NUNN ANNOUNCES FOR GOVERNOR! NAMES LT. GUV CANDIDATE

12/16/2002

[Rensselaer]

An add-on: Ernie Fletcher's score with Planned Parenthood Action fund is 0 (zero). So is his score with National Abortion Rights Action League. Both groups include on their scorecard HR 4205, the abortions on military bases bill that RonPaulLives claims Fletcher supported. Like National Right to Life, they agree that Fletcher opposed this measure (hence his perfect 100 score from Right to Life and equally perfect - to our view - 0 score from Planned Parenthood and NARAL.

Fletcher's a good guy. I don't know much about Nunn or Moore, but to say Fletcher isn't conservative is pretty silly, and to say he favors expanding abortion rights is just plain wrong.

[RonPaulLives]

Also worth noting, in light of RonPaulLives' claim that Fletcher supports expanding abortion rights...

I think you are mistaken. Scroll up on this thread, go ahead, and tell me where I said that Fletcher "supports expanding abortion rights." The fact is that I didn't say that. I was getting ready to post comments on how Fletcher is usually pro-life in his votes. I am sorry that his vote on the House version of S.2514 bothers you and you cannot accept it. I am not crazy about his vote on the matter either. But don't take my word for it. Read the entire bill. Go to the Congressional Record for yourself.

And since you are mentioning Fletcher's ratings with groups, I see you accidentally left out these:

1999, National Taxpayers Union: 58 %
2000, Republican Liberty Caucus: 64 %
2000, Citizens Against Government Waste: 67 %
2000, National Education Association: 66 %
2000, Children's Defense Fund: 50 %

2001, Gun Owners of America: 60 %
2001, League of Private Property Voters: 60 %
2001, AIDS Action Council: 40 %

And, yes sir, you are correct when you say there aren't many candidates for whom I feel comfortable voting.

[RonPaulLives]

I am not trying to pick fights with any Fletcher fans. I am just trying to tell people he is not the only candidate, and point out that he is not, BY ANY MEANS, the most conservative in this race.

[EastKyRepublican]

I wouldn't refer to Nunn as an insurgent candidate. He's solid, a veteran legislator of 14 years. Albeit, he's not an anointed Washington-insider candidate, but he will make a fine Governor. The Republicans that I know are independent thinkers and balk at the idea of having a candidate forced upon them. Having McConnell's anointing hasn't helped Fletcher any, in fact it's turned several people off that I'd previously asked to be for Nunn. They're now for him because of McConnell's meddling. McConnell is out of touch and is bordering on the absurd.

[EastKyRepublican]

Well, one would think that this 'stuff' is in the Congressional Record, which is easily searchable for someone not led around by the nose (by the McConnell propaganda machine). Look at the facts, not at ratings and you'll see this votes WERE IN FACT cast and that Fletcher is not the squeaky clean conservative you'd make him out to be.

[EastKyRepublican]

There are two types of Republicans. 1) Independent Republicans, 2) RINO's who back McConnell and the cadre of the McConnell Youth Movement.

[EastKyRepublican]

Fletcher: What do I want to be today?

In his mind: A Doctor? An Engineer? A Preacher? A Businessman? A Community-Activist? A State Representative? A Congressman? Governor? The President? The Pope? The Dali Lama? Mayor? Teacher? Philosopher? Nurse-maid to a child (who's running for Lt. Gov.)? What do I want...what do I want...maybe I'll let my wife tell me, like she does everyday.

SARCASM(THICK)......Give me a break. Fletcher is a flim-flam candidate.

[Theodore R.]

If McConnell is so out of touch, why did he cream the daughter of the former liberal Gov. Bert T. Combs last month? MCConnell has been the strongest GOP votegetter in KY since the days of his mentor, John Sherman Cooper. And he is much more conservative than Cooper was. Cooper in fact was a leading appeaser of the communists in Southeast Asia.

[Theodore R.]

Is it possible that the Democrat -- Chandler?? -- will win because of GOP infighting for the nomination?

[EastKyRepublican]

Because he has an unholy alliance with Paul Patton and crew. Remember: Charlie Owens, a moderate/conservative Democrat was going to run against McConnell until Patton publicly gave him a political slap in the face at the Fancy Farm Picnic and endorsed Weinberg, without even giving Owens a heads-up that he was going to do it. Owens was on stage, Weinberg and Patton were on stage at the event and it caused a major problem. McConnell sells out Republicans he can't lord over and control like a puppetmaster. As far as his conservatism, I'd direct you to his pandering (like Cooper) to the Red Chinese. His wife, Elaine Chao, is close to high ranking members of the Communist Politburo in China. Just do a thread here on FR and you'll see what I'm saying is true.

[EastKyRepublican]

I support independent-thinking, conservative Republicans. Fletcher doesn't make the cut. We have the chance to elect a GOP Governor, but they need to be an independent thinker and not have McConnell with his hand up their back like a puppetmaster.

[ACAC]

KY Republicans should be grateful for McConnell. He has built the state party to where it is today. Without him, the GOP would have nothing in the state.

[JohnnyZ]

There was an online poll about who the GOP should nominate. 39% said Fletcher and 13% said "whoever McConnell says can run". That's 52%, he's got the nomination sown up!

BTW, Rebecca Jackson was 2nd with ~27%.

[RonPaulLives]

Wasn't that a poll by the FAR-LEFT LEO Magazine ??

[Rensselaer]

There are two types of Republicans. 1) Independent Republicans, 2) RINO's who back McConnell and the cadre of the McConnell Youth Movement.

McConnell the RINO. LOL. That's the funniest post I've seen in ages!

[JohnnyZ]

I dunno, but it was on the internet so it should be accurate.

[EastKyRepublican]

The rank and file GOP voters are what make the KY GOP stronger over the last decade, not one man. Once again the cult of personality (remember that from Soviet History) marches on....

[ACAC]

This same grassroots support for conservatives and Republicans exist in Lousiana but the GOP is much weaker there because they do not have an effective leader in that state. McConnell is a leader.

[the irate magistrate]

How long have you worked for the meddling opportunist, McConnell?

[Theodore R.]

Also, remember, McConnell essentially forbade the Republicans from running a slate for statewide offices in 1999. Therefore, most of the Patton Democrats ran WITHOUT Republican nomination. Patton himself had a nominal Repubican opponent who did not even carry the GOP geographical strongholds. Still, McConnell is more conservative than the large majority of GOP senators, including Frist.