizing the Feds...

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Yep