Feds Fixing 'Southern Bias' At U.S. Parks

World Net Daily ^ | December 22, 2002 | WND

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for that phone number.

[Movemout]

"Our nation is only a couple of rewrites away from having never existed. "

Boy oh boy, did you ever hit the nail on the head so squarely? There is another recent thread floating around about factual errors in NYC public school textbooks. The couple of rewrites are in progress. Museums as instruments of propaganda, how Orwellian.

[DoughtyOne]

I think the biggest con that was every perpetrated was the telling of Lincoln's execution of the civil war. When you get right down to it, this guy has a whole lot to answer for. It was late in life before it every occured to me to start challenging my perceptions of the Civil War. I'm not expert on it by any means, but I don't believe he had the right to order US troops into the south. I'm open to discussion on the issue, but I do have grave concerns.

[Movemout]

As you know, the issue has been debated ad nauseum on FR. It is clear that many of the arguements, for and against, are based in emotions. But FWIW I agree with you. George Washington may have been the father of our nation but Lincoln is the father of our bloated self serving federal government.

[DoughtyOne]

Well he certainly was the death knell to state's rights. So at least in that sense, the federal bohemith was born under his tenure.

[Adder]

People care...just look at these posts! But the problem is that those in charge are the ones making the changes and we ARE limited in what we can say ...or force them to say. I expect that when I go onto a battlefield, I will get the story of the battle...not a lot of revisionist mumbo-jumbo panned from the latest poll of what's correct to say. Or someone's OPINION of the greater war. This version that is emerging is vindictive and an indoctrination in how to think and what is the correct version to tell.
Can you imagine the results of this teaching on our young people[coupled with all of the other misguided garbage that passes for education in this country]?
I have been to Gettysburg a couple of times and it WAS the highwater mark of the Confederacy. They want to speculate, they can, as another poster pointed out, describe how the battle was lost by the Confederacy instead of being won by the North. Wouldn't that burn a few biscuits!
It is totally fair to describe the so-called Southern talking points. Many DID fight for the right of the states to seceede. The South WAS overwhelmed by the superior North's technology and supplies. The shaky leg of that triumvirate is that the South was preserving slavery and that it was benign, which it certainly was not.
This revisionism is ridiculous! It simply must be stopped.
The comment on the museum, however, is unfortunately mostly correct. It was a jumble without direction in my opinion. That certainly could stand some renovation and reinterpretation.

[Movemout]

"Well he certainly was the death knell to state's rights. So at least in that sense, the federal bohemith was born under his tenure. "

Behemoth is an apt description. The death of states rights created a vacuum. Politicians abhor a vacuum.

[Pushi]

Lincoln was also a sick man--as in McCain-type sick.

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[Pushi]

In 1810, one tenth of the people in New York were slaves.

[Liberal Classic]

they concluded Gettysburg's interpretive programs had a "pervasive southern sympathy."

We can't have any of that, now can we? Tsk tsk.

[Pushi]

And, I have been in slave quarters in Newport, RI. As a matter of fact, Newport was a big slave trading community. But, the Yankees found out that slaves weren't profitable to use--only to sell. Most slaves were first generation from Africa and basically untrainable for manufacturing jobs. Also, the cold climate made them prone to diseases to which they had not developed an immunity. Many slaves died in the North.

[Still Thinking]

I assume that since the greater historical picture is soooo important to them, that they'll devote a lot of space to Lincoln's unconstitutional rape of states rights and his contribution to birth of the "federal" monster with which we must now contend. < sarcasm off >

[Bonaparte]

"And, I have been in slave quarters in Newport, RI."

As a visitor, I presume. ;-)

Great info in both your posts! Northern involvement in slavery has been carefully suppressed in public school (and college) American history texts, as has the extreme racial prejudice infecting most Union troops and many of their officers during the war. The moral aspect of slavery was simply a non-issue among the great majority of Yankees, right through the war. Only a fringe element consisting mostly of misfits and lunatics like William Lloyd Garrison and John Brown were fixated on it. Only when it became economically and politically advantageous to northern business and to Radicals in Congress, did it suddenly assume prominence as a "burning social issue." Have you ever read the text of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation? As carefully worded cop-outs go, it is a masterpiece! LOL!

[Ohioan]

I am glad that you liked the link. There are a number of other articles at my web site, which may have some benefit in this fight. Let me give you just one more, at this point--as the rest are easily linkable from the site:

How To Recognize The Bigot In The Argument.

Keep fighting for the truth. It is ultimately, the real issue.

William Flax

[billbears]

we must remember that the Yankees were the real agressors and that it should have been possible for the two nations to go their separate ways, from the Confederate perspective without hostilities.

Of course it should have been obvious, but I imagine you already know that 'Empire above all' forgives everything. The views of dead socialists such as Sandburg and Dubois are apparently held in much higher regard than factual historians as DiLorenzo and Adams. Can't have anyone sullying the name of the northern tyrant lincoln with such silly things as facts now can we? :)

[billbears]

Museums as instruments of propaganda, how Orwellian.

I hate to say it but it shouldn't suprise you. The school systems have been doing this for oh about 130 years. I've looked at NC's 'lesson plans' for middle and high school (relatives in teaching here in NC) and there is nowhere possible in the agenda to actually post truth about the War of Northern Aggression. If anything it is just a praise and worship plan on how to raise lincoln to sainthood

I imagine most of the other states have the same agenda. Much easier to teach exactly what you're supposed to instead of rock the boat with the truth. The only reason the park system is doing it now is to present a solid wall of lincoln worship to the school classes. We can't be confusing young minds with such words as Constitution, states' rights, federal power limits, and rule of law now can we?