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Saddam's Serb Supplier: How our last enemy has been arming our next one.
Washington Monthly Online ^ | 2/24/03 | Dave Maresh

Posted on 02/24/2003 7:53:37 PM PST by Callahan

Last October, several dozen American troops assembled outside an anonymous new low-rise factory building in a half-empty industrial park on the outskirts of Bijeljina, a small town in northeastern Bosnia. The owner of the factory, a firm called Orao, was well known among arms dealers and weapons manufacturers. During the 1980s, when a still-intact Yugoslavia maintained the fourth largest military in Europe, Orao was the Yugoslav Air Force's contractor of choice for jet engine maintenance. After the partition of Bosnia in 1995 and in defiance of U.N. sanctions, they went into business with a new client: Saddam Hussein. Orao became Iraq's prime contractor for servicing its Mig-21 jet engines. When NATO soldiers finally raided the plant, seizing everything on site, they found, among other things, a long letter on the stationary of Yugoimport, the Yugoslav government's arms trading company. The letter explained to the firm's Baghdad buyer what to do if U.N. weapons inspectors arrived. First, it instructed, the Iraqis were to remove all evidence of the Orao connection and disassemble the engines. Once the inspectors left, the letter continued, Orao would reassemble the upgraded MiG-21 jet engine--free of charge, as part of the contract agreement.

Few Americans know about the connection between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the former Yugoslav National Army, the front end of a military-industrial complex riddled with mafia connections and ties to Serbian nationalist groups. But the story is a cautionary tale about how, at the dawn of the 21st century, the lawlessness and chaos of one rogue regime or failed state can--if left untended--spill over into the affairs of others, with potentially dreadful consequences.

Three American administrations have now had to grapple with the wreckage of the former Yugoslavia, with little success. The administration of George H.W. Bush did its best to avoid involvement in the Balkans; as then-Secretary of State James Baker famously said, "We've got no dog in this fight." When the Clinton administration finally intervened in force, first in Bosnia and later in Kosovo, the effect was more to stop warfare than to project real peace and civility: by rooting out endemic corruption, arresting war criminals, and establishing the rule of law. There was neither a serious nor a sustained effort to reshape the region's basic institutions or place the various countries of the former Yugoslavia on a path toward achieving political stability, civic rights, and economic growth, as America did successfully in Germany and Japan after World War II. The result was to end bloodshed but leave the region in a state of endemic lawlessness, free from war but rife with organized violence and corruption. In other words, the Clinton policy freed the region from war but abandoned it to rule by often-government-connected mafias.

But even this low level of involvement was more than the current White House seems willing to bear. Instead of working to root out Bosnia's endemic corruption, arrest war criminals, and establish the rule of law, the Bush administration has been angling for two years to extricate us from the region--and America and Europe are starting to pay the price. The Balkans today are fertile territory for those seeking to smuggle guns, drugs, and persons into Western Europe. And as the Orao raid revealed, chaos in the Balkans, mostly ignored by the Bush administration, could actually threaten American troops during an invasion of Iraq--a task which has been the chief focus of American foreign policy for more than a year.

Rocket in my Pocket

Yugoslavia's role supplying weapons expertise to Iraq has actually been a well-known fact for several years. Indeed, once Slobodan Milosevic was deposed in 2000, the Bush administration set about trying to get Yugoslavia's new government to crack down on transfers of military equipment and knowledge to Iraq. Little progress was made, however, and last September, as President Bush announced his intention to force Saddam Hussein to give up his weapons of mass destruction, State Department officials summoned Goran Svilanovic, Yugoslavia's foreign minister, to Washington for an explanation. Svilanovic was in the United States to attend the U.N. General Assembly session at which President Bush announced his global campaign against Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. There was, recalls Svilanovic, a new note of urgency. End the Belgrade-Baghdad connection and punish the people who run it, he was told, or risk losing America's goodwill--and billions of dollars in aid. The Orao plant had been especially embarrassing for the United States since it lay in a part of Bosnia nominally under the supervision of American peacekeeping forces.

Soon after the Orao raid, more evidence of a Serb-Saddam connection surfaced. Acting on American intelligence, Croatian police in the port of Rijeka raided the cargo carrier Boka Star, which was supposed to be loaded with "activated charcoal." Instead, it was loaded with 208 metric tons of chemical ingredients for exactly the kind of solid rocket fuel used in Iraqi Scud missiles. This connection was critical, American government sources suggest, because the Boka Star was part of a well-watched fleet that regularly sailed between Tivat, a Yugoslav naval base, and Syria, where many cargoes were trucked to Iraq. Evidence discovered on board indicated that the Boka Star and its bogus cargo had been inaccurately papered several times over by Yugoslav naval and customs officials.

That wasn't the only Tivat connection. Earlier in the year, American officials had learned that a team of Yugoslav military officers from the base had spent two weeks in Iraq consulting, it was believed, on air defense. Around the same time, professors from the University of Belgrade were both teaching and consulting with Iraqis about air defense--and, perhaps even more disturbing, offense. As American officials pieced the evidence together they envisioned a nightmare scenario: Yugoslav experts were contributing to an Iraqi program to retrofit jet trainers for remote piloting, so they could be turned into "poor man's cruise missiles," capable of delivering a 1,000-pound bomb up to 900 miles.

The possibility was more than simply theoretical. As investigators learned at the Orao plant, the same folks who had been repairing and upgrading engines for Iraqi MiG-21s thought they knew how to build a much smaller engine--one that would extend the lift capacity and range of the jet trainers. Officials in Baghdad and Bosnia had apparently discussed the matter. Dr. James Lyon, head of the Belgrade office of the conflict analysis organization International Crisis Group, says his sources believe a prototype for the engine was actually built. (Others think the plans haven't progressed quite that far. Dejan Anastasijevic, a respected Yugoslavian investigative reporter, says that while some sort of poor man's cruise missile was promised to Iraq, as far as he knows, "It never came past the modeling stage.")

Confronted with all the evidence, Bosnian Serb officials eventually indicted three plant managers at Orao, and may soon charge the retired Air Force commander who heads the firm. The Yugoslav government has sacked two top executives of Yugoimport, both former military officers, as well as a mid-level official in the defense ministry. But U.N. and NATO officials are not impressed.

The Sopranos of Belgrade

The dangerous problems spawned by a failing state reach beyond the illicit Yugoslav-Iraqi relationship. Lawlessness pervades the Yugoslav capitol of Belgrade today. Downtown streets are regularly the scene of mafia assassinations or, in bungled cases, gunfights. And the halls of government are hardly a crime-free zone. "Let me be honest with you," says an adviser to one of the government officials implicated in the Yugoimport scandal. "When we threw out Milosevic, we had to make deals with many of the mafias, to accept this without civil war. Some of the deals kept some people alive. Some of the deals kept people in power. Yugoimport has always been run by the government and the military." Between Yugoslavia's various ethnic militias, criminal syndicates, and paramilitary groups--each of them linked to factions in the government--there's no one left to play the policeman. "Who will move against them?" asks the official.

Lawlessness is also paralyzing development in Bosnia. The Dayton Agreement ended up handing Bosnia back to the three nationalist political parties which had destroyed it, spawning ethnic mafias which have corrupted everyday business and social life in Bosnia. These mafias, along with the remnant armed forces of both the Serb- and Muslim-Croat-controlled territories, are formidable enough that the international officials in Bosnia have been reluctant to challenge them.

There have been exceptions, such as last year's crackdown on suspected al Qaeda militants who had come to Bosnia after September 11 under the protection of the local Muslim nationalist party. But more typical, and more relevant to the lives of most Bosnians, has been the experience of Gen. Jacques-Paul Klein, the greatly admired, recently retired coordinator of U.N. programs in Bosnia. One of Klein's major achievements was shutting down what had been a major migration route for illegal immigrants from Iran, who came through Sarajevo and moved on to parts of Western Europe. Some of these migrants, it is claimed, were either Islamist radicals or terrorists or both. Gen. Klein's first mandate, however, was to create professional police forces for the communities of Bosnia. He was successful, up to a point. All over Bosnia, honest, well-trained local cops can and do investigate criminals. But arrests and prosecutions must be handled at the entity level--that is, by the respective governments of the Bosniak-Croat enclave, known as the Muslim-Croat Federation, and the Serbian territory, called Republika Srpska. Those governments, of course, are themselves rife with criminal connections. "Building a police force is like clapping with one hand, if the other hand is rule of law. There's never been agreement here on what rule of law should be. So what you tend to have is ethnic justice. Without rule of law," Gen. Klein laments, "you have no foreign investment, you have no confidence."

Indeed, foreign investment in Bosnia is conspicuously absent. For the same reason--institutionalized corruption--smaller-scale domestic investment has also been stunted. "You never want to be too successful," says one Sarajevo businesswoman I spoke to. "More to the point, you never want to be seen as too successful. You suddenly have 'partners' you don't want." She describes a friend whose garage grew in business until the proprietor incautiously bought himself a new Audi. "That was the signal," she says. "One day, a guy drops by and tells my friend to change his brand of gasoline. A little later, he comes back for a share of the receipts. A little later, my friend decides he doesn't like this arrangement. There is a fire. My friend is stubborn. There is a beating. My friend is in another business now."

While the dominance of nationalist parties has kept Bosnian schools ethnically segregated--with children learning the mutually exclusive Serb, Croat, and Muslim version of Bosnian history depending on which group they belong to--the corruption of Bosnia's ruling class has taught the student generation a disrespect for law. I saw this disrespect manifested in Sarajevo on New Year's Eve 2001, when kids tossing firecrackers harassed older folks from the corso hours of early evening throughout the night. It was not enough to discomfort survivors of the three-year siege of Sarajevo, for whom simulating the noise of firearms is anything but celebratory; the teenagers delighted in terrorizing older people by hurling the tiny explosives at their feet.

"This absolutely expresses what is happening to that generation," says a good friend of mine, a journalist from Sarajevo. "First, they hated their parents because they could not protect them from the snipers or the bombs of the siege. Now, they hate us because of this shoddy, lawless state we have settled for."

Duly Elected Gangsters

None of this can be fixed overnight. But downsizing the United States' diplomatic or military commitment to the Balkans is certainly not a solution, according to a leading international administrator in Bosnia. "Orao shows, and Yugoimport shows, that in Bosnia and Serbia, there is work yet to be done," says Paddy Ashdown, a British official who heads the European Community's operations in Bosnia. Ashdown points out that without international peacekeepers in Bosnia--the American component of which some Bush administration officials wish to see withdrawn as swiftly as possible--"we wouldn't have discovered [Orao]." If Orao had been left in operation, he argues, Yugoslavian-provided weapons might already be in use shooting down American planes patrolling Iraq, or threatening U.S. troops massing in the Persian Gulf.

More broadly, Bosnia illustrates the dangers of leaving war-torn nations half rebuilt: The thugs and criminals who destroyed the Balkans are now exporting crime and chaos beyond their borders. "You've got a real problem, I think, in the whole of the Balkans," says London military analyst Paul Beaver. According to European law enforcement officials, the failed or failing states of the former Yugoslavia--Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Macedonia--have become the leading suppliers of light arms to the criminal gangs and terrorist groups of Western Europe. "We've got handguns appearing in Britain, more discovered the past few months in Britain than in the decade before, and a lot of those are designs that originate in the former Yugoslavia. They come through Europe into places like Rotterdam and Antwerp and across the Channel, so they now become a problem for Britain as well as for Europe as a whole."

There's a danger, too, in battling lawlessness piecemeal. Even as mafias associated with the former Kosovo Liberation Army have been disarmed in Kosovo, an analogous "liberation movement" has popped up in neighboring Macedonia. As in Kosovo, legitimate Albanian aspirations for civil and political equality have become dissolved into a guerrilla war between criminal gangs and the government. And once again, an anti-Albanian government responded viciously against the civilian population, until an outside force of international peacekeepers got involved. The effect of intervention has been something like peace--but only barely. Criminal gangs who once comfortably used routes through Kosovo, Serbia, and Montenegro now use Macedonia to transport contraband cigarettes, drugs, women, and weapons from failing post-Soviet bloc states like Bulgaria, Romania, and Moldova to Italy, and from there to the markets of Western Europe.

See No Evil

The situation the United States and its European allies now confront is one that started off ugly and complex and only became more so after being allowed to fester for more than a decade. In all the failing states of the former Yugoslavia, allied efforts to advance civility and the rule of law have focused principally on limiting commitment and risk, or on providing protection to international personnel. All have stopped well short of restoring rule of law to local societies. In all these states, lawlessness has empowered the most violent and corrupt elements of pre-war society to dominate local politics and to export the products of their criminal enterprises to Europe, to Iraq, and in the cases of Yugoimport to Libya, Liberia, and Burma--among the most delinquent governments on earth. And while there is plenty of blame to go around for letting it get this bad, the current administration might learn from the mistakes of the previous administration which held back from demanding the sort of robust rules of engagement which might have prevented the slide into crime, thuggery, and lawlessness which the Serb-Iraq connection epitomizes. As the United States cleans up in post-Taliban Afghanistan and prepares to do the same in a post-Saddam Iraq, the dearly learned lesson is or should be: No more Bosnias.

Instead, the Bush administration has turned out to be even more wary of foreign commitments than their predecessors in the Clinton administration. They have pressed to quicken the pace of the draw-down of American forces from Bosnia and Kosovo, while in Afghanistan, American-led international intervention has followed the Balkans pattern of little ventured, little gained for rule of law. The so-called International Security Force provides security for a little less than the capital city Kabul, and hardly anywhere else in Afghanistan. The Bush administration is so eager to avoid responsibility for order in Afghanistan that they've outsourced to mercenaries the work of protecting Afghan President Hamid Karzai. When it comes to controlling the continuing exportation of Islamist radicalism, weapons, and opium, U.S.-administered Afghanistan seems likely to prove the old dictum: You get what you pay for.

Somewhere beyond war-torn Iraq looms post-war Iraq, a cauldron full of political passion, longstanding corruption, and loads of dangerous weapons--including, one assumes, those of mass destruction. Should they reach the world's outlaws as widely and easily as have the dangerous detritus of post-war Yugoslavia, the world will be an unhappier and more dangerous place than it is today.

Dave Marash has won an Emmy Award for his coverage of the Balkans for "Nightline."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; mafia; saddam; serb; warlist
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Damned if you confront international gangsterism, damned if you don't I guess. Where are our peace-loiving allies on this? Seems like they could make themselves useful to someone other than Saddam by helping install order in Bosnia. Almost forgot the U.N. is utterly toothless without the U.S.
1 posted on 02/24/2003 7:53:37 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Callahan
This might explain why Clinton went in and took the Serb's down, they were cutting in on the French and German action.

Wasn't this Clinton's only successful battle?
2 posted on 02/24/2003 7:56:32 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: *balkans
I thought the Serbs were our friends in the war on terror, but it seems they are happy to arm rogue statesin violation of UN embargoes.
4 posted on 02/24/2003 8:02:53 PM PST by ABrit
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To: *war_list; Ernest_at_the_Beach
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5 posted on 02/24/2003 8:18:31 PM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: ABrit; Callahan
ABrit, I don't think we should be that upset with the Serbs. After all they are doing nothing that the French and Germans (and for that matter some U.S. companies) are not doing.

Callahan, IMHO We did bomb the wrong side... And OMG, we didn't get UN aproval.
6 posted on 02/24/2003 8:40:50 PM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Callahan
Every one seems to forget that Saddam was on Western side during the 1980's.

Yugoslavia was one of the main countries that has supplied arms to Iraq in the 80's.

I have spoken to an Serbian Electrical Engineer that used to test electrical systems for the Yugoslav-Iraqi rockets (they used to cooperate on these systems). It is open secret that you can find on the Internet.

The Serbian M-77 Ogan is the Iraqi Al-Ababil-50.

The number of Yugoslav construction companies that used to work in Iraq in the 80's was HUGE!!

the above is on the www.globalsecurity.org website.

These hardened aircraft shelters known as "trapezoid" or "yugos" were built by Yugoslavian contractors prior to 1985. Situated at the end of each runway, the offer aircraft on strip alert, quick access to the runway.

But then again when Iraq invaded Kuwait, Yugoslavia supplied Kuwait with 60 M-80 tanks (improved version of the Russian T-72 tanks). The Kuwaities marched into Kuwait City with the M-80s and is still using these and the tanks were seen recently practising along the American M-1A1 tanks.

Yugoslavia used to service the Iraqi Migs before 1991 and there are still Iraqi Mig-21s and Mig-23s in Yugoslavia at this moment.

You see The Yugoslavs and the Iragis has something in common and that is both had socialist goverments. Saddams Baath Party is nothing more or less than an Arab Socialist Party and it is far from fundamentalist.

Like Milosevic went on to promote Serbian Nationalist in 1991 that is what Saddam did to promote Arab Nationalism. Both are failing because they are despised by their close friends (arabs are muslim hate socialism) and their enemies (usa hates arab socialist the most i.e. Saddam, Gadafi)

7 posted on 02/24/2003 9:24:25 PM PST by bobi
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To: bobi
I have a few questions for people who are in the know. Why did Saddam seem like a workable ally in the 80s? Was it because we feared his oil would fall into the hands of Iranian fundamentalists? Is there any other case where the U.S helped prop up a socialist state? It's my impression the Reaganites spent most of their time fighting communism everywhere it popped up.
8 posted on 02/24/2003 9:37:44 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Callahan
It was because we feared his oil, and that of Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia etc, would fall into the hands of Iranian fundamentalists.
9 posted on 02/24/2003 11:01:01 PM PST by ABrit
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To: Callahan
Yes, Regan used to fight a socialist state where ever it proped up from Nicaragua, Angola, Rhodesia, Ethiopia, Lybia and so on. But of course there was an agreed limit to that.

Lybia and Gadafi was the most favourite terrorist of the 80's and Lybia was the rogue state but could not have been directly invaded due to the still existence of the Soviet Union. That is another reason Saddam was not finnished off in February 1991 as the Soviet Union existed (until August 1991).

The Americans went after the ones who were posing the highest threat as falling dominos.

Iraq was busy in the 1980's fighting Iran for most of the decade. Most of its war machinery was directed toward Iran.

Yugoslavia was communist/socialist but it still received huge amount of US aid and military help.

Go figure this one out: In 1956 a western ally Greece gets its F-86 Sabre fighter from United States.

Also in 1954 Australia gets its first F-86 Fighters.

At that time the F-86 was what a F-16 is now.

From 1956, 121 Canadair Mk4 (former RAF) and 130 ex-USAF F86D where sold to COMMUNIST Yugoslavia!!!

Beside that Yugoslavia got a lot of tanks and APCs that were still running in the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo in 1995 and 1999!! Go figure that one out.

Yugoslavia used to make fighter planes and they never used Russian crappy jet engines but the British Rolls Royce engines same as used in the Italian Macci fighters. The jets were armed with American Mavrick AGM-65 TV guided missiles!! They still have them!

Iraq had Hawker Hunter fighter bomber from the UK and its pilots were trained in the UK.

The head of the Iraqs biological weapons program the "death lady" was trained in the UK university.

10 posted on 02/24/2003 11:39:05 PM PST by bobi
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To: bobi
...not to mention the British BL.755 cluster bombs sold to the SFRJ. Also a successful export was the Galeb trainer which when flown at very low level, was very hard to hit, as proved by a large number of operations during 'Allied Farce' in 1999. And let us not forget the 'Orao' project, a jointly designed and produced (with Roumania) strike figher...

I wonder if the US/Germany has got back the stingers it gave to the BosMos during the '90s?

VRN

P.S. Have a list of weapons provided to the BosMos and Croats in 1991/2. Will post it when I have time - from Defense & Foreign Affairs, October-November 1992 edition.

P.P.S. Saw an article the other day listing the British companies that provided nuclear/biological expertize to the Iraqis. These are companies who were 'deleted' from the UN document on Iraqs' weapons suppliers...

11 posted on 02/25/2003 2:53:25 AM PST by Voronin (Let obsolete military alliances die.)
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To: bobi; ABrit
BINGO!

Revealed: 17 British firms armed Saddam with his weapons

VRN

12 posted on 02/25/2003 4:55:43 AM PST by Voronin (Let obsolete military alliances die.)
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To: Voronin
"Although most of the trade ended in 1991 "

This is ancient history, the Matrix Chrchill people were threatened with prison time when they were found out.

I bet you no British company has breached the sanctions in place since 1991.
13 posted on 02/25/2003 6:40:21 AM PST by ABrit
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To: ABrit
Compared to the nuclear, biological and chemical weapons components that British companies supplied to Saddam, the stuff sent by Serbia is harmless. Most of the allegations originated from the ICG report which the US State Department publically renounced as inaccurate and full of hypotheses.

VRN

14 posted on 02/25/2003 7:39:08 AM PST by Voronin (Let obsolete military alliances die.)
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To: ABrit
ICG report contains speculation and errors: State Department

Belgrade, Dec. 04, 2002 - State Department spokesman Philip Reeker told B92 today that the latest report by the International Crisis Group contains "errors in fact and speculations", adding that Washington cannot endorse it as "accurate assessment of the situation."

"As you know we have our own investigation continuing in a careful and serious way. We have welcomed the public and non-governmental organization engagement in these issues, because they are very important. However, we cannot endorse the International Crisis Group's report as an accurate assessment of the situation. Our view is that the report contains a number of speculative assertions and allegations, as well as some errors in fact," said Reeker.

Asked whether Washington will take into consideration some of the recommendations from the report, Reeker replied he was not going to "engage in a review of the ICG report", since the "ICG is an independent group."

"The team of US expert has completed its initial visit to Yugoslavia. We've been engaged with the Yugoslav Government in determining what violations of UN sanctions have occurred. Our goal is to ensure that such activities have ceased, and we think the Yugoslav Government has recognized the seriousness of the situation, and has pledged to cooperate fully. While much remains to be done, we are very encouraged by the responsible reaction of local authorities and the progress made to date," Philip Reeker told B92.

VRN

15 posted on 02/25/2003 7:57:57 AM PST by Voronin (Let obsolete military alliances die.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Here is a nice story from, (some things there I have never heard before):

http://www.realitymacedonia.org.mk/web/news_page.asp?nid=2381

A 1991 Re-Print: Yugoslavia Supplying Arms To Iraq

Recent reports in the western media have revealed Yugoslav's involvement in supplying weapons to Iraq. Saso Trajcevski-Uzunov (Sasha Uzunov), an Australian journalist, has been investigating the Yugoslav-Iraq connection for over a decade. Below we re-print an article of his that was published in the Croatian Herald, Melbourne, Australia, on 25 January 1991, which, amongst other things, accurately predicted six months in advance the start of the war in the former Yugoslavia.

By Saso Trajcevski-Uzunov, Melbourne, Australia 25 January 1991

Yugoslavia, a de-facto ally of the United States, may be supplying arms to Iraq, despite the United Nations embargo, according to a Melbourne Macedonian man who worked in Iraq five years ago.

The man, who migrated to Australia from Macedonia, one of the six republics that form the federal state of Socialist Yugoslavia, said he did not want to be named.

"I was in Iraq for 15 months and finished my stint as a labourer in 1986," the man said. "I worked for a Yugoslav government firm which built army bases for the Iraqi military. There were also workers from China, Vietnam, and other East European countries.

Iraqi military bases built by Yugoslavia (click on the image for full-scale map) "We had to build an army base 12 kilometres south of An Numaniyah, a town near the Tigris River. It was all desert, and next to us was a rocket or missile base. Everyday, two missiles were fired in the direction of the Iran border. This was the time of the Iraq-Iran war."

"Despite the United Nations calling for a blockade of Iraq," the man said, "I believe Yugoslavia is still giving weapons to Iraq. Yugoslavia desperately needs the oil and the hard currency. It also sells a lot of foodstuffs, including wheat, to Iraq."

Yugoslavia owes 20 billion dollars (US) to foreign banks and governments.

The Yugoslav foreign minister, Mr Budimir Loncar, was in Baghdad a week before war broke out, urging the Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein, to negotiate for a peaceful solution to the Gulf Crisis. This is an indication that Yugoslavia is eager to safeguard its economic interests in the Middle East.

However, a week before Loncar's visit to Iraq, high-ranking officers of the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) were in Washington, conferring with the United States government. It is believed that the US may have given tacit approval for JNA to intervene in Slovenia, Croatia, and perhaps Macedonia. In return, the Yugoslav government pledged to stop supplying Iraq with weapons.

The Macedonian man visited two other bases that were being built by the Yugoslav government. They were near the cities of Ad Diwaniyah and Al Hillah, which are south of Baghdad, the capital.

An air force base at Al Kut, near An Numaniyah, was also constructed by Yugoslavia, the man claimed.

Fifty kilometres north of Baghdad, near the small town of Al Khalis, the Yugoslav government, according to the man, established an arms factory called Crvena Zastava (Red Banner), which produces guns, tanks and jet planes.

"Crvena Zastava is a huge military-industrial complex, which supples weapons to the JNA. As a former army reservist, I knew the Yugoslav government was selling T-82 tanks, which were a modification of the Soviet T-72, and French Gazelle helicopters to Iraq during the Iraq-Iran War (1980-88). Later, I spoke to a Christian Iraqi army officer who I had befriended, and he said the Yugoslav weapons were very useful."

The man remembers seeing small but unusual tanks, about the size of four-cylinder Japanese cars, near the Iraq-Iran border. "They were everywhere, they looked as though they were operated by remote control. I don't know which country produced or sold them."

Seventy per cent of his wages were paid in Yugoslav dinars, the other 30 per cent in American dollars.

"I left Iraq after 15 months because the heat and the sand got to me. It was horrible to see all those dead bodies along the highways. The local people used to hire taxis, which carried the dead on the roofs."

The Soviet Union has provided the bulk of Iraq's arms. However, Yugoslavia, which is close to the west despite being a socialist state, can obtain western military hardware and technology, and pass it on to third world nations such as Iraq.

The Yugoslav air force sells the Galeb (Seagull) and Orao (Eagle) jet planes to Libya and trains Libyan pilots. Yugoslavia also provides Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan ruler, with a female masseuse and a nurse.

The Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) has training bases in Yugoslavia.

In 1986 Slovenian peace activists were imprisoned for criticising the Yugoslav government, which was selling arms to the communist regime of Ethiopia, instead of giving aid for famine victims.

Yugoslavia is a country made up of various nationalities. There are Croats, Macedonians, Slovenians and Serbs, and ethnic Albanians, Hungarians and Turks. The Serbs are the most powerful group in Yugoslavia, like the Russians are in the Soviet Union. When Croatian communist Marshal Josip Broz Tito came to power in 1945, he needed Serbian support. When he died in 1980, the Serbian ruling elite took full control of the country.

Tito broke away from the Soviet Bloc in 1949, and the United States and Great Britain helped the south European country remain free of Moscow. In the 1950s the Western German Secret Service and the American CIA turned a blind eye to the disposal of Tito's opponents. This, in affect, made Yugoslavia a de-facto ally of the United States. But Tito always denied his nation was tied to any of the superpowers.

In 1961, the Yugoslav communist ruler helped to set up the Non Aligned Nations movement, a third bloc not attached to the Soviet Union or America. India, Indonesia, and later Libya, Ethiopia and Iraq became members.

According to Ion Pacepa, a top Romanian Secret Police chief who defected to the United States in 1979, Tito joined forces with the then Romanian communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu in 1973 to sell arms from the west to the Soviet Union and other communist regimes. Pacepa claimed Tito was using his friendship with Washington to secretly strengthen world communism.

With Romanian assistance, Tito began murdering political opponents living abroad. The main victims were Croatians and Macedonians, who the Serbian ruling elite feared the most.

In 1974 Dr Blagoja Sambevski, a Macedonian dissident exiled to West Germany, was murdered in a Munich train station by a Yugoslav Secret Police (UDBa) assassin. The UDBa agent, also a Macedonian, entered Australia under a false name five years ago but left the country a few months later. He has a sister living in Melbourne.

NOW TAKE SOME OF THIS WITH SOME GRAIN OF SALT AS IT WAS PRINTED IN A CROATIAN PAPER, BUT NOT ALL. Yugoslav operations in Iraq are well known. Oh yeah Yugoslavia used to built French Gazelle helicopters under licence and arm them with Russian Air-Surface Missiles for its own use and Iraq.

16 posted on 02/25/2003 2:24:58 PM PST by bobi
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To: Callahan
The above post to JustMythoughts was for you actually
17 posted on 02/25/2003 2:26:16 PM PST by bobi
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To: bobi
What's a T-82? Is it a transvestite M-84?

VRN

18 posted on 02/25/2003 2:39:12 PM PST by Voronin (Let obsolete military alliances die.)
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To: Voronin
Well the article was written by ill informed jouralists.

T-82 is supposed to be M-84 (somewhere above in my post I wrote M-80 but I meant M-84).

Yugoslavia's only version of T-72 was their own M-84. But I don't think Iraq had these. I have seen pictures of Iraqi T-72's but they different from the Yugoslav M-84.

19 posted on 02/25/2003 3:06:33 PM PST by bobi
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Iraq's UN report says 86 German firms did business there: press

Monday, 16-Dec-2002 12:40PM PST

BERLIN, Dec 16 (AFP) - Iraq's arms report to the United Nations shows that more than 80 German companies have done business with Baghdad since the 1970s and that some have contravened a UN embargo, according to a German newspaper.

In its Tuesday edition, the daily Tageszeitung said that the companies included public and private research laboratories and firms which supplied whole systems or components for weapons of mass destruction.

Citing what it claimed were parts of the report, the newspaper said some of the 86 companies that had been doing business in Iraq since around 1975 had continued to do so at least up until 2001.

A spokeswoman for the economy ministry said on Monday that the government had informed parliament in 1990 about materials being supplied to Iraq.

An international embargo was imposed on Iraq in 1990 after it invaded Kuwait.

The newspaper said the report also includes information about firms trading in electronics components which fall under the "dual use" category of materials that can be used for military or civilian purposes.

Some German companies are already the subject of legal proceedings for their dealings with Baghdad.

Two businessmen are to go on trial in Germany in January accused of supplying Iraq with equipment to build a long-range cannon capable of firing weapons of mass destruction.

A 59-year-old man and his unidentified business partner are alleged to have bought cannon- drilling equipment -- used for drilling barrels for large guns -- from German companies.

The total value of the equipment, said to have been delivered to Iraq between April 1999 and December 2000, is put at 255,000 euros/dollars.

He is also accused of offering to supply rocket-launchers, mortars and machine guns for 65,000 dollars.

loc/dlc/gk

Karadjordje

20 posted on 02/26/2003 10:07:55 AM PST by Karadjordje
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