NUNN ANNOUNCES FOR GOVERNOR! NAMES LT. GUV CANDIDATE

12/16/2002

[EastKyRepublican]

Well, look...McConnell opposes an amendment to protect the American flag from being desecrated. He sides with the ACLU. He's soft on China and receives and has received large cash donations from those linked to the Communist Chinese Government, the Chinese Military and front companies for the military/government. These contributors include John Huang and Maria Hsia--two high profile contributors to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, who were exposed for their links to the communists, that's on McConnell's finance reports (also do a search on the threads). So, I question his loyalty and his conservative credentials quite often, because of these two things. There are others. He's an power-hungry opportunist. He's hands are all over this Lott situation.

Plus, Patton could have been beaten in 1999, albeit not by Peppy Martin. But, to her credit, she carried 8 solid Democratic counties in Eastern Kentucky and struck a hard blow to him in his home county of Pike. Heck, they couldn't even pay people to vote for him was the joke.

If Patton had been opposed by a strong Republican, then he would have gone down then. Unions were mad and would have deserted him. Educators/High education/U.K. Alumni were mad over what he did with education reform. He'd lost that. He was very weak, but McConnell saved him and has cost the state dearly because of it. Look at the embarrasment and the deficits we're facing now because of Patton's second term.

Clearly, McConnell sold out the Republican Party to ink a deal with good ol' Paul to cover his ass in 2002. Why do you think Patton encouraged a left-wing Weinberg and not a conservative Owens? The deal, the deal. It's a running joke about how McConnell sold out the GOP for his own devices.

I, for one, wish to be rid of him. He's a jerk. His politics stinks. He's a sell out to his own Party and I hope to one day cast the vote in an election where he's beaten and run out of office and out of Kentucky for good.

[Theodore R.]

Did you know that McConnell is really the "third senator from AL"? I know he was born in AL. When did he move to Louisville? People up there think he is the symbol of the KY spirit. Is Louie Nunn still living; I know his wife died a few years ago. If he is still living, doesn't he have some kind of "mansion"? Is it in Glasgow or where?

[Theodore R.]

Did you know that McConnell is really the "third senator from AL"? I know he was born in AL. When did he move to Louisville? People up there think he is the symbol of the KY spirit. Is Louie Nunn still living; I know his wife died a few years ago. If he is still living, doesn't he have some kind of "mansion"? Is it in Glasgow or where?

[the irate magistrate]

The mansion is in Versailles. It's on the old Abercrombie estate, the Pin Oak stud farm.

The fine old gentleman and statesman Louie B Nunn is politically not like his son. Steve Nunn votes pro-tax and is a social liberal, although he has the warm demeanor of his father, Louie B Nunn.

[the irate magistrate]

bump

[the irate magistrate]

you are mostly correct my friend.

[Theodore R.]

I did not know that Steve Nunn is a liberal Republican. I was under the impression that he was to the right of Congressman Fletcher. So Fletcher is the conservative choice in KY in 2003, right? Ironically, Louie B. Nunn narrowly won his 1967 primary over a liberal Republican, Marlow W. Cook, who later became a senator and thereafter supported Democrats for office.

[RonPaulLives]

So Fletcher is the conservative choice in KY in 2003, right?

No, as you and I discussed earlier on this thread, Virgil Moore is THE conservative choice in KY in 2003.

[EastKyRepublican]

Nunn has shown himself to be a moderate, but in his announcement last Thursday he stated unequivocally that he would support substantial tax reform to ease the burden on the working poor, the middle and upper classes, as well as corporations. One of his major pieces of legislation would be to eliminate the Personal Service Contracts, which is basically legalized graft for state contractors. He also favors major reforms to health insurance to allow for more competition among current and additional providers. These are conservative positions. Also, while he has voted pro-life in years past, he has proclaimed himself pro-life and says he will support the anti-abortion positions. His running mate his staunchly pro-life, Bob Heleringer. Both have the ability to reach across the aisle to Dems, in order to move Kentucky forward.

[EastKyRepublican]

thank you. I'm sick of all this pandering to McConnell. He helped do Lott on the chance that the White House would give him the nod to be Majority Leader. But, they've made their choice clear...McConnell dream of being on the ticket as VEEP will never happen and neither will his dream of being president. He doesn't have the right mix to make it happen, from his wife to the kids.

[Theodore R.]

Actually, RonPaulLives, I did not understand that Virgil Moore is the conservative choice. Please explain why you support him. I would think Fletcher is the prohibitive primary favorite, for GOP voters in nearly every state tend to go with the establishment-endorsed candidates. They think these are the candidates more likely to win over the Democrats; so they do as they are dutifully told. CA's Simon was an obvious exception to that trend, however.

[the irate magistrate]

Fletcher is the RINOs' choice and the hand-picked choice of the opportunist liberal, McConnell.

Fletcher in many ways is the most liberal of all the seven candidates.

The only constitutionalist liberty-minded conservative in the race is the well regarded Senator Virgil Moore from Lietchfield.

His message is clearly on the side of conservative issues. He has the voting record to prove it. The others' prove most liberal by their actions and voting records.

Sen Moore is a highly decorated Viet Nam veteran that retired as a leutenant colonel with distinction and has proven to be an exemplary leader many times over since then.

[the irate magistrate]

Nunn and Helringer both have managed to score perfect zero scores on the Ky Taxpayer's United last score card (the group is headed by Dr Rand Paul, the Ky resident son of Congressman Ron Paul (R) TX).

Both of them broke their no-tax pledge in 2000 and they also signed onto big spending bills as set forth by the Democrats in the legislature.

They consistantly have promoted expansion of more and bigger government.

They have both voted weak positions on pro-life and 2nd amendment issues as well at times.

Kentucky is nearly strangling on big intrusive government now. How can we stand any more of it?

I'm sure if a liberal middle of the road GOP candidate is presented to the majority registration of Democrat voters next Fall they will just simply choose the real socialist, that being the Democrat.

[Theodore R.]

Leitchfield is in the western part of KY, and I am surprised that there is a Republican state senator from that formerly Democrat bastion, loyal to such folk as Wendell Ford and the late William Natcher. I would think that Senator Moore will have difficulty getting his name known among the state's voters. And GOP voters in KY go with the party leadership -- choosing Ford over Reagan in 1976, for instance. Has the party ever nominated anyone that McConnell opposed?

[the irate magistrate]

The PEOPLE of Kentucky pick the candidates for office don't you see, not the weasel McConnell or, his shills in the Paety.

That's why there is a primary election.

The party organization is a joke.

McConnell is not the concern.

So called name recognition is a ruse in many situations.

Public excitement starts with public news coverage and public debate on the issues among registered Republicans.

[Theodore R.]

Of course the people determine the gubernatorial nomination, but most voters do not participate in primaries. Therefore, the establishment choice is usually ratified in primaries with little fanfare. That is all I was saying. In LA last month the "establishment" choice was Terrell, who went on to be the leading GOP votegetter against Democrat Landrieu. So, I would think the better-known candidate will win the KY nomination in May.The Democrat, Ben Chandler, grandson of the late Albert Benjamin "Happy" Chandler (another former segregationist), will be a formidable candidate.