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Ok Virginians, get out and email/fax/call these Senators and tell them that you do NOT support SB698. This is doubly important if you live in any of these Senators' districts. SB698 will require that vendors who are exhibitors, but who are not selling guns, to be licensed to deal. Further it makes the gun show promoter liable for transactions that occur in the parking lot, which in many cases is out of their control as the parking area can serve many businesses.

I will be in Richmond on the 20th to do my own lobbying.

1 posted on 01/13/2003 7:41:38 PM PST by gieriscm
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2 posted on 01/13/2003 7:56:03 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BCR #226
Ping!
3 posted on 01/13/2003 7:58:08 PM PST by gieriscm
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To: *bang_list
For comment and discussion
4 posted on 01/13/2003 8:16:53 PM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: gieriscm
SB698 will require that vendors who are exhibitors, but who are not selling guns, to be licensed to deal.

I remember anti-gunners complaining that less than half of the sellers at a gun show had FFL's. What they neglected was that less than half of the sellers were actually selling guns (most were selling books, magazines, knives, clothing, optics, camping gear, food, or non-gun items).

5 posted on 01/13/2003 8:45:06 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: gieriscm
"Nationwide, gun shows have been cited as the second largest source of crime guns."

BZZZZT!! WRONG!!!


Dept. of Justice; Firearm Use by Offender - Table 8
FACTS about the "Gunshow Loop-Hole" nonsense:

1991: Source of guns used in crimes by State prison inmates nationwide -
* 40.8% from street source (drug dealer, theft, blackmarket).
* 33.8% from family or friend.
* 18.9% from retail store or pawnshop.
* 4.6% from other source
* 0.6% from gunshows.

1997: Source of guns used in crimes by State prison inmates nationwide -
* 39.2% from street source (drug dealer, theft, blackmarket).
* 39.6% from family or friend.
* 12.1% from retail store or pawnshop.
* 7.4% from "other" source
* 0.7% from gunshows.

* * * Guns used in crimes are very rarely ever obtained by the criminal through gunshows.

This is the most recent data available from the U.S. Dept. of Justice, dated November, 2001 and revised on 2/04/02.

I hope someone in Virginia can use real FACTS like this against the LIES being spread by the anti-gun crowd.
6 posted on 01/13/2003 8:48:24 PM PST by The_Macallan
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To: gieriscm
From the article: "Three of the five states with the highest number of gun shows, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and California, passed this legislation years ago and their gun shows continue and prosper."

What lies. The county I live in passed an ordinance outlawing gun shows at our county fairgrounds and their hasn't been a gun show there since. I have to travel sixty miles plus to attend a gun show.

8 posted on 01/13/2003 9:42:35 PM PST by William Tell
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To: gieriscm
BTT PING!
10 posted on 01/14/2003 6:29:42 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: gieriscm; Angelwood; AppyPappy; BillF; bmwcyle; BrucefromMtVernon; GunsareOK; BufordP; ironman; ...
A little birdie asked me to PING! Virginia's Freepers to this thread, and I'm happy to oblige.

If you want off (or on) the VA PING! list, please FReepmail me.

11 posted on 01/14/2003 1:11:48 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: gieriscm
Thanks for the heads up. I read somewhere in the past week where Gov. Warner signed the legislation allowing guns in state parks for concealed carry permit holders. I'm surprised about that. The Sarah Brady's of the world are not amused. They still think one should use pepper spray to fend off a bear or other adversary.

Related threads:
Keep guns out of state parks

Virginia: Guns in State Parks

Guns in Virginia state parks (Million Brain-Dead Moms Alert)

13 posted on 01/14/2003 3:46:49 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: CapandBall
Ping
17 posted on 01/15/2003 12:56:46 PM PST by m1911
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To: gieriscm
Thanks to all who responded! SB698 died in committee.
18 posted on 01/16/2003 8:04:57 PM PST by gieriscm
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