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Historian discusses 'Gods and Generals'
Register & Bee ^ | Jan 29, 2003 | CATHY KOPLEN

Posted on 01/30/2003 8:52:27 AM PST by stainlessbanner

DANVILLE, Va. - Dr. James I. "Buddy" Robertson said Wednesday that emotion is the key element in the movie "Gods and Generals."

Robertson, a renowned Civil War historian, was the historical consultant on the Warner Bros./Ted Turner movie that features Confederate Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson as its main character.

"Gods and Generals" is an adaptation of a book written by Jeff Shaara and is the prequel to "The Killer Angels," on which the film "Gettysburg" was based.

The movie deviates from the book with a healthy dose of Jackson's character taken from Robertson's biography.

"This is the greatest Civil War movie ever made," Robertson said as he spoke to a Danville's Wednesday Club. "What college professor can say his book was made into a mega-movie? This is not a war movie like 'Gettysburg.' It is the emotion that will sell this movie."

While discussing the movie, Robertson always returned to the central character.

Robertson spoke about Jackson as one speaks of a favorite relative, with an understanding and reverence that seemed to elevate the esteem of the general in the eyes of the audience.

"I probably know Stonewall Jackson better than any person alive today," Robertson said. "Unless you understand the emotion of the Civil War, you can't understand the war."

Robertson offered a thumbnail sketch of Jackson's life - including the fact that his mother gave him up when he was 7 years old, and he worked on his uncle's farm until he was old enough to leave. Robertson also told the audience that he had gone to a family psychiatrist and asked about an unnamed person with Jackson's background in order to better understand him.

The primary points Robertson said the movie captured was Jackson's faith and his personality.

Robertson said when the first three battles of the Civil War fell on Sunday, Jackson changed the days of the week, allowing for a day of worship every week.

"When Jackson hits you with a prayer, you will not be ready for it, but you will be better for it," Robertson said. "Stephen Lange (the actor who plays Jackson) paid me one of the most supreme compliments. He was being interviewed by a reporter and the reporter asked Stephen how he could play the part so well. Stephen said, 'It was easy. I had a Bible under one arm and Bud Robertson's book under the other.'"

Robertson offered the audience insight into actor Robert Duvall, who plays Robert E. Lee. According to Robertson, Duvall took the role because he said he always wanted to play Lee in a movie.

Robertson showed the audience a picture of Duvall as Lee and commented, to much vocal agreement, that he looked very much like the Confederate general.

"I once said casting Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee (in the movie "Gettysburg") was like casting Jane Fonda as Mother Theresa," Robertson said.

The four-hour movie will be in theaters in February. A full-length DVD version - 6 1/2 hours long - will be available next year.

Contact Cathy Koplen at ckoplen@registerbee.com or at (434) 793-2311 Ext. 3043.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chancellorsville; dixie; dixielist; firstbullrun; fredericksburg; gg; godsandgenerals; jeffshaara; joshuachamberlain; manassas; movie; northernaggression; robertelee; robertson; thomasjackson

1 posted on 01/30/2003 8:52:28 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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Movie Bump
2 posted on 01/30/2003 8:52:52 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
"This is the greatest Civil War movie ever made," Robertson said as he spoke to a Danville's Wednesday Club. "What college professor can say his book was made into a mega-movie?

Humble, aren't we?

I hope that he is close to right - Gettysburg was an excellent movie, and this looks to be also. Despite Ted Turner being involved, I'll be seeing this.

3 posted on 01/30/2003 9:02:44 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: stainlessbanner
I once said casting Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee (in the movie "Gettysburg") was like casting Jane Fonda as Mother Theresa," Robertson said.

Thanks for posting this. I read this line and about fell out of my chair. Can't wait for the movie

4 posted on 01/30/2003 9:27:57 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice. Stop the revisionists)
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To: stainlessbanner
I suppose that Dr. Robertson is not one of the many communist historians that universities seem to be afflicted with these days?

I am a little unclear as to whether Robertson or Shaara wrote the book here.

Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing this, I think. How about you?
5 posted on 01/30/2003 9:29:17 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: stainlessbanner
!!!!
6 posted on 01/30/2003 9:29:30 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: stainlessbanner
I loved the Sheen quote. Gettysburg was an amazingly-good film, even if Turner was involved. Much as I hate to say it, I was even pleased with Sheen's acting int he film, but I think Robert Duvall will make a MUCH better Lee. I enjoyed the novel Gods and Generals, and if they portray Jackson as well as it sounds, including his strong religious faith, this should be something to see.
7 posted on 01/30/2003 9:35:39 AM PST by AzSteven
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To: Sam Cree
I have never read Robertson's work, but I def. look forward to seeing the movie - I hear it is quite a production.

Shaara wrote the book, I recommend reading any of his or his father's books and Jeff was consulted on the production of this movie. It would be interesting to hear what he thinks about the movie "deviating" from his work....especially Roberston's input about Jackson.

8 posted on 01/30/2003 9:39:32 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: AzSteven
if they portray Jackson as well as it sounds, including his strong religious faith

...and lemon peels.

I actually hear that Jackson and Lee are portrayed as very strong Christians, just as they were in life.

9 posted on 01/30/2003 9:41:06 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I loved Killer Angels by Shaara the elder and felt 'Gettysburg' the movie failed to measure up.

Now I've read some of Shaara the younger's work and have concluded he ain't his old man. I'm hoping the movie can improve upon his work.

10 posted on 01/30/2003 9:47:33 AM PST by skeeter (Die dulci freure)
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To: stainlessbanner
Stonewall bump!

...Longstreet, to whose sturdy breast the approach of battle seemed to bring gayety, said to Jackson: "General, do not all these multitudes frighten you?"
He replied: "We shall see very soon whether I shall not frighten them."
~Prior to the battle of Fredericksburg, as the generals looked upon the vast Union army lining up to do battle~

11 posted on 01/30/2003 10:18:29 AM PST by condi2008 (Pro Libertate)
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To: Sam Cree
Professor Robertson is a chaired professor at the VPI&SU (Virginia Tech). I would consider him to be the "dean" of historians of the War of Northern Agression. I read his book on the Stonewall Brigade over 25 years ago, so he's been around a while. He has more recently published a biography of General Jackson, which is quite good.

The younger Shaara wrote "Gods and Generals". Haven't read it, don't plan to. He continues in his father's footsteps as a hagiographer of J. L. Chamberlain, an officer for whom I have little use.

12 posted on 01/30/2003 10:22:55 AM PST by bagman
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To: stainlessbanner
I hate to say it, but Gettysburg made me gag. That movie was so bad that the universe dies a little each time the someone watches the flick. I would rather eat a hard-back edition of Killer Angels than sit through that stinker of a movie again.
13 posted on 01/30/2003 10:59:52 AM PST by SandfleaCSC (Yes, I'm bad, but you all knew that anyway)
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bump
14 posted on 01/30/2003 12:05:48 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: billbears

I once said casting Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee (in the movie "Gettysburg") was like casting Jane Fonda as Mother Theresa," Robertson said.

And I quote Bert Lahr -

"AIN'T IT THE TRUTH ... AIN'T IT THE TRUTH!!!"

15 posted on 01/30/2003 3:32:16 PM PST by Colt .45 (Non tu tibi istam praetruncari linguam largiloquam iubes?)
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To: SandfleaCSC
BUMP! I thought "Gettysburg" to be historically 'misleading' as well.
16 posted on 01/30/2003 4:48:53 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: stainlessbanner
BUMP
17 posted on 01/30/2003 5:22:53 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: stainlessbanner; thatdewd; Colt .45; SandfleaCSC; stand watie; billbears
I have been invited to attend a privite showing of Gods and Generals on 2-16-03 in Charlotte NC.

It comes out 2-21-03.

I'll let y'all know how good it is.

18 posted on 01/31/2003 12:24:26 PM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: SCDogPapa
Lucky dog. May God grant you the strength of will not to throw anything at the screen when Sen.(West-Va. Mountain Hick) Byrd prances onscreen as a Confederacy General.
19 posted on 01/31/2003 12:50:21 PM PST by SandfleaCSC (Yes, I'm bad, but you all knew that anyway)
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To: SCDogPapa
< much jealousy, my friend >

You better tell us how it is - make sure you enjoy it.

PS: Wear the 'ol butternut and gray to the preview : )

20 posted on 01/31/2003 1:26:32 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: SCDogPapa
GOOD! lucky dog! lucky dog!

free dixie NOW,sw

22 posted on 02/02/2003 10:14:49 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: SandfleaCSC
May God grant you the strength of will not to throw anything at the screen when Sen.(West-Va. Mountain Hick) Byrd prances onscreen as a Confederacy General.

With his Klan background you could hardly expect him to play a Union general, could you?

23 posted on 02/03/2003 11:25:22 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
With his Klan background you could hardly expect him to play a Union general, could you?

You're right, since everyone north of the Mason-Dixon line during the WBTS just couldn't help but hug every black person they came across just out of sheer love. Hell, General and Mrs. Grant loved black people so much, they kept a couple of them around the house full time.

This kind of troll post is usually beneath the consistent level of bias, dishonesty, and contempt in your posts. Are you feeling okay? We all are worried about you, get well now, ya hear.
24 posted on 02/03/2003 12:08:48 PM PST by SandfleaCSC (Diplomacy is the art of saying, "Nice doggie", until you can find a large enough rock.)
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To: stainlessbanner
This is one of the few movies I'm looking forward to see. Another is the final segment of LOTR.
25 posted on 02/03/2003 12:11:18 PM PST by Dante3
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To: SandfleaCSC
Hell, General and Mrs. Grant loved black people so much, they kept a couple of them around the house full time.

Why if you have such a dislike of slave owners then I can only imagine what you have to say about Davis and Jackson and the rest of the southern leadership.

26 posted on 02/03/2003 12:18:16 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
Robertson also told the audience that he had gone to a family psychiatrist and asked about an unnamed person with Jackson's background in order to better understand him.

Family Psychiatrist? Is this a shrink that specializes in families, or does Robertson's whole family need a shrink?

27 posted on 02/03/2003 12:31:18 PM PST by Ditto (Anyone who pays for a Psychiatrist needs their head examined.)
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To: SandfleaCSC
I agree. It was pretty bad. Marble statues of Lee show more life than Sheen's Lee.
28 posted on 02/03/2003 12:35:50 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: Dante3
Like all techies, I am also looking forward to the Matrix sequels. Maybe SandFlea will fill us in on his G&G preview, lucky dog!
29 posted on 02/03/2003 7:59:51 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: flying Elvis; SandfleaCSC
I have never seen all of "Gettysburg" ,,but the parts I did see,, I thought anyone could have done a better job than Sheen.
30 posted on 02/04/2003 6:51:30 AM PST by SCDogPapa
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To: SCDogPapa; stainlessbanner; thatdewd; Colt .45; SandfleaCSC; stand watie; billbears
I told you I would give you a report, so here it is.

Gentlemen,,it's a must see movie!!!! I am no movie critic and will not attempt to be one. It's a very good movie and well worth your time and money to go see. It was well worth the 300 mile round trip and the 14 hours I spent Sunday the 16th to go to Charlotte NC to view this movie. The private showing was aranged by the MAJ. EGBERT A. ROSS Camp 1423 SCV of Charlotte NC. Be warned, it is a long movie, about 4 hours. I suggest that you see it at your earliest opportunity!!!!!!

You Gotta See This Movie!
By Chuck Baldwin
February 18, 2003

This Friday, February 21, 2003, a blockbuster movie produced by Ron Maxwell will debut in theaters across America. It is titled Gods And Generals, and it is one movie you must go see!

Gods And Generals is the second of a movie trilogy by Maxwell about the War Between the States. Gettysburg was the first, and there is yet one more in the works.

Gods And Generals could be the most influential and powerful movie to be released since Braveheart. It has the potential to change the hearts, minds, and attitudes of millions of people who disdain the Old Confederacy, who misunderstand Southern slavery, and who hold Christianity in contempt.

The film portrays the life and battlefield campaigns of Lt. General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson. Any truthful depiction of General Jackson must include his deep Christian convictions. This movie captures those convictions in great detail. In fact, Christianity permeates this movie.

One of Jackson's premier biographers, James "Bud" Robertson, was on hand throughout the filming to help insure the movie's historical accuracy. He said Gods And Generals is "the greatest Civil War movie I have ever seen, and I have seen them all."

Historian Bill Kauffman said, "Gods and Generals is not only the finest movie ever made about the Civil War, it is also the best American historical film. Period."

The movie is produced by Ted Turner Pictures (believe it or not) and was filmed in and around Sharpsburg, Maryland, the site of the Antietam Battlefield, and on actual historical locations in Virginia and West Virginia. Veteran actor Robert Duvall plays Robert E. Lee and Stephen Lang plays Jackson. You will also see several actors from the movie Gettysburg reprise their roles in this film. New characters introduced in Gods And Generals are "Stonewall" Jackson, Mary Anna Morrison Jackson, Myra Hancock, and Fanny Chamberlain. The film is rated PG-13 for battlefield violence.

I encourage all my readers to take advantage of this opportunity to watch a rare, rich, and truly remarkable film. Go see Gods And Generals!
© Chuck Baldwin
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31 posted on 02/18/2003 5:01:19 AM PST by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SCDogPapa
Based on your recommendation, I'll put this movie on my 'must see' list.
32 posted on 02/18/2003 11:01:58 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: SCDogPapa
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

free the southland,sw

33 posted on 02/19/2003 8:15:53 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: SCDogPapa
Saw it last night. The Victorian pacing and manners -- reproduced here with considerable effort and attention to detail including, I suspect, some recourse to the principals' letters, won't go down with the average audience.

But then, we're decadent -- not they.

More comments later -- I'm trying to dig up on an old thread which Blair it was who communicated President Lincoln's offer of the command of the Union Army to Colonel Lee. That episode is portrayed here, with a couple of digs at Blair, but it also manages to make Lee look like a traitor, by collapsing into seconds the four or five days that elapsed before he was presented to the Virginia secession convention by Governor Letcher; and it doesn't show at all when he tendered his resignation, so that it looks as if he went to the secession convention while still in the Army, in uniform.

For the Union side, Jeff Daniels and Brian Mallon return as Chamberlain and Winfield Scott Hancock, and the actors portraying Chamberlain's brother and first sergeant (Kevin Conway) are also back. The top Confederate generals are portrayed by different actors, but many of the characters in the next rank are played by the same actors as before. Lang, who plays Jackson, was Pickett in Gettysburg, for instance, but the actors playing John B. Hood, E. Porter Alexander, Kemper, Garnett, Trimble, and the spy Harrison are all back.

And Francis P. Blair was the person in question.

34 posted on 02/22/2003 4:07:02 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Oh, and keep your eyes peeled -- John Wilkes Booth shows up most of the way through the film. I remember thinking, who is this guy? Well guess who, dude.

They got me. Didn't twig until I saw the credits. Forewarned, you may do better.

35 posted on 02/22/2003 4:09:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: flying Elvis; SandfleaCSC
I agree. It was pretty bad. Marble statues of Lee show more life than Sheen's Lee.

Here's a flash: Robert Duvall is Robert E. Lee. Dammit, he did it again. The man's a chameleon.

"Gennulmen, these deplo'ments ahh sound." So's your acting, Mr. Duvall.

36 posted on 02/22/2003 4:12:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Non-Sequitur
"bump"

Don't you have anything better to do?

37 posted on 02/22/2003 4:17:18 PM PST by groanup
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To: SCDogPapa
Just got back from the cineplex where " Gods and Gererals" is playing in one theatre out of sixteen. The following is a freeper alert! Go see this movie. It is a must see for anyone with a love of this country in they're hearts. I have to think very hard to come up with an acting job as great as delivered by Stephen Lang. The man is an acting genius. The role of Stonewall Jackson should deliver an Acandemy Award to Mr. Lang, but we all know that that won't happen. Please, don't believe the bad reviews. This film is true genius. I feel that I'm a better person for sitting in the dark for the past four hours. It's not just blood and guts, of which it has it's fair share, but a beautiful depiction of the love of God and Country. The God of their prayers was the same God. Some prayed for the Union. Some prayed for Virginia and the Confederacy.
38 posted on 02/22/2003 4:42:28 PM PST by mict42
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To: mict42; lentulusgracchus
Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad y'all liked it. I know all that see this movie won't like it, but those that know and understand truth when they see it will.
39 posted on 02/23/2003 6:51:52 AM PST by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SCDogPapa
For what it's worth, the note at the end of the film to the effect that there is a third and final film in the works, Last Full Measure, suggests that we might get more of a Union POV in the last film. Gettysburg was pretty well balanced, and I suspect that all the exposition of the Southern POV through Jackson's and Lee's speeches in G's & G's may be balanced by more Unionist sentiments later, as witness the title's reference, IIRC, to a Lincoln speech.
40 posted on 02/24/2003 2:06:38 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: mict42; SCDogPapa
I have to think very hard to come up with an acting job as great as delivered by Stephen Lang. The man is an acting genius.

On the contrary, I think Lang did a good job of acting, and of portraying something of Jackson, but I don't think he captured his charisma, which was what Jackson mostly was -- the man was, in all accounts I've heard or read about him, a walking bundle of charisma, even more so than Robert E. Lee.

The problem with G's & G's is that they didn't give both the Jackson and Lee roles to Robert Duvall -- the only man on the set who could have mastered either. The gave him Lee. I've asked my movie-maven cousin whom he would have cast as Stonewall Jackson, and I await his reply. Other than Duvall, I can't think of a modern actor who could handle that role. I just can't.

Someone commented about Martin Sheen as Lee in Gettysburg.....yes, I'd have to agree. The man is so turgid with liberal brain-fat that he couldn't act Bobby Lee if he were inspirited with the general's own ghost. It was a real disappointment, almost as bad as Tom Berenger and what my cousin noticed was a terrible false beard as General Longstreet.

41 posted on 02/24/2003 2:16:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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