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Feds Fixing 'Southern Bias' At U.S. Parks
World Net Daily ^ | December 22, 2002 | WND

Posted on 12/22/2002 3:40:59 PM PST by joesnuffy

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To: nomorecameljocks
"...it might well have been a much different ..."

Not a chance, I'm afraid. The Confederate economy was in complete disarray. So was Davis' government. Grant now controlled the Mississippi. The blockade was killing them and their last chance to get recognition/assistance from Europe was gone. These people couldn't feed themselves or put shoes on their soldiers' feet. It was just a matter of time.

21 posted on 12/22/2002 4:40:27 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: joesnuffy
Earlier discussion here.
22 posted on 12/22/2002 4:41:27 PM PST by Petronski
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To: DoughtyOne
You are wasting your breath on the Rush Limbaugh-like "optimists" who insist we be patient with baby steps toward the "right" without ever noticing that we are taking three steps back for every step forward. They absolutely will not face the reality of the situation. To them, these kinds of issues are irrelevent, or worse, they make like a leftist and accuse you of "racism".

But you cannot fix a problem if you do not admit to yourself that you have a problem. That job of the Bushbots and the Rushbots is to make sure as many "conswervatives" as possible do not realize there is a problem and do not face the problem square in the face.

That's why people like Rush burble on and on about "optimism" and "the American way", because it is a smokescreen for their own cowardice. As Spengler observed, in certain situations, optimism is cowardice.

23 posted on 12/22/2002 4:44:18 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: DoughtyOne
No; I have not noticed 1984 on cable. I shall add it to my TiVo wishlist; I don't think I have seen the movie.
24 posted on 12/22/2002 4:45:32 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: DoughtyOne

What pisses me off is the people (often the same people you refer to) who excoriate others for being "one issue" (which is just code for "social issues") when they, themselves would happily oppose a candidate who stepped on their favorite issue.

For example, the tax cutters might not give a hoot about the borders or abortion, but the "single issue" of an 80% tax bracket would make them howl in disgust.

I guess the social conservatives they run down are duty bound to drag themselves to the polls and vote for the candidate of their choice.

They somehow "owe" their votes to the GOP, as opposed to the GOP owing it's existance to the voters.

25 posted on 12/22/2002 4:46:04 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: joesnuffy
"We want to change the perception so that Gettysburg becomes known internationally as the place of a 'new rebirth of freedom

bwhahahahahahah!

War is Peace.
Ignorance is strength.

26 posted on 12/22/2002 4:54:21 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
I think Rush is much more savey than he gets credit for. Even the slightest mention of possible problems spurs the party faithful to call for his lynching.

Frankly I don't know what it will take for the coolaide drinkers to fathom reality. When it comes to second comings, there's only so much tollerance for outside opinions. If Rush were to tell it like it is, and I think he recognizes what it is, he'd lose 75% of his audience in a heartbeat. What would that gain him or us? I just don't know.

We're in a state of limbo right now, if those who consider themselves to be conservatives but have lost their way, don't wake up soon, it won't matter who exposes truth. I believe that is evidenced by Rush's inability to reveal truth. I've seen him try. Folks just will not listen.

Somewhere around six months ago Rush aired some criticisms. It took about ten minutes before people were comparing him to Lanny Davis or James Carville. Oh yes, Rush had lost his way...

Well, we can hope for enlightenment. I'm not holding my breath. Even those who have seen the light still grasp at any straw to remain a party loyalist in the face of truth. And you know what, they'll even admit it.

27 posted on 12/22/2002 4:55:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
They're fixing Southern Bias all right.

They're instilling it forever by inserting propaganda.
28 posted on 12/22/2002 4:57:29 PM PST by Maelstrom
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To: nomorecameljocks
nomorecameljocks signed up 2002-11-17.

You Sir, are either awfully stupid or a DU disrupter.

29 posted on 12/22/2002 5:01:01 PM PST by carpio
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To: Jhoffa_
If someone had told me in 1991, that within five years I'd be so p'd off at the Republican party, that I'd decide to change my party affiliation, I'd have laughed at them.  In 1996 I decided to change and in 2000 I followed through.

This was a slow process for me.  I watched the party drift left, even to the point that they would use the left's tactic of racial politics against my candidate, Pat Buchanan.  In 1996 I still voted for Dole and wound up feeling dirty because of it.  I swore I'd never cast a vote I'd feel dirty for, again.  I won't.

I believe the cool-aide drinkers are going through the same process I did, only a decade later.  Hopefully it won't take them so long to react.

There's the charges that we're "one issue" or "have never been a true Republican anyway".  I laugh them off.  I know what I have been.  I still defend Nixon to this day.  Don't tell me I'm not a long time Republican.

When you say the GOP owes it's existance to the voters, you're absolutely right.  Instead they treat their voters like they're ignorant fools needing to be led around by a nose-ring.  It's insulting.  It's the best way I know to pulverize the grass roots support.

Playing the go-along to get-along game with the Democrats is a losing strategy.  You can hold every power center of government and still lose.  This thread gives an accounting of one of the ways this takes place.  Another thread on the forum talks about compromise and how the Senate can't operate without it.  These two methods give the Democrats all the support they need to run circles around the right.  They have been and will continue to do so as long as our team plays by the Democrat and media's rules it can't possibly win under.

30 posted on 12/22/2002 5:11:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Headline should read:

U.S. Park Service Finally Succumbs to PC Crowd

31 posted on 12/22/2002 5:12:22 PM PST by lawdog
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To: Maelstrom
That's right. Now tell me why this isn't stopped. The only reason is because we cave at every charge from the left. That's why Trent should have stayed. Now we can't object to anything the left does. We've admitted we're racists and have to prove otherwise in perpetuity. HUGE MISTAKE!
32 posted on 12/22/2002 5:13:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: joesnuffy
There needs to be a collective verbal and written outrage visited upon the National Park Service. We should boycott the National Battlefield Parks for their rejection of true history. I will never again visit such places obviously run now by anti-American liars. Such outrage against the Smithsonian's pro-Japanese Hiroshima exhibit, did turn the tide. These bastards should be thrown in jail for stealing the history of America.
33 posted on 12/22/2002 5:14:00 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: lawdog
This is a process that has been taking place for a long time. The biosphere preserves usher in this nonsense. The UN gives guidelines on how our institutions will be run, and we suck it up like it was nectar of the gods. I'd be willing to bet even money that the UN suggested this new interpretation in the quest for global enlightenment.
34 posted on 12/22/2002 5:15:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: carpio
That was rude! BTW what's a DU disrupter-Ducks Unlimited?

As to the South's chances following a victory at Gettysberg advancing to isolate Washington could have and probably would have led to a negotiated settlement. A better chance for a negotiated settlement was prior to Antietam a year previous which was unfortunately lost.
Agreed, a most horrible war, perhaps the worst ever however, we must remember that the Yankees were the real agressors and that it should have been possible for the two nations to go their separate ways, from the Confederate perspective without hostilities.
As to the relationship of emancipation to the war, remember the 1862 emancipation proclamation(sp) only applied to "those states in rebellion"(where it had no effect) leaving Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky and Missouri as slave states still in the union. A strange situation if old honest Abe was really serious about freeing slaves. Abe also suspended the right of habeus corpus, arresting and holding without charges, the secessionist governor of Maryland and a significat number of influential secessionist legislators in the border states.

History is sometimes unkind to the revisonists, but it is history. Deal with it and become more informed before calling someone stupid.
35 posted on 12/22/2002 5:25:40 PM PST by nomorecameljocks
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To: joesnuffy
I'll have to admit to one change which is a long time coming.

Go to a tour of a Plantation and the tour guide will take you to the "Servant's" Quarters.

What kind of BS propaganda is that?
36 posted on 12/22/2002 5:40:45 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL!

That's funny.. Everytime I see someone yelling "Nazi" about Pat around here, I always ask them why they are saying it and if they can give me a link to support it.

Then, after 15 minutes of them calling me a pitchforker and a "Nazi" and on and on and on they finally believe me when I tell them I was not a Buchannan supporter & didn't vote for him, but am just curious why they would say such a thing.

Then they clam up and that's the last I hear of it.. Till I see them on another thread screaming "Nazi" some more..

Thus far, on one has been able to answer this for me.. and I have been asking consistantly for the last several years.

37 posted on 12/22/2002 5:46:15 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Shooter 2.5
...the "Servant's" Quarters.

LOL! Well, at least they don't call it the "Guest Rooms" (for our visiting friends from Africa who have been so helpful during their stay).

38 posted on 12/22/2002 6:22:29 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: DoughtyOne
Yes, the revisionists revise the revisions. Soon any similariaty to what really happened will be purely coincidental.
39 posted on 12/22/2002 6:26:09 PM PST by Pushi
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
I recently bought a copy of a Unites States history written in about 1875 at an antique book store. I haven't gotten around to reading it yet, but I think it will be particularly interesting to read about the War of Northern Agression and what led up to it.
40 posted on 12/22/2002 6:32:13 PM PST by Pushi
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