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Columbia Prof De Genova On The Holocaust (Archive)
Slate ^ | July 9, 2002 | Samantha M. Shapiro

Posted on 04/02/2003 8:39:57 PM PST by Mister Magoo

"It's on statements like this one attributed to Nicholas DeGenova, a professor of Latino studies at Columbia University, in the April 18 edition of the Columbia Spectator: "The heritage of the victims of the Holocaust belongs to the Palestinian people. The state of Israel has no claim to the heritage of the Holocaust."

Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2002, at 12:35 PM PT

chatterbox

An "anti-Semitism index" that's less than scientific.

How the ADL Counts Anti-Semites

By Samantha M. Shapiro

THE Anti-Defamation League last month released a survey stating that fully 17 percent of the U.S. population holds beliefs that are "strongly anti-Semitic." The report also said that 35 percent of Latinos and 35 percent of African-Americans were "strongly anti-Semitic." Wow, I thought, that's a lot of Jew-haters! On closer inspection, though, the ADL's methodology seems pretty shaky.

How does the ADL measure anti-Semitism? With an "anti-Semitism index," of course. Respondents are asked to comment on 11 supposedly inflammatory statements about Jews. Those who agree with anywhere from two to five of the statements are "middle" anti-Semites-"not completely prejudice-free in their attitudes toward Jews, but not an audience to be deeply worried about." Those who agree with six or more of the statements are "most" (i.e., "strongly") anti-Semitic.

Here are the 11 statements:

Jews stick together more than other Americans. Jews always like to be at the head of things. Jews are more loyal to Israel than America. Jews have too much power in the U.S. today. Jews have too much control and influence on Wall Street. Jews have too much power in the business world. Jews have a lot of irritating faults. Jews are more willing than others to use shady practices to get what they want. Jewish businesspeople are so shrewd that others don't have a fair chance at competition. Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind. Jews are not just as honest as other businesspeople.

Even the ADL concedes that "at least one or two" of the above statements are "arguably ambiguous." (They're included only because they've been part of the group's methodology since 1964.)

In reality, about half the above statements can be described as (varyingly cartoonish) descriptions of cultural traits widely ascribed to Jews that are either neutral or flattering.

Statements such as "Jewish business people are so shrewd that others don't have a fair chance at competition" and "Jews always like to be at the head of things" are really just ham-handed ways of saying that Jews tend to be smart, a generalization that in other contexts Jews might agree with.

Even a genuinely offensive statement such as "Jews have too much power" might conceivably win endorsement not because the respondent hates Jews but because the respondent hates power. When you rephrase it as a multiple-choice question ("Which group has too much power?"), significantly fewer people choose "Jews."

In the survey, the 11 "anti-Semitic" statements are camouflaged by other "positive and neutral" statements about Jews, responses that the ADL ignores when compiling its anti-Semitism index. Among the philo-Semitic ones are statements that Jews have a special commitment to social justice and that Jews have contributed much to America's cultural life.

(Interestingly, the ADL finds that "an overwhelming majority of Americans accept virtually all the positive statements about Jews.") But the camouflage works all too well: The "positive and neutral" statements are often indistinguishable from the "anti-Semitic" ones. It is stated, for instance, that Jews place a strong emphasis on the importance of family life. Why should this be regarded as less offensive than "Jews stick together more than other Americans"? The latter may be an anti-Semitic trope, but it's circulated with pride at your average Shabbat afternoon lecture of the National Conference of Synagogue Youth. It also inspires admiration in other ethnic groups. Tellingly, the ADL report claims there are much higher rates of anti-Semitism in foreign-born Latinos than those who were born in America-44 percent versus 20 percent. But perhaps what that number really shows is that recent immigrants value sticking together and remaining loyal to the mother country.

In some instances, the ADL's methodology may be drastically underestimating the extent of anti-Semitism. For example, the survey states a gratifyingly low (three percent) rate of anti-Semitism on campus. From this it concludes that anti-Semitism is more common among less-educated people. But is that really so? After all, college students are well-schooled in the "correct" answers to the ADL quiz. If, as many Jewish groups assert, anti-Semitism is piggybacking anti-Israel sentiment on campuses, it's not on statements like "Jews are shrewd in business." It's on statements like this one attributed to Nicholas DeGenova, a professor of Latino studies at Columbia University, in the April 18 edition of the Columbia Spectator: "The heritage of the victims of the Holocaust belongs to the Palestinian people. The state of Israel has no claim to the heritage of the Holocaust." The ADL poll has no way of gauging agreement with that idea. But since it was volunteered publicly by a person who influences thought and opinion, it seems much likelier than any of the anti-Semitism index's statements to reflect genuine hostility toward Jews.


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KEYWORDS: columbia; degenova; holocaust; nicholasdegenova
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1 posted on 04/02/2003 8:39:58 PM PST by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
A heaping pile of steaming hatred.
2 posted on 04/02/2003 8:42:47 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Mister Magoo
 
Thanks for the post!

3 posted on 04/02/2003 8:43:22 PM PST by Radix (Thanks for the post.)
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To: Mister Magoo
And the Jews still cozy up to the left. Has always been a mystery.
4 posted on 04/02/2003 8:43:29 PM PST by Conservateacher
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To: Mister Magoo
And the Jews still cozy up to the left. Has always been a mystery.
5 posted on 04/02/2003 8:43:34 PM PST by Conservateacher
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To: Mister Magoo
DeGenova is a hater.
6 posted on 04/02/2003 8:43:34 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (The "Anti-War Leaders" Have Blood On Their Hands, look and you'll find, they are NOT anti-war)
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To: Mister Magoo
Jews always like to be at the head of things" are really just ham-handed ways of saying that Jews tend to be smart.

That's a moronic interpretation.
'head of things' means power, not how smart they are. what a nitwit.

I think it's a very fair question. Test whether someone is paranoid of Jewish power grab.

7 posted on 04/02/2003 8:45:01 PM PST by nanomid
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To: Mister Magoo
De Genova is the heir to a failed DNA test to increase IQ by Dr Mengala
8 posted on 04/02/2003 8:45:05 PM PST by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall elect one more "W")
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To: sistergoldenhair
on your list
9 posted on 04/02/2003 8:47:57 PM PST by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: Mister Magoo
Good catch, Magoo! DeGenova is blinded by his hatred for Jews. A perfect Arab ally.

I'm glad he's scared and in hiding. Now he knows how Anne Frank felt during the Holocaust.
10 posted on 04/02/2003 8:49:37 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I am so tired of the Jew haters.

The backward people of the Middle East have not yet come out of the Dark Ages.

That is so sad.

We just have to make the difference

We shall always do the right thing

We are Americans

We shall make a difference

Let America get it, again.

It is about time that we have gotten a President with some sack

Go President Bush

11 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:47 PM PST by Radix
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To: Mister Magoo; CARepubGal; drstevej
THE Anti-Defamation League last month released a survey stating that fully 17 percent of the U.S. population holds beliefs that are "strongly anti-Semitic."

Even on freerepublic we find many Jew haters.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/882544/posts
12 posted on 04/02/2003 8:51:39 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Kay Soze
There's gotta be a reason.
13 posted on 04/02/2003 8:57:04 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Kay Soze
De Genova

Mussolini's protege

14 posted on 04/02/2003 9:03:29 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: All
Nicholas de Genova is insane.

The Holocaust is generally understood to be the Nazi massacre of six million Jews and the associated crimes committed by Nazis against Jews.

What is the heritage of the Holocaust to sane people?

Never Again.

That's it in two words.

Historically, the heritage was the allocation by the United Nations of land comprising the state of Israel.

In my view the heritage continues to include the series of aggressions against Israel by her neighbors beginning in 1948 and continuing to the terror attacks by Arafat and others, including but not limited to, al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad.

These attacks are financed and orchestrated by Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and others.

These attacks are given silent approval and encouragement by France and Germany and others.

Obviously de Genova is as full of hate for Jews as any contemporary skinhead--or "Palestinian".

He is a particularly vile embodiment of the hatred of Jews demonstrated by the Egyptian press which praises "our comrade Adolf Hitler of blessed memory who had the privilege of killing six million Jews."

de Genova must be removed from Columbia.

Columbia president Bollinger's email is bollinger@columbia.edu.

President Bollinger

Nicholas de Genova not only wished a million Mogadishus upon American troops.

He is on record as a Holocaust "reviser"--claiming that the "heritage of the Holocaust is the plight of the Palestinians."

You must remove this sick, sick man from your faculty immediately.

15 posted on 04/02/2003 9:12:34 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Centurion2000
Good post.. good find... I sure this will get picked on the web & talk radio tommrow
16 posted on 04/02/2003 9:15:41 PM PST by tophat9000
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To: Conservateacher
Without getting into a debate over the definition of a Jew--i.e., by faith or birth, as a general rule of thumb, note I said general, you'll find Hassidic and Orthodox to be very conservative, while reform are liberal. Reform are Jewish by birth and not religious, while the first two are very religious, especially the Hassidic.

Again, this is a general rule and somewhat of an oversimplification---the more they go to the Temple and follow the law, the more conservative----similar to protestants.
17 posted on 04/02/2003 9:15:47 PM PST by Founding Father
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To: PhilDragoo
Great Post.

More than insane- he is ignorant of recent history.

What does he know about the human condition or history that he can share with students?

This may speak well of Columbia’s academic freedoms but does not demonstrate that Columbia has qualified staff.
19 posted on 04/02/2003 10:05:22 PM PST by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall elect one more "W")
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To: Mister Magoo; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880687/posts
Terror Teacher- Columbia's Nicholas De Genova message of "Death to America!"
various FR links | 03-31-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
20 posted on 04/03/2003 1:07:29 AM PST by backhoe (North Korean Nukes, Hamas, OBL, 9-11... that was some "legacy" Clinton left us...)
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