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To: boris
Can someone explain to me:

1. Why our surveillance aircraft do not fly routinely with a fighter escort?

Three reasons. One, is that the long range recon planes would outdistance short range fighters. Two, the fuel for the fighters would be very expensive. Three, in peacetime, there should be no need for either one or two at all, because all these planes operate in international waters / airspace. (Granted, the situation in North Korea will soon rate fighter escorts. I personally think it does now.)

2. Why the E3 that was forced down by the Chinese did not have a 'destruct' button which would destroy all sensitive equipment and data?

Because anything that the military makes is bound to not work at least once a year. A faulty self destruct system or accident could blow hundreds of millions of dollars and a dozen highly skilled operators out of the sky for no reason, and we'd have no way of knowing that they weren't shot down.

3. If the E3 did have such a system, why the mission commander did not use it?</>

They wouldn't need to, even if they did. Once the encryption is zeroed (which takes a few seconds) , the remaining stuff is on the whole nothing you couldn't buy off the shelf (in China, for that matter). We used to help Soviet planes that landed in Alaska in trouble, and sent them on their way. We had no reason to think that China would send our plan back UPS, after tearing it apart.

6 posted on 03/04/2003 9:05:13 AM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: Steel Wolf
"Three reasons. One, is that the long range recon planes would outdistance short range fighters. Two, the fuel for the fighters would be very expensive. Three, in peacetime, there should be no need for either one or two at all, because all these planes operate in international waters / airspace. (Granted, the situation in North Korea will soon rate fighter escorts. I personally think it does now.)"

Fighters can be refueled. Fuel is expensive. How expensive is the E3 and the crew?

"Because anything that the military makes is bound to not work at least once a year. A faulty self destruct system or accident could blow hundreds of millions of dollars and a dozen highly skilled operators out of the sky for no reason, and we'd have no way of knowing that they weren't shot down."

You misunderstand. I mean slag down the electronics so they cannot be reverse-engineered, and physically destroy (automatically) all storage media. Such a system would (if I were on the design team) require 'two keys', i.e., two different individuals would have to turn keys at different positions and then the commander hits The Big Red Button. It seems to me that this is only prudent; I would regard any design of a state-of-art surveillence plane deficient if it did not possess such a system.

" They wouldn't need to, even if they did. Once the encryption is zeroed (which takes a few seconds) , the remaining stuff is on the whole nothing you couldn't buy off the shelf (in China, for that matter). We used to help Soviet planes that landed in Alaska in trouble, and sent them on their way. We had no reason to think that China would send our plan back UPS, after tearing it apart."

I beg to disagree. As I indicate above, electronics can be reverse engineered. Intact electronics will suggest--at the very least--what electronic countermeasures they might be vulnerable to. And I have less faith than "zeroing the encryption" than you do. When the E3-A was forced down by the Chinese there were reports of the crew using fire axes(!) to try to destroy some of the equipment.

--Boris

7 posted on 03/04/2003 9:15:39 AM PST by boris
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To: Steel Wolf; boris
Three reasons. ...

Two more possibilities. It would give the impression that we're (a) looking for a fight, or (b) unsure of our location/mission/status/justification.

9 posted on 03/04/2003 9:47:57 AM PST by newgeezer (If it's not somewhat cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.)
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