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Mistake Ends Woman's Wish To Donate Body To Science
The KCRA Channel ^ | 1/8/03

Posted on 01/08/2003 7:06:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Mistake Ends Woman's Wish To Donate Body To Science

Grandmother's Body Accidentally Embalmed

POSTED: 4:35 p.m. PST January 8, 2003 UPDATED: 4:45 p.m. PST January 8, 2003

ELK GROVE, Calif. -- An Elk Grove family who had been grieving over its grandmother's death are now grieving over the fact that her body will not be able to be used the way she wanted it to be.

On Jan. 2, surrounded by her family, 82-year-old Luz Cara del Castillo died peacefully. Her family says that she didn't want a funeral. She had made plans to have her body donated to science. But the day after she died, her family got a phone call that there was a problem.

"She said the doctor called and said something went wrong with my mom. And I said, 'what could go wrong? She's dead.' She says 'no, they made a mistake,'" said del Castillo's granddaughter, Cinthya Ontiveros.

The Sacramento funeral home had accidentally embalmed the body, making it ineligible for donation. The family claims the funeral home was apologetic at first, but then got defensive.

"He was very standoffish. He wasn't concerned about our feelings, about what happened. You could tell he was being aggressive and gruff about the whole issue. He was there to more or less intimidate us," said del Castillo's grandson, Sergio Castillo.

The family claims that the funeral home initially offered to pay for an elaborate service, but that the grandchildren declined that offer, asking for an amount money equal to the service, estimated at $5,000, to be spent on a donation to education. The family said that by doing that their grandmother's wishes would still be honored in some small part.

The family claims the home agreed then backed away from the offer.

Thompson Funeral Home's director, Ladonna Olden, said that when she met with the family, she made no promises to make a large cash donation. Olden showed KCRA 3 notes from her meeting with the family that showed that she had agreed to make two charitable donations for smaller amounts -- two $1,000 donations.

The director says that the home offered to cover all costs to have del Castillo cremated and placed in a local cemetery.

"It was an unfortunate mistake that was made here. I've offered to work with the family and have proposed a dignified burial for their grandmother," Olden said.

"It's not how much you spend on my grandma; it's how much you spend on the donation. My grandmother's purpose was to be donated to science," Ontiveros said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: bodydonor; funeral; lastwish

1 posted on 01/08/2003 7:06:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 01/08/2003 7:07:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Elderly Woman Stiff'd by Funeral Snafu)
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To: NormsRevenge
Why was a funeral home even involved ? Who gave them any authorization to do what they did ? Then they get defensive about it ?

Good Grief !
3 posted on 01/08/2003 7:11:59 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: NormsRevenge
I wouldn't be caught dead in that place !! (end sarcasm)
4 posted on 01/08/2003 7:14:14 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: stylin19a
My parents have done the same thing.

My father died 2 years ago. The funeral homes are the folks who actually pick up the body.

You need to notify them at that time of the deceased's wishes, so they won't procede as usual.
6 posted on 01/08/2003 7:23:58 PM PST by opbuzz
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To: NormsRevenge
"It's not how much you spend on my grandma; it's how much you spend on the donation. My grandmother's purpose was to be donated to science," Ontiveros said.

Donated to science means having your naked corpse dissected and gutted by a bunch of pimple-faced liberal med students. I'd rather they fed my corpse to the hogs.

7 posted on 01/08/2003 7:25:30 PM PST by Godebert
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Perhaps she had a unique medical condition and wanted to aid research to find a cure for it.
8 posted on 01/08/2003 7:35:17 PM PST by tubebender
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To: opbuzz
That makes sense....thanx.
9 posted on 01/08/2003 7:40:43 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: stylin19a
"Why was a funeral home even involved ?"

When my mother died 12 years ago, she wanted her body to be given to the University of Rochester. She never had any life insurance, and she thought that by leaving her body to science, she wouldn't be a burden on her children. My sister ended up paying the funeral parlor to pick up her body from the hospital and preparing it for the college's medical division. Whatever that incurred, it was required by law as I remember. It was already agreed to, that her body would be returned to us once they were done with it, so she could be buried next to my father. A year and a half later, her ashes were returned to us and she was placed in the ground next to my Dad. It wasn't a pleasant experience knowing that your mother's body was off somewhere being used (or abused) by medical students. It all would have been so much easier if she had just let us cremate her right after her death and then put her to rest. When I finally get to see her again, I'm going to tell her so ;-)

10 posted on 01/08/2003 7:58:38 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Godebert
Donated to science means having your naked corpse dissected and gutted by a bunch of pimple-faced liberal med students. I'd rather they fed my corpse to the hogs.

I guess surgeons can just practice on plastic people and just hope that they get it right. Personally I would prefer to have my doctor trained on a donated body.

11 posted on 01/08/2003 8:01:48 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Try thinking, it works)
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To: tubebender
Perhaps she had a unique medical condition and wanted to aid research to find a cure for it.

That is the case with my mother. She is allergic to everything except rice and poodles.

She has to take shots to be able to eat other foods besides rice, and she will never be able to have a pet other than a poodle.

She has a living will, and is donating her body to science; so they can try to find a permanent cure for the allergies.

12 posted on 01/08/2003 8:04:44 PM PST by trussell
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To: Godebert
A local paper, the Asbury Park Press, did a series on the med students taking the course at the University of Medicine and Dentistry in Newark(NJ)when they dissected a human body.

The students had a profound respect for the donor, and that was reinforced by the instructor of the course.

By dissecting a real body, these students learned much more than they could any other way.

At the end of the course, many had a service over "their" body(they said they become very attached to this person, now gone, who gave their body to be dissected) to say, in their own way, thanks to this person.

It was a surprise to me to see the amount of respect they showed to the body, and for the person that once was. I would have thought the complete opposite would have taken place.

13 posted on 01/08/2003 9:00:26 PM PST by exit82
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To: exit82
keep in mind that those students were reported on by a paper. If there were no reporters around, would they still treat the dead with respect?
14 posted on 01/08/2003 9:49:24 PM PST by arielb
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To: arielb
The paper in question was not local to the hospital/teaching university. There was no reason to expect the behavior to be modified by the reporter's presence. The series took place over a few months.

The students themselves said that they realized that the donor was person--someone's grandfather, someone's wife, someone's mother, and they treated the body with respect.

The reporter's presence, to me, was not sufficient enough to change their behavior radically. The attitude was professional, not Animal House--and I was happy to see it.
15 posted on 01/08/2003 10:16:32 PM PST by exit82
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