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Professor Nicholas DeGenova: Are You Hoping My Son in Law Dies?
dfu | 3-30-03 | dfu

Posted on 03/30/2003 12:33:09 PM PST by doug from upland

E-MAIL TO PROF. NICHOLAS DEGENOVA, Columbia University Asst. Prof. of Anthropology:

Professor DeGenova, I would appreciate an answer to this communication. I want to briefly introduce you to my son-in-law Josh who is currently serving in the Middle East helping to defend the freedom of the United States. He is 22 years old, and my little girl misses him terribly. It is a great sacrifice for both of them. He is patriotic, dedicated, a hard worker, and has just signed up for another three years.

You have been quoted as recently saying, "I wish for a million Mogadishus." Since I have not heard a retraction, I presume the quote is accurate.

I do not usually take personally the statements of those who oppose the current war. We all have our viewpoint. Josh is proud to defend yours, unless, of course, the viewpoint includes advocating the violent death of Americans.

Let me put in bluntly. Is Josh among those whom you wish dead? Would you take joy in watching his body mutilated and dragged through the streets of Baghdad? If not him, whose sons and daughters do you wish would suffer the fate of the men who were mutilated in Mogadishu?

Professor, you have a short window of opportunity to take back your statement and issue an apology. I hope you will be man enough to do it.

I wish no harm to you and your family as you apparently wish to Josh, my family, and all those serving and their families. What action will be taken should you refuse, I do not yet know, but you have made this personal.

Please do the right thing.

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I don't know where this will go, but it cannot stand. Columbia receives federal government funds. Those funds should cease until he is fired. He has the freedom of speech to say what he wants, but advocating the death of Americans during time of war should have consequences.

Will someone please provide info regarding the university's major donors?

Perhaps NY FReepers might want to FReep him in person.

Letters to the editor certainly need to be written.

Maybe an ad can be placed in the school newspaper that shows bodies being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu.

Perhaps his neighbors and every veteran's organization in the area need to see his words in print on a flyer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: columbia; degenova; treason
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1 posted on 03/30/2003 12:33:09 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
You are so fantastic!! Thank you for posting this.
2 posted on 03/30/2003 12:35:42 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: doug from upland
What was the reaction of the other "professors" who were at this "teach-in" to these remarks? Did any of them have the decency to tell this little slob to leave? Or did they tacitly agree but sitting there and saying nothing? The administration of Columbia University needs to take action on this and if it won't, the US Congress (which controls much of their funding) NEEDS TO!
3 posted on 03/30/2003 12:36:02 PM PST by laconic
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To: doug from upland
Darned sight nicer than the email I sent his sorry hide.
4 posted on 03/30/2003 12:36:43 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: laconic
Other people there tried to "distance" themselves from his remarks. They should have walked out.
5 posted on 03/30/2003 12:38:05 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: doug from upland
"Perhaps NY FReepers might want to FReep him in person."

What do you say, my area freepers? We could manage to arrange this. This story definately has legs, and if the good professor doesn't issue a retraction very soon, he must be made to regret it.

6 posted on 03/30/2003 12:39:35 PM PST by jocon307
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To: doug from upland
I emailed President Bollinger last night and thought I had gotten it off my chest. I was wrong...This woman's letter has upset me all over again.
7 posted on 03/30/2003 12:40:56 PM PST by lainde
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To: doug from upland
I certainly hope that this university wakes up and does the right thing, along with all the other ones whose professors are spouting off with this kind of crap. It will not be tolerated.
8 posted on 03/30/2003 12:41:10 PM PST by CheneyChick (Lock & Load)
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To: laconic
From FOX:

De Genova's hopes for the defeat of the United States were cheered by the crowd of 3,000, according to newspaper reports. But his mention of the Somali ambush -- "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus" -- was largely met with silence.

A call Friday to De Genova, 35, was answered with a recording that said his voice mailbox was full.

Columbia University on Friday issued a statement that distanced the school from his comments but did not condemn them.

"Assistant Professor Nicholas De Genova was speaking as an individual at a teach-in. He was exercising his right to free speech. His statement does not in any way represent the views of Columbia University."

History professor Eric Foner, who helped organize the teach-in and spoke after De Genova, said Friday: "I disagreed strongly and I said so. If I had known what he was going to say I would have been reluctant to have him speak."

Foner said De Genova was a last-minute invitee, was just one of about 25 speakers and "did not represent the general tone of the event, which was highly educational."

"I thought that was completely uncalled for," Foner was quoted as saying, referring to De Genova's allusion to the Mogadishu ambush and firefight, known for the graphic image of a slain American soldier being dragged through the streets. "We do not desire the deaths of American soldiers."

9 posted on 03/30/2003 12:42:44 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: lainde
Excuse me Doug, I think I misread...Is this YOUR letter? If so it is fantastic! My prayers with your son in law! regards...lainde
10 posted on 03/30/2003 12:43:47 PM PST by lainde
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To: lainde
What woman's letter? This letter is from me. Doug is male.
11 posted on 03/30/2003 12:44:16 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: doug from upland
Absolutely right on the money. Good job. I'd like to see that cretin try to worm his way out of his rhetoric now!

-Jay
12 posted on 03/30/2003 12:45:06 PM PST by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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Leftism on Campus ping!

If you would like to be added to the Leftism on Campus ping list, please
notify me via FReep-mail.

Regards...
13 posted on 03/30/2003 12:45:26 PM PST by Hobsonphile (Human nature can't be wished away by utopian dreams.)
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To: laconic
The administration of Columbia University needs to take action on this

President Bollinger's statement on omments by Assistant Professor De Genova:

"I am shocked that someone would make such statements. Because of the University's tradition of academic freedom, I normally don't comment about statements made by faculty members. However, this one crosses the line and I really feel the need to say something. I am especially saddened for the families of those whose lives are at risk."

Sadly, I don't see the words dismiss the professor in there.

14 posted on 03/30/2003 12:48:02 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: doug from upland
"Peace is not patriotic," DeGenova began. "Peace is subversive, because peace anticipates a very different world than the one in which we live--a world where the U.S. would have no place." "U.S. patriotism is inseparable from imperial warfare and white supremacy," he said. "U.S. flags are the emblem of the invading war machine in Iraq today. They are the emblem of the occupying power. The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military."

Between DeGenova's condemnation of patriotism and his call for "fragging"--"I wish," he said, "for a million Mogadishus"--his speech provoked many of the professors who spoke later in the night to assert their disagreement.

15 posted on 03/30/2003 12:48:15 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: doug from upland
Weak. They need to fire his a$$.
16 posted on 03/30/2003 12:48:51 PM PST by CheneyChick (Lock & Load)
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To: Schatze
Do you have Pres. Bollinger's email? I want to forward the letter to him.
17 posted on 03/30/2003 12:50:01 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: doug from upland
Will someone please provide info regarding the university's major donors?

Columbia University gets its big money from the federal government. They jeopardize that money if they tolerate discrimination and if they tolerate sexual harassment. It will be interesting to see if their federal money is jeopardized by the statement of a faculty member.

Pressure on the president of the university obviously will occur, but the real pressure points are the Trustees. They are frequently big money, big power 'guys' who absolutely have influence. The names and affilitations of Columbia's trustees are probably on their webpage.

18 posted on 03/30/2003 12:51:13 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Schatze
Its the usual tut-tut from a liberal horse's ass.
19 posted on 03/30/2003 12:52:06 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: doug from upland
Good letter, Doug - civil, yet unambiguous.
20 posted on 03/30/2003 12:52:19 PM PST by mountaineer
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