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What If Iraqi Army Had Russian MiG-31 Jets? (Pravda)
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| 3/28/3
| Sergey Permyakov
Posted on 03/28/2003 1:05:48 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
It seems that there is absolutely nothing in common between the aggression of the United States and Great Britain in Iraq and the Russian motor enterprise Perm Motors. However, if you pay attention to the fact that the Iraqi army has Mi-8 choppers equipped with TB-2-117 engines that were produced at Perm Motors, a connection becomes clear.
The company manufactures gas turbine plants for the Russian gas giant Gazprom, as well as D-30F6 engines for MiG-31 pursuit planes. If the Iraqi army had several regiments of MiG-31 jets, it is not ruled out that there would be absolutely no war. No aircraft carrier or a bomber plane of the US army would venture to approach the Iraqi border on account of a possibility to be destroyed. The majority of missiles that the US forces launched from their cruisers and planes would also be shot with those battle planes. Sergey Permyakov, a member of the Perm Motors Board of Directors said:
I remember I talked to one of vice presidents of Pratt&Whitney about a year ago. We talked about the point and the need of the defense order of the company Perm Motors. American businessmen said that their participation in Perm Motors share capital did not impede the company from getting the defense order. Americans said that they did not need the defense order, since they did not need military aircraft. I asked them how we were going to defend ourselves from external threats. Americans answered that they would defend us, for they were our friends, not enemies. Then I asked them: Are you going to defend us the same way as you defended Yugoslavia? With missile spot attacks? Pratt&Whitney answered that question of mine in a month time they bought the blocking shareholding of the Perm Motors.
It would be possible to continue the discussion now, when bomber and pursuit jets of our colleagues from Pratt&Whitney fly above the Iraqi territory. However, as experience shows, all international discussions can be possible if the correlation of forces of the debating sides are balanced. Otherwise, a discussion becomes an imposed settlement.
I feel very anxious when I watch news reports about the war. It is painful for me to see the Iraqi people so helpless. However, the anxiety goes by, when I hear MiG-31 flying somewhere nearby. I feel calmer, when I think that the Russian army has modern defense technology. However, what can we oppose to those, who will have a wish to defend us and our different point of view regarding the world order?
It becomes obvious today that the euphoria of eternal friendship with the American nation that developed in Russia during Boris Yeltsins era has to give way to sober pragmatism and calculation in all international affairs. Those people, who deal with it, have to deal with it.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: backstabbers; delusionalrussians; froghadwings; gazprom; iraqifreedom; mi8; mig31; mig31jets; perm; pigsfly; prattwhitney; pravda; russia; smokingcrater; unclewasawoman; yeltsin; yugoslavia
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Yeah right...
To: WaveThatFlag
Oh, how I've missed that euphoria of eternal friendship with the Russians that evolved during the Boris Yeltsin years...
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:08:24 PM PST
by
freelight
To: WaveThatFlag
If the Iraqi army had several regiments of MiG-31 jets . . . . . . they'd be smoldering wreckage in the desert, shot down by pilots with far better training.
To: WaveThatFlag
What if I had monkeys flying out of my butt, my pretty?
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:09:48 PM PST
by
Frank_Discussion
(Time is the fire in which we burn...)
To: WaveThatFlag
As a people with a 1000-year history of allowing themselves to be subjugated and oppressed, can the Russians really be expected to act rationally when left to their own devices?
To: WaveThatFlag
No aircraft carrier or a bomber plane of the US army would venture to approach the Iraqi border on account of a possibility to be destroyed. BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA
Not only that, but our ARMY doesn't fly anymore, dim-wit.
To: WaveThatFlag
They actually believe they could have shot down over 40 cruise missles which all reached their target in a span of less than 30 seconds?
To: WaveThatFlag
If the Iraqi army had several regiments of MiG-31 jets, it is not ruled out that there would be absolutely no war. No aircraft carrier or a bomber plane of the US army would venture to approach the Iraqi border on account of a possibility to be destroyed. I got two word for you, Ivan: Training and tactics.
Iraq could have as many as they want, but using their pilots trained in your tactics, they would be so many smoking holes in short order.
To: WaveThatFlag
Sounds like a sales pitch to other countries: buy our jets and you'll be safe from the American imperialists.
To: WaveThatFlag
What if
???
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:11:22 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Sua Sponte)
To: Numbers Guy
Or more likely rusting on a runway somewhere in Siberia.
To: WaveThatFlag
everyone looking to make a buck...
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:11:49 PM PST
by
hadaclueonce
("shoot low, they are riding shetlands.")
To: WaveThatFlag
What if Yugos won the Indy 500?
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:12:11 PM PST
by
Arkinsaw
To: Trailerpark Badass
I still think our friends last night are reading Pravda. ;-)
To: hadaclueonce
they blowed up real good!!!
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:12:36 PM PST
by
bedolido
To: WaveThatFlag
I wish Cotton was a monkey
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:13:13 PM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
To: WaveThatFlag
Mikoyan MiG-31M "Foxhound-B"
Under development since 1984, the MiG-31M, a substantially improved MiG-31, will most likely not see service. Only six prototypes have been built, and none have been ordered, although it was originally scheduled to enter service in the mid-1990s. The MiG-31M can carry six under-fuselage missiles in three columns. It can carry the R-37, a development of the R-33 (AA-9 'Amos'), and the R-77 (AA-12 'Adder'). A fully-retractable IRST and a new 1.4m-diameter Phazotron phased-array radar, which can simultaneously engage six targets, are used. The redesigned rear cockpit has three color CRT MFDs. The MiG-31M also has a one-piece canopy and windscreen, a bulged, wider dorsal spine for more fuel, no gun, and uprated engines. Aerodynamic refinements include redesigned LERXes for better high AoA handling, larger curved fin root fillets, and smaller wing fences. It also has a larger brake parachute housing, a retractable IFR probe on the starbord side (as opposed to on the port side like on the standatd MiG-31), rounder wingtips with front and rear dielectric panels, and the nosewheel landing gear is redesigned. Its maximum takeoff weight is raised to 52,000 kg (114,537 lb). One has been observed with large finned wingtip ESM pods. The MiG-31D is a version with the "Foxhound-A's" 1.1m-diameter radar. Converted MiG-31Ds are called MiG-31BS.
Hmmm, a viable opponent? Yes, but still bulky. give me a F-15, or an F-16 anyday!
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:13:17 PM PST
by
Zavien Doombringer
(If I could get a degree in trivia, I would have my Doctorate!)
To: TADSLOS
Forget the old phrase "when pigs fly." With enough genetic engineering, it might happen.
Try "when pigs floss."
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:13:27 PM PST
by
Poohbah
(Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
To: WaveThatFlag
"What If Iraqi Army Had Russian MiG-31 Jets"It depends..... If they left them on the air field, they would blown up in place, if they put them in the air, they would get shot down :-)
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posted on
03/28/2003 1:13:44 PM PST
by
MJY1288
(We're Rolling)
To: WaveThatFlag
What if the Iraqi Army had Russian MiG-31 jets? It would be even further evidence that the Russians have been ignoring the arms embargo.
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