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Now Do You Understand What Israel Is Up Against? (Israeli take on post-war scenario)
Israel Forum ^ | March 25, 2003 | I. Brodsky

Posted on 03/25/2003 1:00:23 PM PST by nwrep

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Now Do You Understand What Israel Is Up Against?
March 25, 2003
By ibrodsky
Now Do You Understand What Israel Is Up Against?

So what can the U.S. expect in Iraq once the conventional war ends? Count on a protracted campaign of lies, terrorism, and public gloating over cruelly-inflicted coalition losses. There is no doubt we will win the conventional war with Iraq. But will we win the war of attrition that is certain to follow?
(IsraelForum.com) -- Many Americans thought Operation Iraqi Freedom would be a cakewalk. They didn?t expect enemy soldiers dressed like civilians, surrenders staged to ambush coalition soldiers, and dead American POWs with bullet holes in their foreheads. They weren?t fully aware of the barbarism endemic to totalitarian Arab and Islamic regimes.

Hopefully, now the U.S. will better understand the dangers confronting tiny Israel, and why restraint and survival are sometimes mutually exclusive.

Palestinian terrorists wrote the book on hiding among civilians. But there?s much more to the story. Palestinian terrorists welcome civilian casualties on both sides. They sneak past soldiers in order to kill ordinary Israelis. They hide among their own people not so much to evade capture as to reap the public relations rewards that follow when their civilians are accidentally killed during Israeli incursions.

As Seen in Jenin

Israelis are also quite familiar with enemies that pretend to surrender so they can ambush and slaughter those preparing to accept prisoners. In April of 2002, Palestinians in Jenin feigned surrender in order to lure 13 Israeli Defense Force soldiers to their deaths. Not satisfied with this deception, and knowing how gullible many Westerners are, the Palestinians proceeded to accuse Israel of massacring residents of Jenin. If Palestinian fighters have principles, one of them must be this: if you get away with one lie be sure to immediately tell another.

Saddam Hussein miscalculated when he decided not to disarm. But the U.S. miscalculated if it expected the Iraqi regime to treat prisoners of war humanely. Israel learned years ago that soldiers captured by Iraq?s neighbor, Syria, are routinely executed. Operating under Syria?s auspices in south Lebanon, the Hezbollah terrorists take this vile practice a step further, kidnapping Israelis and refusing to permit Red Cross visits or provide any information regarding their fate.

How did the U.S. get into this predicament? Saddam spent considerable time preparing for this war. Much of his effort was concentrated on mending relations with Shiite Muslims in southern Iraq and forging alliances with international Islamist terrorists. While some critics of Operation Iraqi Freedom complain it is a distraction from the War against Terrorism?citing lack of evidence of Iraqi ties to Al Qaeda?nothing could be further from the truth.

There is no doubt we will win the conventional war with Iraq. But will we win the war of attrition that is certain to follow? Like Nazism in the 20th century, Islamism is a fanatical and irrational political movement. Followers are not just willing to die for the cause, they are eager to achieve "martyrdom." It does not matter to them whether victory takes one year or one hundred years.

Post-War Perils

So what can the U.S. expect in Iraq once the conventional war ends? Count on a protracted campaign of lies, terrorism, and public gloating over cruelly-inflicted coalition losses. If ever there was a political movement based on the belief that the ends justify the means, it is Islamism.

To keep Islamists from seizing power in Iraq, the U.S. will be forced to remain there for a long time. This will be condemned throughout the Muslim world as "illegal occupation." Islamists will unleash a wave of terrorism which they will call "resistance," while Islamist mass murderers pose as victims of U.S. "racism" and "war crimes."

The Arab world will exploit strained relations between the U.S. and France, Germany, and Russia, and will milk United Nation?s forums for all the propaganda they are worth. They will do everything they can to channel the misery of their own poor and oppressed masses into envy of the U.S. and Israel.

Understanding Our Ally

We must win this war if our children?and their children?are to remain free. One lesson from Vietnam is that we should never go to war without clearly defined and achievable objectives. But there is another, equally important lesson: in order to achieve those objectives we must correctly identify our enemies and allies.

We must find the courage to call our enemy by their rightful name. Saying we are at war with "international terrorists" is like saying we are at war with "foreign soldiers." We are, more specifically, at war with militant Islam, also known as Islamism.

Likewise, we must find the courage to acknowledge a key ally in the war against Islamism. Israel has been on the front lines of this war since it began. It?s time to stop scolding Israel for taking actions forced upon her by an evil enemy. Israel has the right to fight with the same determination and purpose as the U.S.

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1 posted on 03/25/2003 1:00:23 PM PST by nwrep
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2 posted on 03/25/2003 1:03:11 PM PST by nwrep
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3 posted on 03/25/2003 1:05:06 PM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; Peach; MadIvan; ...
Thanks for posting this.

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4 posted on 03/25/2003 1:06:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: nwrep
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5 posted on 03/25/2003 1:06:28 PM PST by dennisw
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To: nwrep
Well, hopefully Israel will understand that trying to negotiate peace with evil regimes doesn't work and blowing up a few buildings doesn't work.

Israel has never gone far enough to eliminate the Palestinian problem.

6 posted on 03/25/2003 1:15:04 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: dennisw
In order to get the full appreciation for what Israel is up against, the U.S. needs to start building settlements in Iraq as soon as the war is over. Build them everywhere.

Then we'll understand.

7 posted on 03/25/2003 1:18:33 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: nwrep
"Many Americans thought Operation Iraqi Freedom would be a cakewalk . . ."

I keep hearing this said, but I do not recall anyone in the administration or the military saying any such thing. They are confident of ultimate victory, but have never said it would be easy or without cost. .
8 posted on 03/25/2003 1:20:04 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: robertpaulsen
"In order to get the full appreciation for what Israel is up against, the U.S. needs to start building settlements in Iraq as soon as the war is over. Build them everywhere."

You already did that. And let me tell you it succeeded magnificently. The country is called the United States.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 1:26:20 PM PST by Asher
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To: Steve_Seattle
No, it's only the general public that expected a cakewalk. Naive from the Gulf War and 8 years of Clinton "sound byte" wars.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 1:28:36 PM PST by EaglesUpForever (Ne messez pas avec le US)
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To: mach.08
"They are an ally, and we could use some help. (a little return on the multi-billions in arms we've GIVEN them"

1) Problem is that the United States won't let Israel help.

2) You've been repaid in spades. First off is the massive and unprecedented contribution of Jews to American life. Second, even without that the taking out of that Iraq nuclear reactor by Israel in the face of opposition of the entire world including the U.S. probably saved the entire world from being destroyed by Saddam. Fair exchange I think.

Besides you've given countless billions to wealthy Europe by protecting her for over fifty years. I don't recall that she's ever done very much for the United States. Ditto Korea and Taiwan. So why pick on Israel?
13 posted on 03/25/2003 1:31:46 PM PST by Asher
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To: nwrep
Brodsky's appreciation of the future of the Iraq situation is very similar to mine. In order to succeed in Iraq we will need many decades, if not centuries, of occupation. My original appreciation was that about two million men would be required. Of course, I am not the most optimistic of persons.
14 posted on 03/25/2003 1:33:12 PM PST by Iris7
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To: mach.08
The best way that Israel could help us is by protesting against the war in Iraq. Let's have them offer to send troops to Iraq to help drive the invaders out....

The next thing you know, all the Muslim countries would instantly condemn Iraq and offer to send forces to conquer Iraq. The Iraqis would start commiting spontaneous suicide for being pro-Israeli infidels and then our problems would be solved

15 posted on 03/25/2003 1:36:10 PM PST by Theophilus (Muslim Clerics who issue terrorist fatwas are Weapons Of Mass Destruction)
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To: Asher
Why pick on Israel?


Why not.

According to the big 6'7" guy with the funny towel on his head and the kidney problem whose followers have a penchant for flying airplanes into tall buildings...Israel is the problem. Right from the horses mouth.

No one can ever quite answer the "friendship" thing between Israel and the US.


.....seems a bit one sided, if you ask me.....
17 posted on 03/25/2003 1:44:16 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: mach.08
The bastards who started this war are Iraqi, French, Chinese, and Russian. Don't blame Bush.
18 posted on 03/25/2003 1:46:41 PM PST by EaglesUpForever (Ne messez pas avec le US)
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To: Asher
Yeah, the United Nations gave us New England 1620. Not satisfied with that, we later expanded our settlements westward (for security purposes only).
19 posted on 03/25/2003 1:48:46 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: nwrep
If Palestinian fighters have principles, one of them must be this: if you get away with one lie be sure to immediately tell another.

I thought this was one of the Democrat Party's principles. I wonder which one learned this from the other?

20 posted on 03/25/2003 1:50:12 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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